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Postby Northern Dominus » Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:31 am

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New England and The Maritimes wrote:Yet he will still get votes from Republicans. Because it doesn't matter how thoroughly disgusting and terrible someone is; if they have an R next to their name, they get votes.


You know the same goes for Democrats too, right? Or do I need to get out the muck rake?
Don't point fingers; your party isn't pure as the driven snow either. I personally hate you all, elephants and asses alike.
Aaaaand what exactly have the democrats done in the past year on the level of waging a war on women's rights and their bodies like the republicans have exactly?
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Postby Gauthier » Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:32 am

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New England and The Maritimes wrote:Yet he will still get votes from Republicans. Because it doesn't matter how thoroughly disgusting and terrible someone is; if they have an R next to their name, they get votes.


You know the same goes for Democrats too, right? Or do I need to get out the muck rake?
Don't point fingers; your party isn't pure as the driven snow either. I personally hate you all, elephants and asses alike.


Another hipster with the "All Politicians Are Alike" attitude. Got source for people claiming the Democrats were shining bastions of purity? They're not. They just happen to be a little closer grounded to reality (read: less batshit ideological insane) than the Teahadist-lead GOP.
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Postby Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f » Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:34 am

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New England and The Maritimes wrote:Yet he will still get votes from Republicans. Because it doesn't matter how thoroughly disgusting and terrible someone is; if they have an R next to their name, they get votes.


You know the same goes for Democrats too, right? Or do I need to get out the muck rake?
Don't point fingers; your party isn't pure as the driven snow either. I personally hate you all, elephants and asses alike.


Except that the Dems are not as virulently insane as the republicans by a long shot. Certainly the Dems are not my favourites either but they are not a clear and present danger to anyone outside of their spectrum of beliefs.
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Postby Yes Im Biop » Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:34 am

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I take it you have never received less than 100% marks in an exam and have never gotten confused or misspoke nor been misrepresented in reported conversation ever?


Being a politician, it is part of his job not to make those kinds of mistakes...


He is also human. Which should come with it's own 'Shit Happens' Sticker.
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Postby Gauthier » Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:34 am

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Indeed

Akin Statement on "Jaco Report" Interview

St. Louis - Congressman Todd Akin just released the following statement regarding his interview on the "Jaco Report" broadcast this morning in St. Louis:

"As a member of Congress, I believe that working to protect the most vulnerable in our society is one of my most important responsibilities, and that includes protecting both the unborn and victims of sexual assault. In reviewing my off-the-cuff remarks, it's clear that I misspoke in this interview and it does not reflect the deep empathy I hold for the thousands of women who are raped and abused every year. Those who perpetrate these crimes are the lowest of the low in our society and their victims will have no stronger advocate in the Senate to help ensure they have the justice they deserve.

"I recognize that abortion, and particularly in the case of rape, is a very emotionally charged issue. But I believe deeply in the protection of all life and I do not believe that harming another innocent victim is the right course of action. I also recognize that there are those who, like my opponent, support abortion and I understand I may not have their support in this election.

"But I also believe that this election is about a wide-range of very important issues, starting with the economy and the type of country we will be leaving our children and grandchildren. We've had 42 straight months of unacceptably high unemployment, trillion dollar deficits, and Democratic leaders in Washington who are focused on growing government, instead of jobs. That is my primary focus in this campaign and while there are those who want to distract from that, knowing they cannot defend the Democrats' failed economic record of the last four years, that will continue to be my focus in the months ahead."


What is even more scary is that this asshole is a member of the House Committee on Science, Space, and Technology. Wow. I mean really...some one needs to trout slap the wanker.


The Republicans have almost weaponized the Peter Principle. For example, Michele Bwcawkmann is a member of the Intelligence Committee.
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Postby Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f » Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:35 am

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Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f wrote:
Indeed



What is even more scary is that this asshole is a member of the House Committee on Science, Space, and Technology. Wow. I mean really...some one needs to trout slap the wanker.


The Republicans have almost weaponized the Peter Principle. For example, Michele Bwcawkmann is a member of the Intelligence Committee.


Except she is several stages beyond incompetent...she is clinically insane.
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Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f wrote:
Neo Arcad wrote:
You know the same goes for Democrats too, right? Or do I need to get out the muck rake?
Don't point fingers; your party isn't pure as the driven snow either. I personally hate you all, elephants and asses alike.


Except that the Dems are not as virulently insane as the republicans by a long shot. Certainly the Dems are not my favourites either but they are not a clear and present danger to anyone outside of their spectrum of beliefs.


They wouldn't pass laws making dissent a capital crime if they had an actual chance to, either.
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Postby Totalise » Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:36 am

i'm on the political right an i think this guys an idiot

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Postby Yes Im Biop » Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:37 am

Hm...Can't remember who said this but damn if it doesn't fit here.

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Postby Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f » Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:38 am

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Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f wrote:
Except that the Dems are not as virulently insane as the republicans by a long shot. Certainly the Dems are not my favourites either but they are not a clear and present danger to anyone outside of their spectrum of beliefs.


They wouldn't pass laws making dissent a capital crime if they had an actual chance to, either.


Probably coz most dems (at a guess) are not pro capital punishment...
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Postby Norstal » Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:43 am

Northern Skatchbrod wrote:This is one of the many reasons I hate USA. All your politicians are either naive liberals, moderate militarists, conservative idiots, or just plain dumb. I want to hit this guy.

If you keep hearing about those kind of politicians, you'll be inclined to believe that all of our politicians are like that.

Fortunately, we know that's a cognitive bias. You're wrong and you should feel wrong.

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Postby Northern Dominus » Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:46 am

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Northern Skatchbrod wrote:This is one of the many reasons I hate USA. All your politicians are either naive liberals, moderate militarists, conservative idiots, or just plain dumb. I want to hit this guy.

If you keep hearing about those kind of politicians, you'll be inclined to believe that all of our politicians are like that.

Fortunately, we know that's a cognitive bias. You're wrong and you should feel wrong.

http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/ ... -comments/
You can blame propaganda machines like Newscorp for that one. It doesn't matter what the issue is, the reactionary neo-con message will always be broadcast to wherever it can be broadcast.

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Postby Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f » Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:51 am

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Northern Skatchbrod wrote:This is one of the many reasons I hate USA. All your politicians are either naive liberals, moderate militarists, conservative idiots, or just plain dumb. I want to hit this guy.

If you keep hearing about those kind of politicians, you'll be inclined to believe that all of our politicians are like that.

Fortunately, we know that's a cognitive bias. You're wrong and you should feel wrong.

http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/ ... -comments/


Well its a start but really needs to have some proper party backing...
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Postby Ashmoria » Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:54 am

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And yet it's not going to matter.
He represents rural (see "river-billy") Missouri in his district. As long as he keeps harping boilerplate issues and playing to their latent racism in that neck of the woods doubtless he'll get reelected.

hes not up for re-election. he is running against claire mccaskill for the senate.
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Postby Transhuman Proteus » Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:02 am

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New England and The Maritimes wrote:Yet he will still get votes from Republicans. Because it doesn't matter how thoroughly disgusting and terrible someone is; if they have an R next to their name, they get votes.


You know the same goes for Democrats too, right? Or do I need to get out the muck rake?
Don't point fingers; your party isn't pure as the driven snow either. I personally hate you all, elephants and asses alike.


No ones claiming the Democrats are perfect. Most people agree they are far from it.

I would like to see examples of the democrats saying things in the same league as this. Of the Texas GOPs platform with its anti-education and insanely religious planks. Or Bachmann's craziness and Islamophobia. Or...

If you can't give examples then your "they're all equally as bad as one another" lacks validity. If you come back and say "I never said they're equally as bad" then your comment is pointless.
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Postby Telesha » Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:06 am

The fact that people like this can successfully become elected representatives sickens me to a degree I haven't felt...well...ever.

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Postby Revolutopia » Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:07 am

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Alien Space Bats wrote:This is, of course, just another example of how Republican thinking is no longer grounded in reality, but rather in ideological necessity.

If you start from the premise that abortion is bad, you have to consider the possibility of a rape victim wanting to get an abortion. Since extremism is now the rule withing the GOP rather than the exception, the only ideologically proper response to this situation is to come up with some justification for why a rape victim should have to bear the rapist's baby.

Ultimately, this ideological necessity forces people into various highly uncomfortable positions: There is no such thing as rape (what people call rape is merely Surprise Sex With Strangers™ (in which consent is conferred through situational factors, such as provocative dress or poor life-style decisions involving one's choice in parking spaces); rape exists, but Real Rape™ does not produce babies; or Real Rape™ does produce babies, but these blessed children are a beautiful life-changing gift from God, presented in a sort of "broken" way that only a lifetime of pious reflection can help us truly understand.

If it were just abortion and rape, it would be bad enough. But it's everything: Oil pipelines are good for caribou; global climate change can't be man-made, because only God can change the world; only tax cuts for the rich improve the economy; stimulus spending is only good when a Republican President is in the White House; if your income falls and your expenses don't, then you're spending more money; real world data has no relevance when it comes to discussing economics; and it's not racism to believe that African-Americans don't know the value or importance of work, but it is racism to call such sentiments examples of racist ideation. I could go on and on and on and on, but what would be the point?

It would be like shooting fish in a barrel, only less satisfying.


The Republicans will simply pass a law classifying rape-induced pregnancies as "Immaculate Conceptions" which will of course be against the law to abort.


Theology nitpick, but Immaculate Conception only means conceived without sin not virgin birth.

OT: Honestly, is anyone really surprised that a pro-lifer believes this?
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Postby Telesha » Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:11 am

Revolutopia wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
The Republicans will simply pass a law classifying rape-induced pregnancies as "Immaculate Conceptions" which will of course be against the law to abort.


Theology nitpick, but Immaculate Conception only means conceived without sin not virgin birth.

OT: Honestly, is anyone really surprised that a pro-lifer believes this?


Not really, but that really only makes it worse.

I mean, it'd almost be easier to deal with if it honestly felt in any way shocking. These days it's damn near par for the course.

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Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f wrote:Todd Akin said women who are victims of “legitimate rape” don’t get pregnant because their bodies have a way to “shut that whole thing down.”


Wishful thinking there. :palm:

It would be nice if it worked that way, but it doesn't, and this kind of victim-blaming only makes it harder for rape victims to deal with what they've been through. I hope this guy gets blown out of the water at the polls.
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Postby Mail Jeevas » Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:14 am

Revolutopia wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
The Republicans will simply pass a law classifying rape-induced pregnancies as "Immaculate Conceptions" which will of course be against the law to abort.


Theology nitpick, but Immaculate Conception only means conceived without sin not virgin birth.

OT: Honestly, is anyone really surprised that a pro-lifer believes this?

Surprised? Not really. Wish it wasn't so? Hell yes.

I don't see why more Pro-Life'rs can't believe what they want without demonizing the opposition. Want to be pro-life? Sure! Go ahead. But that doesn't mean that everyone has to follow you.

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"Democratic leaders in Washington who are focused on growing government, instead of jobs."

Growing government does grow jobs you idiot senator.
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Postby The House of Petain » Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:17 am

I think this will either help McCaskill or fuck things up for women in Missouri should Akin win.
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Postby Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f » Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:17 am

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"Democratic leaders in Washington who are focused on growing government, instead of jobs."

Growing government does grow jobs you idiot senator.


Only rich people create jobs... :roll:
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Postby The House of Petain » Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:22 am

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Norstal wrote:"Democratic leaders in Washington who are focused on growing government, instead of jobs."

Growing government does grow jobs you idiot senator.


Only rich people create jobs... :roll:


I don't know about that, but I do know that businesses that grow jobs are certainly preferable to government jobs. Competition is a great thing, and when you have a federal "business" that has nothing to compete against...they get lazy, inefficient, and stupid.
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Postby Telesha » Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:22 am

Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f wrote:
Norstal wrote:"Democratic leaders in Washington who are focused on growing government, instead of jobs."

Growing government does grow jobs you idiot senator.


Only rich people create jobs... :roll:


It's always struck me as odd that some of the people that are beating the "government can't create jobs" drum the loudest are running for a government job.

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