Republican Newsletter Calls For "Armed Revolution"

[Moving Forward Inc]

the newsletter claims President Obama "shuns biblical praise,"

So this is all about how these republicans want their silly morals imposed on us all? Let them come. It's Bigot killing season!

[Norstal]

So this is all about how these republicans want their silly morals imposed on us all? Let them come. It's Bigot killing season!

Be vewy vewy quiet, I'm hwunting bigots!

[Transhuman Proteus]

Their bark is much worse than their bite.

Indeed. At least last time they were polite enough to keep quite until after the election.

[Moving Forward Inc]

So this is all about how these republicans want their silly morals imposed on us all? Let them come. It's Bigot killing season!

Be vewy vewy quiet, I'm hwunting bigots!

If you capture some, you could try breeding them, hopefully they don't turn out to be homosexual!

[Wikkiwallana]

It's Bigot killing season!

Not helping your case here.

[Azerzia]

You are too much of a caricature to be a real person.

Holy crap I nearly pissed myself. (::) cookie for you

[Moving Forward Inc]

It's Bigot killing season!

Not helping your case here.

So what, if bigots take over America by force and do unconstitutional things you'll do nothing?
You sir, lack bravery.

[Jinckus]

2.) The right to bear arms is a right, not a privilege, thus cannot be simply voted away.

Actually, it can. Please review the procedure for constitutional amendment. You are somewhat right, in that there cannot be a direct vote by the people, but there can be a vote.

It is one of the original 10 rights provided by the Constitution.

Actually, it was not originally in the Constitution at all.

You are correct on both counts. However, if the Bill of Rights wasn't added to the Constitution, the Constitution would never of passed in the first place.

As for the Constitutional Amendment; It's considered an unalienable right, meaning that the only one who can take it away is God (or if you're an atheist, freak accidents that destroy the ability to use a gun.)

[The Mongol Ilkhanate]

...if President Obama is re-elected.

Here's the relevant text as reported by PoliticsUSA:

President Obama, is a “political socialist ideologue unlike anything world history has ever witnessed or recognized,” and that the only option is “armed revolution should we fail with the power of the vote in November:” If one is confused as to what Republicans consider is a “political socialist ideologue,” the newsletter claims President Obama “shuns biblical praise, handicaps economic ability, disrespects the honor of earned military might,” and that under Obama, “the government is out of control, and this opportunity, must not be forsaken for we shall not have any coarse (sic) but armed revolution.”

And a Democrat is the leader of the Westboro BaptistCchurch, and Islamists ran planes into towers. Just because they have an (R), next to their name, doesn't reflect on the rest of us.

[Jewcrew]

...if President Obama is re-elected.

Here's the relevant text as reported by PoliticsUSA:

And a Democrat is the leader of the Westboro BaptistCchurch, and Islamists ran planes into towers. Just because they have an (R), next to their name, doesn't reflect on the rest of us.

Holy crap, you're right!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Phelp ... atic_Party

[The Ilk]

Actually, it can. Please review the procedure for constitutional amendment. You are somewhat right, in that there cannot be a direct vote by the people, but there can be a vote.

Actually, it was not originally in the Constitution at all.

You are correct on both counts. However, if the Bill of Rights wasn't added to the Constitution, the Constitution would never of passed in the first place...

Umm... They were not included untill later, and it did get "passed" without them.

[Gauthier]

...if President Obama is re-elected.

Here's the relevant text as reported by PoliticsUSA:

And a Democrat is the leader of the Westboro BaptistCchurch, and Islamists ran planes into towers. Just because they have an (R), next to their name, doesn't reflect on the rest of us.

It's rather convenient to come up with that rationalization when you're on the other end for a change isn't it? Don't recall anyone saying that post 9/11 or even bothering to tell the difference between Sikhs and Muslims.

[Jewcrew]

And a Democrat is the leader of the Westboro BaptistCchurch, and Islamists ran planes into towers. Just because they have an (R), next to their name, doesn't reflect on the rest of us.

It's rather convenient to come up with that rationalization when you're on the other end for a change isn't it? Don't recall anyone saying that post 9/11 or even bothering to tell the difference between Sikhs and Muslims.

You don't recall anyone saying that post 9/11??? Were you in a hole?

[Transhuman Proteus]

Not helping your case here.

So what, if bigots take over America by force and do unconstitutional things you'll do nothing?
You sir, lack bravery.

Bigots are a lot like pufferfish - their movements are a lot more bluster than actual size (1 million moms doesn't have 1 million moms, WBC is a hand full of rabble rowsers, a lot of the patriotic militias are fat, middle aged guys with more guns then brains etc).

It's important to oppose them democratically at every opportunity, but they really aren't going to be taking over the US and wrecking the constitution. If they managed that it would be quite surprising.

[Saluterre]

And a Democrat is the leader of the Westboro BaptistCchurch, and Islamists ran planes into towers. Just because they have an (R), next to their name, doesn't reflect on the rest of us.

Holy crap, you're right!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Phelp ... atic_Party

Merely a remnant from when the Democrats were the party of the American right; specifically in the South.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dixiecrat

[Transhuman Proteus]

...if President Obama is re-elected.

Here's the relevant text as reported by PoliticsUSA:

And a Democrat is the leader of the Westboro BaptistCchurch, and Islamists ran planes into towers. Just because they have an (R), next to their name, doesn't reflect on the rest of us.

The first one always strikes me as funny when it comes up in situations like this. Of course he's a democrat, it's not like the party represents nearly everything he says the world will burn in hell for while he's out protesting.

That, and the democrats of course were once the more conservative party. Phelps is out of touch, he probably has a pamphlet of their's from 100 years ago.

[Jewcrew]

Holy crap, you're right!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Phelp ... atic_Party

Merely a remnant from when the Democrats were the party of the American right; specifically in the South.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dixiecrat

Because Senator Byrd received high levels of condemnation, right?

Your own ideology is making you blind to the extremists within your own camp. Every group has its extremists. You can't just claim that they aren't a part of your group. They are, they just don't represent you.

[Trotskylvania]

Merely a remnant from when the Democrats were the party of the American right; specifically in the South.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dixiecrat

Because Senator Byrd received high levels of condemnation, right?

Your own ideology is making you blind to the extremists within your own camp. Every group has its extremists. You can't just claim that they aren't a part of your group. They are, they just don't represent you.

Yours are just totally out of touch with reality, and far more numerous.

[Christian Democrats]

Greene County, Virginia . . . 18,403 people.

Who cares what the Republicans there think?

[Jewcrew]

And for the record...

Believing marriage is between a man and a woman does not make you an extremist. Believing that homosexuals should be killed, does.

Believing in capitalism does not make you an extremist. Believing that humans should be able to own other humans, does.

Believing in free speech does not make you an extremist. Believing that white people are somehow superior, does.

Believing in greater controls on the banking system does not make you an extremist. Believing in socialism, does.

That's the inherent problem I seem to run into when I try to discuss things with the left wing. They have no understanding of what an extremist actually is. I find the same thing on the right from time to time, but no where near as often as I find it on the left. It's a big problem in Canada, with the left wing often calling our current Prime Minister an extremist when the most extreme thing he's managed to do so far is increase minimum sentencing for criminals by a few years. Average prison time is still far shorter in Canada than in the USA!

Things that both sides need to remember:
Civil rights and human rights are two different things.
Canada isn't socialist, it's a mixed but market driven economy that currently rates higher than America on the economic freedom index.
Backyard pools kill more people annually than guns.
The first amendment prevents gay people from forcing churches to marry them should gay marriage become legal. In Canada, individual places of worship have final say on who they marry, even on the gay issue.

Edit:

While we're on it, people need to understand there is a difference between socialism and mixed economy.

Socialism means that the economy is primarily controlled or directed by the government, with communism being the extreme case.

Mixed economy means that the economy has a mix of government and private controls.

Capitalism means that the economy is primarily controlled by the free market, with anarcho-capitalism being the extreme case.

Canada has a mixed but market-driven economy. It means that were are a mixed economy, but very close to capitalism.

America used to have a capitalist economy, but has less economic freedom than Canada thanks to the amazingly huge bureaucracy. It is technically a mixed economy, still leaning towards capitalism.

[Saluterre]

Merely a remnant from when the Democrats were the party of the American right; specifically in the South.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dixiecrat

Because Senator Byrd received high levels of condemnation, right?

Your own ideology is making you blind to the extremists within your own camp. Every group has its extremists. You can't just claim that they aren't a part of your group. They are, they just don't represent you.

1. Not a Democrat. I'm a member of the SPUSA, and I support market socialism.
2. I'd hardly say Phelps is in the Democratic "camp." He hasn't been particularly vocal about his economics, but his social views are far beyond even an extremist Republican like Michelle Bachmann, hardly the "party of liberal values" the Democrats claim to be. I wasn't saying he'd represent the Democratic party, and I wasn't denying that he had run for office as a Democrat. I'm pretty sure we're mostly in agreement here, anyway.

Not to mention that Senator Byrd seemed to have changed his politics later in life.

[North Calaveras]

Oh, do tell: what makes you a "true" American?

unless your a native american, youre not a true american. most americans are of french, german, irish, spanish, hispanic, scottish, italian, greep, russian, asian or african in descent.

wrong if your born on United States soil you are indeed as American, ascentery means nothing.

Look at south africa, they have white africans

[Hardened Pyrokinetics]

Believing in greater controls on the banking system does not make you an extremists. Believing in socialism, does.

Even despite your very, very suspect username, you were pretty spot-on until this point.

Socialism is not extremism. Communism is not extremism. Revolutionary communism is. Learn the differences.

[Saluterre]

And for the record...

Believing marriage is between a man and a woman does not make you an extremist. Believing that homosexuals should be killed, does.

There's still no reason to hold this belief that births inequality.

Believing in capitalism does not make you an extremist. Believing that humans should be able to own other humans, does.

Not arguing with that. Most economic systems have their pros and cons.

Believing in greater controls on the banking system does not make you an extremists. Believing in socialism, does.

Depends on the type of socialism. Calling for a change of economic system isn't extremism. A call for violent revolution is.

That's the inherent problem I seem to run into when I try to discuss things with the left wing. They have no understanding of what an extremist actually is. I find the same thing on the right from time to time, but no where near as often as I find it on the left. It's a big problem in Canada, with the left wing often calling our current Prime Minister an extremist when the most extreme thing he's managed to do so far is increase minimum sentencing for criminals by a few years. Average prison time is still far shorter in Canada than in the USA!

In the U.S, there's much more of that on the right, considering how many conservatives consider the centrist that occupies the oval office to be a radical stalinist. Not to mention there's not much in the way of an American "left"...

[Trotskylvania]

Believing in greater controls on the banking system does not make you an extremists. Believing in socialism, does.

Even despite your very, very suspect username, you were pretty spot-on until this point.

Socialism is not extremism. Communism is not extremism. Revolutionary communism is. Learn the differences.

Extremist is not a pejorative. People who are outside of the mainstream of accepted discourse are by definition extremists.