Republican Newsletter Calls For "Armed Revolution"

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Yours are just totally out of touch with reality, and far more numerous.

No true Scotsman, right?

"We don't have any extremists!"

"Really? What about Fred Phelps?"

"Um...He's not a TRUE Democrat."

Extremists in your party believes black people can only get lower grades, that's why they made affirmative action. Your party treats poor minorities like pets and not responsible adults who can lead successful lives.

I'm not sure that No True Scotsman applies. I mean, I could call myself a Republican despite the fact that my economic outlook leans towards socialism, and my social outlook is libertarian in nature. Others would say that I wasn't a true Republican, and you know what? They'd be right. Similarly, I haven't seen a single idea or thought expressed by Phelps or his followers that is in any way in line with the positions generally held by the Democratic Party.

[Revolutopia]

No true Scotsman, right?

"We don't have any extremists!"

"Really? What about Fred Phelps?"

"Um...He's not a TRUE Democrat."

Extremists in your party believes black people can only get lower grades, that's why they made affirmative action. Your party treats poor minorities like pets and not responsible adults who can lead successful lives.

I'm not sure that No True Scotsman applies. I mean, I could call myself a Republican despite the fact that my economic outlook leans towards socialism, and my social outlook is libertarian in nature. Others would say that I wasn't a true Republican, and you know what? They'd be right. Similarly, I haven't seen a single idea or thought expressed by Phelps or his followers that is in any way in line with the positions generally held by the Democratic Party.

TMI just gets a kick out of namechecking fallacies hoping others will not know what they mean so he can declare victory.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

TMI just gets a kick out of namechecking fallacies hoping others will not know what they mean so he can declare victory.

Freshman critical thinking class syndrome. Got it.

[Wikkiwallana]

In any case, the Greene County GOP was justified in (initially) not releasing any condemnation. Should a local Democratic Party release such a condemnation if one idiot writes about class revolution according to Conflict theory sociology?

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The Chairman of a county is not representative of the nation as a whole.

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[Wikkiwallana]

US Constitution, Article III, Section 3:

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court. The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attained.

The newsletter could be used as evidence of intent to commit treason, and possibly also an overt act of preparation to levy war against the United States. So hypothetically this newsletter is treasonous, but I'm not certain it would be found as such. The two witnesses are not necessary to prove intent or a treasonable nature of the act, they are only needed to prove the act occurred.

Technically, the statement wasn't treason.

Rather, it was sedition.

Wow, I ninja'd ASB.
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[Maurepas]

They've been calling for "Armed Revolution" ever since they lost the war. It'll pass.

[Individualist Constructivism]

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The Chairman of a county is not representative of the nation as a whole.

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Contrarily, the action of any GOP organization is against condemning and legitimizing something that is not representative of their true policy objectives, Chairman irrespective.

[Individualist Constructivism]

I'm not sure that No True Scotsman applies. I mean, I could call myself a Republican despite the fact that my economic outlook leans towards socialism, and my social outlook is libertarian in nature. Others would say that I wasn't a true Republican, and you know what? They'd be right. Similarly, I haven't seen a single idea or thought expressed by Phelps or his followers that is in any way in line with the positions generally held by the Democratic Party.

TMI just gets a kick out of namechecking fallacies hoping others will not know what they mean so he can declare victory.

Most of NSG does this, who are we kidding?

[Wamitoria]

TMI just gets a kick out of namechecking fallacies hoping others will not know what they mean so he can declare victory.

Most of NSG does this, who are we kidding?

Actually, we've gotten a lot better about it over the years.

[Individualist Constructivism]

Most of NSG does this, who are we kidding?

Actually, we've gotten a lot better about it over the years.

Better than nothing, one must suppose.

[Jinos]

On my last trip there.

"Wow, there are A LOT of Black people here..."

[Wikkiwallana]

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Contrarily, the action of any GOP organization is against condemning and legitimizing something that is not representative of their true policy objectives, Chairman irrespective.

Boy, when you say something is contrary, you don't kid around.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

On my last trip there.

"Wow, there are A LOT of Black people here..."

It's true. I've been in Colorado more than three months, and have seen four blacks. And they w're all tourists.

I guess they're all back in the South because... well, you know.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Most of NSG does this, who are we kidding?

Actually, we've gotten a lot better about it over the years.

No we haven't, your argument is an obvious No True Strawman's Razor Law, so just give it up.

[Farnhamia]

On my last trip there.

"Wow, there are A LOT of Black people here..."

It's true. I've been in Colorado more than three months, and have seen four blacks. And they w're all tourists.

I guess they're all back in the South because... well, you know.

4% of the state is African-American. You probably won't see many black people outside of Denver or Boulder or the Springs.

[Inky Noodles]

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I'm coming?

[Prussia-Steinbach]

It's true. I've been in Colorado more than three months, and have seen four blacks. And they w're all tourists.

I guess they're all back in the South because... well, you know.

4% of the state is African-American. You probably won't see many black people outside of Denver or Boulder or the Springs.

Wow. What is it in Virginia, 40%?

Yes, I came here once before moving here. For a week. I saw one black person, in Denver.

I live in a SW CO tourist town, and I haven't met or seen anyone except whites that live here. Every non-white is just passing through. It's weird. Makes me wonder why there aren't a ton of white supremacists out here.

[Antoniland]

Conservatives advocating the use of violence to achieve their ends. What else is new?

[Inky Noodles]

Conservatives advocating the use of violence to achieve their ends. What else is new?

[The Mongol Ilkhanate]

I'm not sure that No True Scotsman applies. I mean, I could call myself a Republican despite the fact that my economic outlook leans towards socialism, and my social outlook is libertarian in nature. Others would say that I wasn't a true Republican, and you know what? They'd be right. Similarly, I haven't seen a single idea or thought expressed by Phelps or his followers that is in any way in line with the positions generally held by the Democratic Party.

TMI just gets a kick out of namechecking fallacies hoping others will not know what they mean so he can declare victory.

It helps if you spell them right, but I lack the time for orthographical quibbling.

The fact is, we can play the extremist game all day long. You find a Republican extremist, I can find a worse Democrat extremist. This gets even better if we expand it to "Capitalist" vs "Socialist". Chairman Mao, 70 million body count. Thus, looking at moron extremists to try and discredit Republicans, is a waste of time, because all I need to do is point out Stalin+Mao's 90+ million body count.

[The Mongol Ilkhanate]

Conservatives advocating the use of violence to achieve their ends. What else is new?

You've never heard of the Weather Underground, have you? No? How about Mao's Great Leap Forward? Stalin's Purges? Pol Pot? Robespierre's Reign of Terror? Don't pretend like your ideology is squeaky clean.

[Quebec and Atlantic Canada]

TMI just gets a kick out of namechecking fallacies hoping others will not know what they mean so he can declare victory.

It helps if you spell them right, but I lack the time for orthographical quibbling.

The fact is, we can play the extremist game all day long. You find a Republican extremist, I can find a worse Democrat extremist. This gets even better if we expand it to "Capitalist" vs "Socialist". Chairman Mao, 70 million body count. Thus, looking at moron extremists to try and discredit Republicans, is a waste of time, because all I need to do is point out Stalin+Mao's 90+ million body count.

Yeah, no. Body count is not directly proportional to evil level. As I posted in the "Hitler vs. Stalin" thread...

You can't measure someone's evil by body count alone. You need to look at the reasons for that body count too. This is why I consider Hitler to be far worse than Stalin- because, unlike Stalin, who created his body count through paranoia, Hitler knowingly and deliberately made it his goal to exterminate an entire race simply for existing. In essence, even if a hypothetical Jew followed every single law of Nazi Germany to the letter, singing Hitler's praises 20 times a day, gleefully hunting down anti-Nazis with a bloodthirstiness that would scare the Gestapo, etc etc, he would still get thrown in a concentration camp just because he was Jewish. Obviously this hypothetical Jew never existed, but in any case, he certainly would have survived in Stalin's USSR if he was a model Stalinist, singing Stalin's praises 20 times a day, and gleefully hunting down anti-Stalinists with a bloodthirstiness that would scare the NKVD.

Conservatives advocating the use of violence to achieve their ends. What else is new?

You've never heard of the Weather Underground, have you? No? How about Mao's Great Leap Forward? Stalin's Purges? Pol Pot? Robespierre's Reign of Terror? Don't pretend like your ideology is squeaky clean.

A pathetic tu quoque fallacy? Why am I not surprised?

[The Mongol Ilkhanate]

Tu quoque means I'm attempting to show your claim false as you yourself are guilty of the condemned behavior. For example, an alcoholic says "drinking is bad", the tu-quoque response would be "It can't be, or else why would you do it?". It is an attempt to discredit through pointing out hypocrisy. Rather, I don't disagree with the conclusion, but I point out that while we may have a mote in our eye, the Socialists have a beam in their eye.

Anyway, yes, you can measure evil by body count. A soldier who kills 200 enemy pilots in war over the course of his career is not a bad man. The man who stabs two innocent people premeditated is a bad man. There are not varying degrees, there are two. Justified, and unjustified killings. (BTW, Stalin killed Ukrainians just because they were. Anyone who tried to leave Ukraine during the famine was subsequently repatriated). Though, if you include WW2 in Hitler's count, he's worse.

[Maurepas]

Conservatives advocating the use of violence to achieve their ends. What else is new?

You've never heard of the Weather Underground, have you? No? How about Mao's Great Leap Forward? Stalin's Purges? Pol Pot? Robespierre's Reign of Terror? Don't pretend like your ideology is squeaky clean.

None of those were perpetuated by Progressives in the United States.

[Cenetra]

4% of the state is African-American. You probably won't see many black people outside of Denver or Boulder or the Springs.

Wow. What is it in Virginia, 40%?

Yes, I came here once before moving here. For a week. I saw one black person, in Denver.

I live in a SW CO tourist town, and I haven't met or seen anyone except whites that live here. Every non-white is just passing through. It's weird. Makes me wonder why there aren't a ton of white supremacists out here.

Hmm

Eight of the ten states with the largest african-american populations (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U. ... population) are notorious for being full of white supremacists. On the other hand, West Virginia and Utah have very low african-american populations, and Oklahoma and Kentucky are right in the middle.

I'm going to guess that the prevalence of racism in a state is independent of its minority population.

There are probably a whole lot of really complex historical factors affecting things as well.