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Postby Wikkiwallana » Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:52 pm

The Theban Legion wrote:
The Calldari State wrote:Registered Democrat and gun owner here.

I say "Let them come." :lol2:


Don't worry bro... The Global Small Arms Ban Treaty will be signed into law immediately after Obama wins his second term. You will be easy pickings and the government will probably not compensate you for your property that they confinscate under the new Global law. This aside, I don't support this stupidity either, just wanted to comment on how both you and I will probably be screwed no matter who gets elected. We'll both be disarmed by violent and ignorant mobs of party partisans.

Please educate yourself.
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I'm a pro-lifer who runs a nation of dragon-men...
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Postby The Jahistic Unified Republic » Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:54 pm

I'm a sane right winger (I know to some of you on NSG, that might be a contradiction.)... I won't think of "revolting" against a fairly elected President unless he drastically curves my rights as guaranteed by the Constitution.

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Postby Jinckus » Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:55 pm

The Jahistic Unified Republic wrote:I'm a sane right winger (I know to some of you on NSG, that might be a contradiction.)... I won't think of "revolting" against a fairly elected President unless he drastically curves my rights as guaranteed by the Constitution.


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Postby Nordengrund » Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:56 pm

I am in favor of a revolution, but a prefer a non- violent revolution. I only believe in a violent one as a last resort.
1 John 1:9

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Postby Wikkiwallana » Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:56 pm

Yewhohohopia wrote:
Aleckandor wrote:
There are several instances where twats actually do make good on their threats.

They're pretty few and far between.

Not few and far between enough.
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Nulono wrote:Snip
I'm a pro-lifer who runs a nation of dragon-men...
And even I think that's stupid.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.

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Postby Wikkiwallana » Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:57 pm

Jewcrew wrote:
Wikkiwallana wrote:He's not the first to say so recently, nor is he likely to be the last.


I've seen people on both the left and the right make such calls.

And?
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Just because these people are stupid, wrong and highly dangerous does not mean you have the right to make them feel sad.
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Nulono wrote:Snip
I'm a pro-lifer who runs a nation of dragon-men...
And even I think that's stupid.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.

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Postby Jewcrew » Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:59 pm

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And that's why I'm Jewish. :D

The more of the Bible I see, the less I want to pay an ounce of attention. I'm an agnostic currently leaning favorably towards Buddhism.


The whole problem with a layman (no insult intended) reading the Torah is that people much wiser than you or I have been arguing over the book for thousands of years.

For instance, while the death penalty seems to be given out rather liberally in Jewish holy books, one can't help but notice a lack of the death penalty in Judaism for thousands of years, despite the extreme levels of religious observance in Judaism up until Enlightenment. This is because it is almost impossible to actually give someone the death penalty in Judaism, requiring the following:
Two witnesses were required. Acceptability was limited to:
Adult Jewish men who were known to keep the commandments, knew the written and oral law, and had legitimate professions;
The witnesses had to see each other at the time of the sin;
The witnesses had to be able to speak clearly, without any speech impediment or hearing deficit (to ensure that the warning and the response were done);
The witnesses could not be related to each other or to the accused.
The witnesses had to see each other, and both of them had to give a warning (hatra'ah) to the person that the sin they were about to commit was a capital offense;
This warning had to be delivered within seconds of the performance of the sin (in the time it took to say, "Peace unto you, my Rabbi and my Master");
In the same amount of time, the person about to sin had to:
Respond that s/he was familiar with the punishment, but they were going to sin anyway; AND
Begin to commit the sin/crime;
The Beth Din had to examine each witness separately; and if even one point of their evidence was contradictory - even if a very minor point, such as eye color - the evidence was considered contradictory and the evidence was not heeded;
The Beth Din had to consist of minimally 23 judges;
The majority could not be a simple majority - the split verdict that would allow conviction had to be at least 13 to 11 in favor of conviction;
If the Beth Din arrived at a unanimous verdict of guilty, the person was let go - the idea being that if no judge could find anything exculpatory about the accused, there was something wrong with the court.
The witnesses were appointed by the court to be the executioners.

Which is part of the reason why the death penalty has only ever been given once in Israel, reserved for Adolf Eichmann, and the moral implications of Adolf Eichmann's execution are still debated to this day.
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:01 pm

Nordengrund wrote:I am in favor of a revolution, but a prefer a non- violent revolution. I only believe in a violent one as a last resort.

What sort of revolution, and why?
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Just because these people are stupid, wrong and highly dangerous does not mean you have the right to make them feel sad.
Xenohumanity wrote:
Nulono wrote:Snip
I'm a pro-lifer who runs a nation of dragon-men...
And even I think that's stupid.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.

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Postby Jewcrew » Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:01 pm

Wikkiwallana wrote:
Jewcrew wrote:
I've seen people on both the left and the right make such calls.

And?


And I think such calls are hardly newsworthy. Both sides make such calls, and such people are fringes. Until people are being rounded up and put into labour camps for their views or genetics, there isn't much to worry about.
Zionism is the only path to peace. Masada will never fall again.

“Nobody does Israel any service by proclaiming its 'right to exist.'

Israel's right to exist, like that of the United States, Saudi Arabia and 152 other states, is axiomatic and unreserved. Israel's legitimacy is not suspended in midair awaiting acknowledgement....

There is certainly no other state, big or small, young or old, that would consider mere recognition of its 'right to exist' a favor, or a negotiable concession.” - former Israeli Foreign Affairs Minister Abba Eben

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Postby Samuraikoku » Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:06 pm

Nordengrund wrote:I am in favor of a revolution, but a prefer a non- violent revolution. I only believe in a violent one as a last resort.


Says someone who in another thread claimed he'd be a fascist dictator.

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Postby Nordengrund » Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:07 pm

Samuraikoku wrote:
Nordengrund wrote:I am in favor of a revolution, but a prefer a non- violent revolution. I only believe in a violent one as a last resort.


Says someone who in another thread claimed he'd be a fascist dictator.


So?
1 John 1:9

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Postby Wikkiwallana » Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:10 pm

Jewcrew wrote:
Wikkiwallana wrote:And?


And I think such calls are hardly newsworthy. Both sides make such calls, and such people are fringes. Until people are being rounded up and put into labour camps for their views or genetics, there isn't much to worry about.

It's never a good idea to take your eyes off the crazies.
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Please don't confuse my country for my politics; my country is being run as a parody, my posts aren't.
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Halt!
Just because these people are stupid, wrong and highly dangerous does not mean you have the right to make them feel sad.
Xenohumanity wrote:
Nulono wrote:Snip
I'm a pro-lifer who runs a nation of dragon-men...
And even I think that's stupid.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.

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Postby Seperates » Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:11 pm

Nordengrund wrote:I am in favor of a revolution, but a prefer a non- violent revolution. I only believe in a violent one as a last resort.

Why do we need a revolution?

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Postby Typhlochactas » Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:15 pm

So this Republican newsletter doesn't like democracy?

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Postby Jewcrew » Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:20 pm

Wikkiwallana wrote:
Jewcrew wrote:
And I think such calls are hardly newsworthy. Both sides make such calls, and such people are fringes. Until people are being rounded up and put into labour camps for their views or genetics, there isn't much to worry about.

It's never a good idea to take your eyes off the crazies.


I've got national socialist groups right here in Winnipeg that I ignore all the time, and so does the media. They haven't made any strides towards becoming mainstream.

Although I have considered 'having a party' with them.
Zionism is the only path to peace. Masada will never fall again.

“Nobody does Israel any service by proclaiming its 'right to exist.'

Israel's right to exist, like that of the United States, Saudi Arabia and 152 other states, is axiomatic and unreserved. Israel's legitimacy is not suspended in midair awaiting acknowledgement....

There is certainly no other state, big or small, young or old, that would consider mere recognition of its 'right to exist' a favor, or a negotiable concession.” - former Israeli Foreign Affairs Minister Abba Eben

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Postby Democratic Koyro » Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:20 pm

Typhlochactas wrote:So this Republican newsletter doesn't like democracy?


Republicans don't like Democracy?

so what else is new?
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Postby Jewcrew » Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:22 pm

Democratic Koyro wrote:
Typhlochactas wrote:So this Republican newsletter doesn't like democracy?


Republicans don't like Democracy?

so what else is new?


Who in their right mind likes democracy?

The second we find something better, I'm jumping on!
Zionism is the only path to peace. Masada will never fall again.

“Nobody does Israel any service by proclaiming its 'right to exist.'

Israel's right to exist, like that of the United States, Saudi Arabia and 152 other states, is axiomatic and unreserved. Israel's legitimacy is not suspended in midair awaiting acknowledgement....

There is certainly no other state, big or small, young or old, that would consider mere recognition of its 'right to exist' a favor, or a negotiable concession.” - former Israeli Foreign Affairs Minister Abba Eben

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Postby Vitius » Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:23 pm

Jewcrew wrote:
Wikkiwallana wrote:It's never a good idea to take your eyes off the crazies.


I've got national socialist groups right here in Winnipeg that I ignore all the time, and so does the media. They haven't made any strides towards becoming mainstream.

Although I have considered 'having a party' with them.

Good lord, Winnipeg. As a Canadian-American, I can fairly compare Sask to the American South. Well, the 'South' of Canada, at least. Maybe Manitoba is a little worse.
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Postby Liriena » Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:30 pm

United States of Republicans wrote:If Obama again

No more Guns

No more 2nd amendment

Taxes raised more

77.8 millions out of work

A liberal/socialist kingdom

FIGHT FOR LIBERTY NOT LIBERALISM FORWARD

Vote Romney/Ryan 2012


Nope. Nice try. :roll:

On the topic at hand: Isn't that sedition and conspiracy to commit a crime? Methinks that somebody has earned himself a call from the FBI.
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Postby Wamitoria » Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:32 pm

Liriena wrote:
United States of Republicans wrote:If Obama again

No more Guns

No more 2nd amendment

Taxes raised more

77.8 millions out of work

A liberal/socialist kingdom

FIGHT FOR LIBERTY NOT LIBERALISM FORWARD

Vote Romney/Ryan 2012


Nope. Nice try. :roll:

On the topic at hand: Isn't that sedition and conspiracy to commit a crime? Methinks that somebody has earned himself a call from the FBI.

No, it's not sedition. Advocating violent revolution is actually illegal in the US under the Smith Act. We're not prosecuting because it's just one guy, AFAIK.
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Postby Person012345 » Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:33 pm

Geilinor wrote:The more of the Bible I see, the less I want to pay an ounce of attention.

Yeah, the bible does that. Making someone actually read the bible can be a pretty good way of deconverting people from christianity.

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Postby Shadowlandistan » Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:33 pm

United States of Republicans wrote:If Obama again

No more Guns

No more 2nd amendment

Taxes raised more

77.8 millions out of work

A liberal/socialist kingdom

FIGHT FOR LIBERTY NOT LIBERALISM FORWARD

Vote Romney/Ryan 2012


Excuse me, but DON'T say Romney/Ryan will bring liberty. You can vote for them, and campaign for them all you want. Liberty is NOT drug prohibition, abortion prohibition, gay marriage prohibition, immigrant prohibition, or anything else conservatives want to BAN. If you were a RP supporter, I would respect you, but don't even think about calling what the typical conservative wants "liberty".
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Postby Nordengrund » Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:34 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Same here. It almost makes me ashamed to be a Virginian. As long as stuff like this keeps up, all Southerners will continue to be classes as ignorant backwoods hicks.

I don't live in Virginia anymore, but I am from there and I share your opinion.


I am from South Carolina, but I also agree to this.
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Postby Democratic Koyro » Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:34 pm

United States of Republicans wrote:If Obama again

No more Guns

No more 2nd amendment

Taxes raised more

77.8 millions out of work

A liberal/socialist kingdom

FIGHT FOR LIBERTY NOT LIBERALISM FORWARD

Vote Romney/Ryan 2012


are you suggesting that Obama is a Monarchist?!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Oh the 77.8 million out of work, no second ammendment and no more guns stuff is unbelievably is stupid too.

Obama might raise taxes, but meh. High taxes are good if you put them heavily in the right places
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Postby Genivaria » Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:37 pm

Jewcrew wrote:
Wikkiwallana wrote:He's not the first to say so recently, nor is he likely to be the last.


I've seen people on both the left and the right make such calls.

Name one leftist in the US who has called for violent action against conservatives.
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