Judge claims 2nd US civil War if Obama is re-elected

[Poorisolation]

No, it isn't. It's crazy for you, and crazy does not have a political affiliation.

But it does seem to have an odd affiliation to the right.

Righty tighty lefty loosey?

[Unilisia]

Civil War isn't something to joke about my friend.
That was the deadliest war in US history, and it could very well happen again.

Any part of the United States rebels against the government, if things have gotten that bad, the government just reminds said rebellious territory that it has nuclear submarines fully capable of destroying any rebel groups. They'd be stupid not to back down.

But that's not going to happen anytime soon so...

[Nachfolgia]

Civil War isn't something to joke about my friend.
That was the deadliest war in US history, and it could very well happen again.

Do you seriously believe the bolded? What gives you reason to think that neighbours would take arms up against each other in another massive bloody conflict (that would never happen, and likely couldn't even happen).

if they are desperate enough. just as an example if there are not enough resources to go around, neighbours will kill each other to survive. survival is a very powerful instinct.

[Nachfolgia]

Civil War isn't something to joke about my friend.
That was the deadliest war in US history, and it could very well happen again.

Any part of the United States rebels against the government, if things have gotten that bad, the government just reminds said rebellious territory that it has nuclear submarines fully capable of destroying any rebel groups. They'd be stupid not to back down.

But that's not going to happen anytime soon so...

do you really think the government will nuke their own country?

[Serrland]

Any part of the United States rebels against the government, if things have gotten that bad, the government just reminds said rebellious territory that it has nuclear submarines fully capable of destroying any rebel groups. They'd be stupid not to back down.

But that's not going to happen anytime soon so...

do you really think the government will nuke their own country?

"Do you really think the Government will level, burn, and pillage their own countryside?" - Residents of Georgia circa November/December 1864.

[Poorisolation]

do you really think the government will nuke their own country?

"Do you really think the Government will level, burn, and pillage their own countryside?" - Residents of Georgia circa November/December 1864.

Actually the destruction of property was far more selective than that and was primarily concentrated on war making and duel use (in modern parlance) industries. After Sherman had passed the civilian infrastructure was surprisingly unlevelled.

[Nachfolgia]

do you really think the government will nuke their own country?

"Do you really think the Government will level, burn, and pillage their own countryside?" - Residents of Georgia circa November/December 1864.

*nods* good point

[Poorisolation]

"Do you really think the Government will level, burn, and pillage their own countryside?" - Residents of Georgia circa November/December 1864.

*nods* good point

Not even remotely. Not only did the Union forces have a policy ( and yes I agree that policy was not always followed) on focusing primarily on removing the means of making war from a community and not one of burning down every house within sight but there is a big difference from the tactic they employed and the use of weapons of mass destruction.

Do recall one of the things that the oh so sane Judge objects to is America's adherence to a number of international treaties, conventions and organisations. Among those conventions is a body of international law that not merely forbids the use of weapons of mass destruction but also the indiscriminate targeting of civilians. Obama is evil precisely because he agrees to being bound in this sort of way.

Not merely would it be unlawful by both US and International Law but it would also be completely unnecessary. No matter how many NRA approved goodies your hypothetical nutjob militia possessed the saner members of the NRA and especially veteran ones are likely to tell you it will not do the slightest bit of good in the face of the three As. Without Artillery, Armour and Air Power this fictive nutjob militia would lack the resources to prevent US Government forces from going where they wanted and occupying whichever territory they desired and holding it.

In the end and probably right from the beginning the nutjob army would be reduced to at worst a slightly more intense form of the kind domestic terrorism already practised in the US by right wing fringe groups. Whether they would be any more successful at raising it to a pitch at which it would make the headline news as something distinct from the latest spree killing is another matter entirely.

[Serrland]

*nods* good point

Not even remotely. Not only did the Union forces have a policy ( and yes I agree that policy was not always followed) on focusing primarily on removing the means of making war from a community and not one of burning down every house within sight but there is a big difference from the tactic they employed and the use of weapons of mass destruction.

Do recall one of the things that the oh so sane Judge objects to is America's adherence to a number of international treaties, conventions and organisations. Among those conventions is a body of international law that not merely forbids the use of weapons of mass destruction but also the indiscriminate targeting of civilians. Obama is evil precisely because he agrees to being bound in this sort of way.

Not merely would it be unlawful by both US and International Law but it would also be completely unnecessary. No matter how many NRA approved goodies your hypothetical nutjob militia possessed the saner members of the NRA and especially veteran ones are likely to tell you it will not do the slightest bit of good in the face of the three As. Without Artillery, Armour and Air Power this fictive nutjob militia would lack the resources to prevent US Government forces from going where they wanted and occupying whichever territory they desired and holding it.

In the end and probably right from the beginning the nutjob army would be reduced to at worst a slightly more intense form of the kind domestic terrorism already practised in the US by right wing fringe groups. Whether they would be any more successful at raising it to a pitch at which it would make the headline news as something distinct from the latest spree killing is another matter entirely.

facetious comment was facetious.

[Poorisolation]

Not even remotely. Not only did the Union forces have a policy ( and yes I agree that policy was not always followed) on focusing primarily on removing the means of making war from a community and not one of burning down every house within sight but there is a big difference from the tactic they employed and the use of weapons of mass destruction.

Do recall one of the things that the oh so sane Judge objects to is America's adherence to a number of international treaties, conventions and organisations. Among those conventions is a body of international law that not merely forbids the use of weapons of mass destruction but also the indiscriminate targeting of civilians. Obama is evil precisely because he agrees to being bound in this sort of way.

Not merely would it be unlawful by both US and International Law but it would also be completely unnecessary. No matter how many NRA approved goodies your hypothetical nutjob militia possessed the saner members of the NRA and especially veteran ones are likely to tell you it will not do the slightest bit of good in the face of the three As. Without Artillery, Armour and Air Power this fictive nutjob militia would lack the resources to prevent US Government forces from going where they wanted and occupying whichever territory they desired and holding it.

In the end and probably right from the beginning the nutjob army would be reduced to at worst a slightly more intense form of the kind domestic terrorism already practised in the US by right wing fringe groups. Whether they would be any more successful at raising it to a pitch at which it would make the headline news as something distinct from the latest spree killing is another matter entirely.

facetious comment was facetious.

Ah humour detection gear was inoperative

[Death Metal]

If Texas revolted against the US every time they threatened to, we'd have more civil wars than presidents.

[Serrland]

facetious comment was facetious.

Ah humour detection gear was inoperative

No worries! I should have done a wink smiley after it.

[Serrland]

If Texas revolted against the US every time they threatened to, we'd have more civil wars than presidents.

Has Texas ever threatened to revolt (postbellum), or was it rather Texans? Big difference there.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

No, it isn't. It's crazy for you, and crazy does not have a political affiliation.

But it does seem to have an odd affiliation to the right.

I'll fully admit that while there are crazy people in both parties, it's in the GOP that they manage to reach the most influential positions.

[4years]

Any part of the United States rebels against the government, if things have gotten that bad, the government just reminds said rebellious territory that it has nuclear submarines fully capable of destroying any rebel groups. They'd be stupid not to back down.

But that's not going to happen anytime soon so...

do you really think the government will nuke their own country?

No, but rebel groups would back down when they remebered that the goverment that they hate/fear enough to try to otherthrow is capable of reducing their state's population to zero.

[4years]

Perhaps, but as it stands, we don't have the numbers. Hopefully, as people become more educated about the cause, our numbers will rise. This doesn't change the fact that the Democrats are the main party of the "left" and are center to center-right in reality.

Indeed? The Communists and Socialists have been trying to educate the American people for the better part of a century and I daresay your numbers have never risen much. I cannot but think that you're doing something wrong.

We know. The problem is that the average American hears so much right-ring rubbish that he/she believes the USSR was an example of what we are trying to do. It is not.

[Farnhamia]

Indeed? The Communists and Socialists have been trying to educate the American people for the better part of a century and I daresay your numbers have never risen much. I cannot but think that you're doing something wrong.

We know. The problem is that the average American hears so much right-ring rubbish that he/she believes the USSR was an example of what we are trying to do. It is not.

And again, if you can't get past that, you're doing something wrong. It could be something as simple as changing the name of the party.

[Vazeckta]

The only way mass violence will come from the election is if idiots keep calling for civil wars when they don't get what they want.

It's democracy for pete's sake, if the majority of people disagree with you, suck it up. You're the minority, you lost. Get over and convince more people you're right and win the next election.

[Unilisia]

Any part of the United States rebels against the government, if things have gotten that bad, the government just reminds said rebellious territory that it has nuclear submarines fully capable of destroying any rebel groups. They'd be stupid not to back down.

But that's not going to happen anytime soon so...

do you really think the government will nuke their own country?

It would make for an amazing example of what happens when you rebel. I'm not saying they would at first hint of violence, but anyone trying to fight the government needs to remember the American military can crush them.

[Freedom of United Trevor]

We'll have to see in November on the 6th

[HRH]

Ah America - we can always trust you to keep throwing up people like this for the rest of the world to laugh at...

[The De Danann Nation]

Although I think the guy might be nutty,he shouldn't be booted out of office just for his opinions.Why does this always happen?The Republicans and Democrats always go at each other when they get the chance.The Republicans went at the Democrats for the whole Bill Clinton affair.The Democrats go at the Republicans over Rush Limbaugh and the Sandra Fluke incident.Now this.

[Gauthier]

Although I think the guy might be nutty,he shouldn't be booted out of office just for his opinions.Why does this always happen?The Republicans and Democrats always go at each other when they get the chance.The Republicans went at the Democrats for the whole Bill Clinton affair.The Democrats go at the Republicans over Rush Limbaugh and the Sandra Fluke incident.Now this.

Joe Arpaio is Arizona Sheriff and he blew millions of Arizona's dollars trying to find proof Obama is really a Kenyan Muslim. Stupidity comes with collateral damage.

[Moutere]

I really can't believe that you guys actually have a public vote for your judges.
How exactly is that suppose to give a judiciary that isn't political in nature?

[Gauthier]

I really can't believe that you guys actually have a public vote for your judges.
How exactly is that suppose to give a judiciary that isn't political in nature?

Welcome to Texas.