Real Rape Victims Don't Get Pregnant

[Farnhamia]

They don't want to end our suffering, either.

They don't want to do it at the cost of millions upon millions of innocent lives, no.

They seem to be incapable of that. As the NY Times said today in an editorial on Congressman Akin ...

Believing life begins at conception isn't really radical; it's scientific fact.

I don't think anyone seriously suggesting the Republican party (GOP being either a sarcastic appellation or misnomer) is planning to remove women's right to vote. Yet. Still the party is supporting what can only be called religious extremism made law.

Sarcasm doesn't work well on the Internet. Also, being pro-life isn't "religious extremism". I'm a pro-life atheist, and half the country is pro-life.

You know, it's really none of your business how a woman conducts her life and deals with reproductive issues, unless she's in a relationship with you. You're entitled to your opinion. All I ask is you keep your nose out of my reproductive system and out of my doctor's office.

[Republic of Gun]

This is one of the many reasons I hate USA. All your politicians are either naive liberals, moderate militarists, conservative idiots, or just plain dumb. I want to hit this guy.

I think most people hate our politicians. I hate most of our politicians. And I live in Texas, which isn't a good place to be for disliking republicans, however stupid they may be. No one really cares if you hate democrats.

[Nulono]

They don't want to do it at the cost of millions upon millions of innocent lives, no.


Believing life begins at conception isn't really radical; it's scientific fact.


Sarcasm doesn't work well on the Internet. Also, being pro-life isn't "religious extremism". I'm a pro-life atheist, and half the country is pro-life.

You know, it's really none of your business how a woman conducts her life and deals with reproductive issues, unless she's in a relationship with you. You're entitled to your opinion. All I ask is you keep your nose out of my reproductive system and out of my doctor's office.

I honestly don't give a fuck about how you conduct your life; I only ask that you not kill anyone.

[Farnhamia]

You know, it's really none of your business how a woman conducts her life and deals with reproductive issues, unless she's in a relationship with you. You're entitled to your opinion. All I ask is you keep your nose out of my reproductive system and out of my doctor's office.

I honestly don't give a fuck about how you conduct your life; I only ask that you not kill anyone.

I won't, don't worry.

[Nulono]

I honestly don't give a fuck about how you conduct your life; I only ask that you not kill anyone.

I won't,[sic] don't worry.

Then don't worry about any pro-life laws.

[Mail Jeevas]

I won't,[sic] don't worry.

Then don't worry about any pro-life laws.

Except many of the pro-life laws the GOP are trying to put into place are liable to kill mothers "/

[Farnhamia]

I won't,[sic] don't worry.

Then don't worry about any pro-life laws.

Those aren't "pro-life," they're anti-choice and anti-women. And why the "[sic]"?

[Samuraikoku]

I won't,[sic] don't worry.

Then don't worry about any pro-life laws.

If she wants to have an abortion, she would worry, because it's not the State's problem.

[Northern Dominus]

Believing life begins at conception isn't really radical; it's scientific fact.

Um...and the source for that medical science breakthrough would be...where?

[The Black Forrest]

I won't,[sic] don't worry.

Then don't worry about any pro-life laws.

Sorry. Women shouldn't have to die for Christian Morality.

Christians should only keep their moral systems to themselves and stop trying to make everybody else live by them.

The label of Pro-Life tends to be filled with hypocrisy. Many Pro-lifers support the death penalty and war in Muslim nations......

[Nulono]

Then don't worry about any pro-life laws.

Those aren't "pro-life," they're anti-choice and anti-women. And why the "[sic]"?

No, they're not "anti-choice". Opposing one option in one choice is not the same as opposing choice in general. Nor is it the same as hating women. The [sic] was because of the comma splice.

Then don't worry about any pro-life laws.

If she wants to have an abortion, she would worry, because it's not the State's problem.

It certainly is the state's problem, as the state ought to protect the right to live of the fetus.

Believing life begins at conception isn't really radical; it's scientific fact.

Um...and the source for that medical science breakthrough would be...where?

Uh, it's not really a breakthrough; it's basic high school science.

Then don't worry about any pro-life laws.

Sorry. Women shouldn't have to die for Christian Morality.

Christians should only keep their moral systems to themselves and stop trying to make everybody else live by them.

The label of Pro-Life tends to be filled with hypocrisy. Many Pro-lifers support the death penalty and war in Muslim nations......

I'm not a Christian, Einstein. Nor do I support the death penalty or war in Muslim nations (or war period, for that matter). Thanks for the ad hominem attack, though.

[Elan Valleys]

You know, it's really none of your business how a woman conducts her life and deals with reproductive issues, unless she's in a relationship with you. You're entitled to your opinion. All I ask is you keep your nose out of my reproductive system and out of my doctor's office.

I honestly don't give a fuck about how you conduct your life; I only ask that you not kill anyone.

She wouldn't be.

A fetus is not yet a living person.

It's really rather similar to a tumour.

[Monlyth]

Those aren't "pro-life," they're anti-choice and anti-women. And why the "[sic]"?

No, they're not "anti-choice". Opposing one option in one choice is not the same as opposing choice in general. Nor is it the same as hating women. The [sic] was because of the comma splice.

If she wants to have an abortion, she would worry, because it's not the State's problem.

It certainly is the state's problem, as the state ought to protect the right to live of the fetus.

Um...and the source for that medical science breakthrough would be...where?

Uh, it's not really a breakthrough; it's basic high school science.

Sorry. Women shouldn't have to die for Christian Morality.

Christians should only keep their moral systems to themselves and stop trying to make everybody else live by them.

The label of Pro-Life tends to be filled with hypocrisy. Many Pro-lifers support the death penalty and war in Muslim nations......

I'm not a Christian, Einstein. Nor do I support the death penalty or war in Muslim nations (or war period, for that matter). Thanks for the ad hominem attack, though.

(S)he never accused you of being Christian though.

[Samuraikoku]

It certainly is the state's problem, as the state ought to protect the right to live of the fetus.

Non-existent. Therefore, not the State's problem.

[Nulono]

I honestly don't give a fuck about how you conduct your life; I only ask that you not kill anyone.

She wouldn't be.

A fetus is not yet a living person.

It's really rather similar to a tumour.

Uh, not really. The fetus is a living member of the human species.

[Farnhamia]

Then don't worry about any pro-life laws.

Sorry. Women shouldn't have to die for Christian Morality.

Christians should only keep their moral systems to themselves and stop trying to make everybody else live by them.

The label of Pro-Life tends to be filled with hypocrisy. Many Pro-lifers support the death penalty and war in Muslim nations......

I try to always call them what they are, anti-choice. I can't honestly call them anti-abortion, because I'm against abortion, too, except as a last resort. And sometimes one is forced to the last resort. No one should use abortion as their standard method of birth control. The idea is absurd and I suspect the number of women who do is negligible.

[Samuraikoku]

Uh, not really. The fetus is a living member of the human species.

It's not living. It cannot live on its own.

[Cestyr]

She wouldn't be.

A fetus is not yet a living person.

It's really rather similar to a tumour.

Uh, not really. The fetus is a living member of the human species.

So are sperm cells. Condoms and masturbation are murder obviously.

[Northern Dominus]

Um...and the source for that medical science breakthrough would be...where?

Uh, it's not really a breakthrough; it's basic high school science.

Refresh my memory then, find me the source of that scientific breakthrough.

Because the last time I looked science still hasn't determined the precise point where an embryo becomes sapient...

[Elan Valleys]

She wouldn't be.

A fetus is not yet a living person.

It's really rather similar to a tumour.

Uh, not really. The fetus is a living member of the human species.

Except it isn't. It's a ball of cells living off the host organism.

Like a tumour.

[The Black Forrest]

Those aren't "pro-life," they're anti-choice and anti-women. And why the "[sic]"?

No, they're not "anti-choice". Opposing one option in one choice is not the same as opposing choice in general. Nor is it the same as hating women. The [sic] was because of the comma splice.

Seriously?

You want to take the decision away from women.

How is that not anti-choice?

Sorry. Women shouldn't have to die for Christian Morality.

Christians should only keep their moral systems to themselves and stop trying to make everybody else live by them.

The label of Pro-Life tends to be filled with hypocrisy. Many Pro-lifers support the death penalty and war in Muslim nations......

I'm not a Christian, Einstein. Nor do I support the death penalty or war in Muslim nations (or war period, for that matter). Thanks for the ad hominem attack, though.

*shrugs* The majority pro-lifers in the US are Christian.

[The Black Forrest]

She wouldn't be.

A fetus is not yet a living person.

It's really rather similar to a tumour.

Uh, not really. The fetus is a living member of the human species.

Ok. So when do we have trials for miscarriage?

They have the potential. It's not guaranteed.

[The Black Forrest]

(S)he never accused you of being Christian though.

*Checks pants*

Boy.

[DaWoad]

give me a definition for human life that does include fetuses but manages to excludes dead people, brain dead people and ovum/sperm.

Er. . . . "human life= fetuses and adults but not.." doesn't count.

[Nulono]

Uh, not really. The fetus is a living member of the human species.

It's not living. It cannot live on its own.

How can you continue to do something you aren't doing to start with? :S

Sorry. Women shouldn't have to die for Christian Morality.

Christians should only keep their moral systems to themselves and stop trying to make everybody else live by them.

The label of Pro-Life tends to be filled with hypocrisy. Many Pro-lifers support the death penalty and war in Muslim nations......

I try to always call them what they are, anti-choice. I can't honestly call them anti-abortion, because I'm against abortion, too, except as a last resort. And sometimes one is forced to the last resort. No one should use abortion as their standard method of birth control. The idea is absurd and I suspect the number of women who do is negligible.

Why are you against abortion at all?

Uh, not really. The fetus is a living member of the human species.

It's not living. It cannot live on its own.

It can live with assistance, and does so. Once removed they stop living. That would be like me saying I'm not sitting because if the chair were taken out from under me I'd fall down.

Uh, not really. The fetus is a living member of the human species.

So are sperm cells. Condoms and masturbation are murder obviously.

Uh, no, sperm cells are not members of the human species.

Uh, it's not really a breakthrough; it's basic high school science.

Refresh my memory then, find me the source of that scientific breakthrough.

Because the last time I looked science still hasn't determined the precise point where an embryo becomes sapient...

Being sapient and being alive are not the same thing.

Uh, not really. The fetus is a living member of the human species.

Except it isn't. It's a ball of cells living off the host organism.

Like a tumour.

Um, abortions take place well past the "ball" stage, and the fetus is an organism composed of living cells, hence a living organism.