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Postby Jewcrew » Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:03 pm

Samuraikoku wrote:
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Rednecks are drunks not orks.


Same thing. They can't do without their guns. ('cause we'z da shootiest and killiest!")


I know a lesbian with an IQ of around 150-160 that is rather proud to be a redneck.
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Postby Everbeek » Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:06 pm

The Joseon Dynasty wrote:I think America would win.

I think you would find everyone would lose.

I know a lesbian with an IQ of around 150-160 that is rather proud to be a redneck.
Internet test IQ? Seems rather high and unspecific to be real.
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Postby Samuraikoku » Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:07 pm

Jewcrew wrote:I know a lesbian with an IQ of around 150-160 that is rather proud to be a redneck.


Being compared to the Orks isn't that bad. They're funny. :p

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Postby Samuraikoku » Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:08 pm

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Dese'r Orks, ya runty little wimp! :p

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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:09 pm

Trotskylvania wrote:Any second civil war would not be a replay of the first.

Pretty much this. The issues are not the same.
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Postby Seperates » Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:14 pm

It wouldn't happen. Army is made up of volunteers, who value are taught to country over state.
There wouldn't be a split in the armed forces... and most people are more ready to associate themselves with their country rather than their state.

Times have changed.
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Postby Jewcrew » Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:16 pm

Everbeek wrote:
The Joseon Dynasty wrote:I think America would win.

I think you would find everyone would lose.

I know a lesbian with an IQ of around 150-160 that is rather proud to be a redneck.
Internet test IQ? Seems rather high and unspecific to be real.


Psychological test IQ, administered by a psychiatrist. The problem is that they don't give you specifics anymore when you get them done. When I got mine, I was told, "well above average to near genius".

Another problem is that your IQ changes every year. Average IQ is 100. So when average intelligence increases, authorities set the average score as 100. A person with average intelligence 100 years ago would have an IQ much lower if he were transported to today, due to the increase in general knowledge.
Zionism is the only path to peace. Masada will never fall again.

“Nobody does Israel any service by proclaiming its 'right to exist.'

Israel's right to exist, like that of the United States, Saudi Arabia and 152 other states, is axiomatic and unreserved. Israel's legitimacy is not suspended in midair awaiting acknowledgement....

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Postby The Joseon Dynasty » Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:31 pm

Jewcrew wrote:
Everbeek wrote:I think you would find everyone would lose.

Internet test IQ? Seems rather high and unspecific to be real.


Psychological test IQ, administered by a psychiatrist. The problem is that they don't give you specifics anymore when you get them done. When I got mine, I was told, "well above average to near genius".


Which seems to be everyone's IQ test results.
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Postby San-Silvacian » Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:37 pm

> Starts thread out about civir war.
>IQ tests.

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Postby Shadowlandistan » Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:39 pm

Blazedtown wrote:
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We may not be polarized enough to start a physical war, but we have people within the US living COMPLETELY different lifestyles that are not compatable. For instance, how can states like CA, MA, VT, OR, WA, NY co-govern with states like MS, AL, AK, TX, GA etc.

I would like to see these areas able to pursue their political/policy aspirations without nothing being done, since these areas must agree to pass any meaningful legislation. I would hope it could be done without the use of violence.


I think you overestimate the differences between us. Sure you have a few assholes, but there's always been assholes. The 24 hour news day and the internet just make it seem like there are more of them.


I don't believe that for a second. We all can't just get along when there are such serious issues facing us, and so much at stake. One of the sides will lose horribly, and the other will go power hungry. We need to break up to save ourselves.

We are too culturally diverse, it would be like trying to govern Holland & Iran as the same country, it can't be done.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:40 pm

Shadowlandistan wrote:Personally, I'd like to see the US break up into different nations. We are SUCH a polarized country I don't see how we can keep going like this.


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Postby Shadowlandistan » Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:40 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Shadowlandistan wrote:Personally, I'd like to see the US break up into different nations. We are SUCH a polarized country I don't see how we can keep going like this.


Been reading the Hunger Games?


Nope, just keeping up with policy proposals and cultural differences.
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:41 pm

Shadowlandistan wrote:
Blazedtown wrote:
I think you overestimate the differences between us. Sure you have a few assholes, but there's always been assholes. The 24 hour news day and the internet just make it seem like there are more of them.


I don't believe that for a second. We all can't just get along when there are such serious issues facing us, and so much at stake. One of the sides will lose horribly, and the other will go power hungry. We need to break up to save ourselves.

We are too culturally diverse, it would be like trying to govern Holland & Iran as the same country, it can't be done.

Aren't we doing it now? I don't see Americans segregating themselves into little enclaves.
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Postby Shadowlandistan » Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:53 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Shadowlandistan wrote:
I don't believe that for a second. We all can't just get along when there are such serious issues facing us, and so much at stake. One of the sides will lose horribly, and the other will go power hungry. We need to break up to save ourselves.

We are too culturally diverse, it would be like trying to govern Holland & Iran as the same country, it can't be done.

Aren't we doing it now? I don't see Americans segregating themselves into little enclaves.


I see a lot of that. It doesn't go along with race/gender, i.e. typical lines of seperation, but ideologically people in the US are very different. It's getting to a point where we can't get anything done because we're too large. Smaller countries are more efficient, and the people in those countries get more of what they want.
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Postby Blazedtown » Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:53 pm

Shadowlandistan wrote:
Blazedtown wrote:
I think you overestimate the differences between us. Sure you have a few assholes, but there's always been assholes. The 24 hour news day and the internet just make it seem like there are more of them.


I don't believe that for a second. We all can't just get along when there are such serious issues facing us, and so much at stake. One of the sides will lose horribly, and the other will go power hungry. We need to break up to save ourselves.

We are too culturally diverse, it would be like trying to govern Holland & Iran as the same country, it can't be done.


:roll:

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Postby Democratic Koyro » Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:56 pm

There will be no such war.
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Postby Dorifuta » Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:58 pm

Shadowlandistan wrote:
Blazedtown wrote:
I think you overestimate the differences between us. Sure you have a few assholes, but there's always been assholes. The 24 hour news day and the internet just make it seem like there are more of them.


I don't believe that for a second. We all can't just get along when there are such serious issues facing us, and so much at stake. One of the sides will lose horribly, and the other will go power hungry. We need to break up to save ourselves.

We are too culturally diverse, it would be like trying to govern Holland & Iran as the same country, it can't be done.


Because issues like gay-marriage have nation shattering stakes :roll:
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Postby Blazedtown » Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:01 pm

Dorifuta wrote:
Shadowlandistan wrote:
I don't believe that for a second. We all can't just get along when there are such serious issues facing us, and so much at stake. One of the sides will lose horribly, and the other will go power hungry. We need to break up to save ourselves.

We are too culturally diverse, it would be like trying to govern Holland & Iran as the same country, it can't be done.


Because issues like gay-marriage have nation shattering stakes :roll:


Clearly. Gays getting married will result in the total collapse of American civilization and mass rape of apple pie by gay abortion performing bears.
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:30 pm

Blazedtown wrote:
Shadowlandistan wrote:
I don't believe that for a second. We all can't just get along when there are such serious issues facing us, and so much at stake. One of the sides will lose horribly, and the other will go power hungry. We need to break up to save ourselves.

We are too culturally diverse, it would be like trying to govern Holland & Iran as the same country, it can't be done.


:roll:

You probably haven't left your home state have you?

Probably hasn't left the county.
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Postby Arborlawn » Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:51 pm

Honestly, a Second American Civil War is going to end up in massive guerrilla warfare between liberals and conservative partisans joining in communion. There will be quarters occupied by either political force, with a few "Independent quarters" who will most likely be extorted by both partisans.

There is not going to be any countries defined along state lines. It is going to be major internal warfare.
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Postby Vazeckta » Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:57 pm

Somehow I doubt the old CSA working, considering some of those states are very different from others. And even if all eleven rose up, they'd lose pretty fast. Plus, who would fight for them? All the soldiers stationed there are American, and would face treason if they fought.

If there is another American civil war, it won't be clean cut state lines fighting, it will be neighbors, liberal vs. conservative or something. Guerrilla, very unorganized. Not a split, but a total dissolution. And then of course we are taken by our Chinese overlords.
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Postby Spritalia » Mon Aug 20, 2012 6:00 pm

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Because issues like gay-marriage have nation shattering stakes :roll:


Clearly. Gays getting married will result in the total collapse of American civilization and mass rape of apple pie by gay abortion performing bears.


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Postby Luketopia » Mon Aug 20, 2012 6:01 pm

Samuraikoku wrote:South: "We’ve got our weapons. Wot ain't we got? We ain’t got anyfing for target practice iz wot! So I'll tell you wot we're gonna do. We’re gonna give da Yankeez a taste of ‘ot metal death is wot. We’s gonna take da boyz wit' da shootas ‘ere an’ we’s gonna stomp Yankee! WAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!"

North: "Soldiers of America! Today, we stand as a bulwark against the selfish, the soulless, and the mad! Today, we must drive back our enemies from our land and from our world! Today, more than ever before, we fight for the Greater Good! And we will triumph!"



You're racial stereotyping of the South is just plain bigotry and sickening.
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Postby Spritalia » Mon Aug 20, 2012 6:03 pm

Luketopia wrote:
Samuraikoku wrote:South: "We’ve got our weapons. Wot ain't we got? We ain’t got anyfing for target practice iz wot! So I'll tell you wot we're gonna do. We’re gonna give da Yankeez a taste of ‘ot metal death is wot. We’s gonna take da boyz wit' da shootas ‘ere an’ we’s gonna stomp Yankee! WAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!"

North: "Soldiers of America! Today, we stand as a bulwark against the selfish, the soulless, and the mad! Today, we must drive back our enemies from our land and from our world! Today, more than ever before, we fight for the Greater Good! And we will triumph!"



You're racial stereotyping of the South is just plain bigotry and sickening.


Not to intrude, but I believe this person was providing a "joke", sir.
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Aug 20, 2012 6:05 pm

Spritalia wrote:
Luketopia wrote:

You're racial stereotyping of the South is just plain bigotry and sickening.


Not to intrude, but I believe this person was providing a "joke", sir.

I find it odd, don't you, how little sense of humor some people have.
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