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Postby Page » Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:17 pm

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New England and The Maritimes wrote:Yet he will still get votes from Republicans. Because it doesn't matter how thoroughly disgusting and terrible someone is; if they have an R next to their name, they get votes.


Speaking as a native of a thoroughly pro-Democrat region, I can safely say that the same is true for both parties.


The stakes are high.

Yes, I will admit, beneath my genuine disgust at this misogynistic pig Akin and the war on women, I am happy as hell to hear this news. Republicans have been short on scandals this election seasons, and more revolting comments will only work towards the long term benefit of this country.

I'm partisan as hell but I'll be upfront about it.
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Postby Des-Bal » Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:18 pm

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Speaking as a native of a thoroughly pro-Democrat region, I can safely say that the same is true for both parties.


I don't know about that, when a democrat does something stupid their knee jerk response is to throw the guy under the bus and distance themselves from the whole thing.
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:22 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
Krasny-Volny wrote:
Speaking as a native of a thoroughly pro-Democrat region, I can safely say that the same is true for both parties.


I don't know about that, when a democrat does something stupid their knee jerk response is to throw the guy under the bus and distance themselves from the whole thing.

Hey, look!

G.O.P. Trying to Oust Akin From Race for Rape Remarks
WASHINGTON — Fearing that a seat crucial to winning a Senate majority could slip away, the national Republican establishment on Monday unleashed a furious campaign to drive Representative Todd Akin, the party’s newly selected nominee, out of the race against Missouri’s Democratic senator.

Amid an uproar over provocative comments on rape and abortion that Mr. Akin made in an interview broadcast on Sunday, the National Republican Senatorial Committee declared that it would withdraw financial and organizational support for Mr. Akin, including $5 million in advertising already reserved for the fall. In the interview, Mr. Akin said victims of “legitimate rape” rarely got pregnant.

Crossroads GPS, a Republican advocacy group that had already spent more than $5 million to weaken Senator Claire McCaskill of Missouri, considered the Senate’s most endangered incumbent, announced that it was withdrawing from the state.

At the same time, Republican candidates like Mitt Romney and Senator Scott P. Brown of Massachusetts either called for Mr. Akin to step aside or strongly indicated that he should. In a radio interview, the conservative host Sean Hannity pleaded with Mr. Akin to drop out. “Sometimes an election is bigger than one person,” he said.

But Mr. Akin said on Monday that he would not drop out. “I’m not a quitter,” he said on Mike Huckabee’s radio program. “My belief is we’re going to take this thing forward, and by the grace of God, we’re going to win this race.”

Mr. Akin also backtracked on his comments. “Rape is never legitimate,” he said. “It’s an evil act that’s committed by violent predators. I used the wrong words in the wrong way.”

He added: “I also know that people do become pregnant from rape. I didn’t mean to imply that that wasn’t the case.”

But Senator John Cornyn of Texas, chairman of the Senate campaign committee, personally asked Mr. Akin to step aside, a senior Republican Senate campaign aide said.

“Over the next 24 hours, Congressman Akin should carefully consider what is best for him, his family, the Republican Party and the values that he cares about and has fought for throughout his career in public service,” Mr. Cornyn said in a statement.

The rest is here.
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Postby Page » Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:27 pm

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Krasny-Volny wrote:
Speaking as a native of a thoroughly pro-Democrat region, I can safely say that the same is true for both parties.


I don't know about that, when a democrat does something stupid their knee jerk response is to throw the guy under the bus and distance themselves from the whole thing.


The problem is, Democrats have no regard for the long term consequences of doing so.

Example: everyone told the wrong story with the Shirley Sherrod scandal. The "liberal" media only wanted to talk about how screwed over poor Shirley Sherrod was, take a few shots at the conservative media for how they covered it, and ultimately pinned the fault on Vilsack and absolve Obama of any fault.

Now yes, it was sad Sherrod got fucked over, and it was despicable the way Fox News manipulated it. But it seems I'm the only liberal who said "Wait, how weak does Obama look by SUBMITTING to the likes of Brietbart and Fox News by firing her?"
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Postby Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f » Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:27 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Des-Bal wrote:
I don't know about that, when a democrat does something stupid their knee jerk response is to throw the guy under the bus and distance themselves from the whole thing.

Hey, look!

G.O.P. Trying to Oust Akin From Race for Rape Remarks
WASHINGTON — Fearing that a seat crucial to winning a Senate majority could slip away, the national Republican establishment on Monday unleashed a furious campaign to drive Representative Todd Akin, the party’s newly selected nominee, out of the race against Missouri’s Democratic senator.

Amid an uproar over provocative comments on rape and abortion that Mr. Akin made in an interview broadcast on Sunday, the National Republican Senatorial Committee declared that it would withdraw financial and organizational support for Mr. Akin, including $5 million in advertising already reserved for the fall. In the interview, Mr. Akin said victims of “legitimate rape” rarely got pregnant.

Crossroads GPS, a Republican advocacy group that had already spent more than $5 million to weaken Senator Claire McCaskill of Missouri, considered the Senate’s most endangered incumbent, announced that it was withdrawing from the state.

At the same time, Republican candidates like Mitt Romney and Senator Scott P. Brown of Massachusetts either called for Mr. Akin to step aside or strongly indicated that he should. In a radio interview, the conservative host Sean Hannity pleaded with Mr. Akin to drop out. “Sometimes an election is bigger than one person,” he said.

But Mr. Akin said on Monday that he would not drop out. “I’m not a quitter,” he said on Mike Huckabee’s radio program. “My belief is we’re going to take this thing forward, and by the grace of God, we’re going to win this race.”

Mr. Akin also backtracked on his comments. “Rape is never legitimate,” he said. “It’s an evil act that’s committed by violent predators. I used the wrong words in the wrong way.”

He added: “I also know that people do become pregnant from rape. I didn’t mean to imply that that wasn’t the case.”

But Senator John Cornyn of Texas, chairman of the Senate campaign committee, personally asked Mr. Akin to step aside, a senior Republican Senate campaign aide said.

“Over the next 24 hours, Congressman Akin should carefully consider what is best for him, his family, the Republican Party and the values that he cares about and has fought for throughout his career in public service,” Mr. Cornyn said in a statement.

The rest is here.


Good. Who knows...maybe this might act as a wake up call regarding the crazies that seem to have cop-opted the Republican party.
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:28 pm

Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Hey, look!


The rest is here.


Good. Who knows...maybe this might act as a wake up call regarding the crazies that seem to have cop-opted the Republican party.

Maybe, but there's an awful lot of crazy in that party.
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Postby Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f » Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:32 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f wrote:
Good. Who knows...maybe this might act as a wake up call regarding the crazies that seem to have cop-opted the Republican party.

Maybe, but there's an awful lot of crazy in that party.


Yeah I'm not holding out much hope either... *sigh* a glimmer of hope dashed crushed by the weight of reality.
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Postby Des-Bal » Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:34 pm

[quote="Farnhamia";p="10656523"][/quote]

"I used the wrong words in the wrong way." I like that and I am using it from now.
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:45 pm

Des-Bal wrote:"I used the wrong words in the wrong way." I like that and I am using it from now.

Heh. I like it.
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Postby AETEN II » Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:56 pm

What the FUCK is wrong with my damn country? I honestly believe sometimes that a cull of morons would be beneficial to the human race, even if it was cruel and inhumane. They're infecting everything.

That or you have to take a quiz before voting.
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Postby The Reasonable » Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:00 pm

AETEN II wrote:What the FUCK is wrong with my damn country? I honestly believe sometimes that a cull of morons would be beneficial to the human race, even if it was cruel and inhumane. They're infecting everything.

That or you have to take a quiz before voting.


I would support a version of that- a civics/intelligence quiz before voting, except the NAACP and Jesse Jackson's ilk would then play the race card and call it a new literacy test.
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Postby Gauthier » Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:04 pm

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AETEN II wrote:What the FUCK is wrong with my damn country? I honestly believe sometimes that a cull of morons would be beneficial to the human race, even if it was cruel and inhumane. They're infecting everything.

That or you have to take a quiz before voting.


I would support a version of that- a civics/intelligence quiz before voting, except the NAACP and Jesse Jackson's ilk would then play the race card and call it a new literacy test.


Because blacks couldn't pass a civics or intelligence quiz amirite?
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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:05 pm

What is legitimate rape? Which leads to the question what is illegitimate rape? Is the pre rape paperwork not correctly filled out? Did the rape authorization board not sanction the event? Is there a special fine we impose on the rapist for not being "legitimate' in his raping ?

I dont know about stepping down, but he really should not run for re-election.
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Postby Gauthier » Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:08 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:What is legitimate rape? Which leads to the question what is illegitimate rape? Is the pre rape paperwork not correctly filled out? Did the rape authorization board not sanction the event? Is there a special fine we impose on the rapist for not being "legitimate' in his raping ?


Apparently the Republican definition of "legimitate rape" is "She's bloodied, battered and weeping like something out of an episode of Law and Order: SVU."

I dont know about stepping down, but he really should not run for re-election.


I think he should keep running. The Republicans are seeing him as a dead albatross and the longer he's hanging around their necks the better it will go for Democrats and possibly the country.
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Postby Williamson » Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:12 pm

The Reasonable wrote:
AETEN II wrote:What the FUCK is wrong with my damn country? I honestly believe sometimes that a cull of morons would be beneficial to the human race, even if it was cruel and inhumane. They're infecting everything.

That or you have to take a quiz before voting.


I would support a version of that- a civics/intelligence quiz before voting, except the NAACP and Jesse Jackson's ilk would then play the race card and call it a new literacy test.

why can't the feeble minded have their say who runs the country.

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The Reasonable wrote:
I would support a version of that- a civics/intelligence quiz before voting, except the NAACP and Jesse Jackson's ilk would then play the race card and call it a new literacy test.

why can't the feeble minded have their say who runs the country.


Because we almost ended up with President Palin the last time.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:15 pm

Williamson wrote:
The Reasonable wrote:
I would support a version of that- a civics/intelligence quiz before voting, except the NAACP and Jesse Jackson's ilk would then play the race card and call it a new literacy test.

why can't the feeble minded have their say who runs the country.

they do, obama won
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Postby The divided » Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:16 pm

"Akin bows out of CNN appearance at the last minute"

Hopefully he'll bow out of something much more important tomorrow.

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Postby The Reasonable » Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:18 pm

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The Reasonable wrote:
I would support a version of that- a civics/intelligence quiz before voting, except the NAACP and Jesse Jackson's ilk would then play the race card and call it a new literacy test.


Because blacks couldn't pass a civics or intelligence quiz amirite?


The old literacy tests were commonly REALLY DIFFICULT civics tests that most people in general, let alone destitute, uneducated blacks or poor whites of the time, could not pass.

This is a 1965 Alabama literacy test:
http://www.civicallyspeaking.org/literacy.pdf
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Postby Transhuman Proteus » Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:18 pm

Williamson wrote:This guy is really stupid. I really have no idea how somebody likes this help run the country. However i don't hate the guy for his stupidity but i pity the fool


The Orion Spur wrote:Wait, he didn't pass biology but can run the country?


How on earth he ever end up on the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology?

It's like a bad joke.

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Transhuman Proteus wrote:
Williamson wrote:This guy is really stupid. I really have no idea how somebody likes this help run the country. However i don't hate the guy for his stupidity but i pity the fool


The Orion Spur wrote:Wait, he didn't pass biology but can run the country?


How on earth he ever end up on the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology?

It's like a bad joke.


A running gag. Michele Bwcawkmann is in the Intelligence Committee.
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Postby AETEN II » Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:23 pm

The Reasonable wrote:
AETEN II wrote:What the FUCK is wrong with my damn country? I honestly believe sometimes that a cull of morons would be beneficial to the human race, even if it was cruel and inhumane. They're infecting everything.

That or you have to take a quiz before voting.


I would support a version of that- a civics/intelligence quiz before voting, except the NAACP and Jesse Jackson's ilk would then play the race card and call it a new literacy test.

I also support it, an easier version obviously. Just a list of major presidents (Jefferson, Lincoln, T Roosevelt, etc) with a question asking why you think they're important. Obviously the people who give a shit about history and politics would have good answers and the people who don't know who Jefferson was would fail.
(My history teacher has actually encountered people who don't know what the Bill of Rights is, it's sad the state our country is in)
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Excuse me, sir. Seeing as how the V.P. is such a V.I.P., shouldn't we keep the P.C. on the Q.T.? 'Cause if it leaks to the V.C. he could end up M.I.A., and then we'd all be put out in K.P.


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Postby Avenio » Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:45 pm

You know, this whole issue highlights a rather interesting facet of American politics; the GOP, as a central apparatus for the party, seems to have very little control over what candidates say and do.

Up here in Canada, the political parties tightly control what their MPs and candidates say or do - particularly during elections, but also during the non-election years - for fear that it would generate a gaffe or derail the 'narrative' it puts out about itself. Though all the parties do this, the Tories are particularly infamous for their dictatorial party control, largely because they have the most to lose if someone opens their mouth and says the wrong thing; the Tory majority entirely depends on being able to convince the public that they're not the foaming-at-the-mouth conservatives they once were, and are responsible, centrist stewards of government. The actual foaming-at-the-mouth conservatives within the party are given a very tight leash, and those who do say things they're not supposed to face the wrath of Harper.

The GOP, by contrast, seems to be beset with internal squabbles, and seems incapable of first formulating a 'narrative' and then sticking to it; it seems every week or so a new Republican says something controversial and the spotlight veers off of Romney and his platform. More dangerously, the party politburo seems incapable of silencing those distractions effectively, and, indeed, as people have pointed out in the thread, can't even keep internal quarrels about such things within closed doors. One would think that a similar policy as Harper's towards towing the party line would be in order for the GOP, lest they spend the next couple of months constantly putting out brushfire controversies, but they seem either unwilling or unable to do so.

I'm not sure if this is a pure political difference between Canada and the US with regards to party politics or something more systemic and worrying with regards to the GOP's stability, but it should be worrying to the GOP in either case, as history shows from any number of different circumstances that a party and/or campaign that can't keep on message has a bleak future ahead of them when election day come around.

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Postby Transhuman Proteus » Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:54 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Transhuman Proteus wrote:


How on earth he ever end up on the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology?

It's like a bad joke.


A running gag. Michele Bwcawkmann is in the Intelligence Committee.


*Speechless*

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Postby Telesha » Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:55 pm

Farnhamia wrote:Hey, look!

G.O.P. Trying to Oust Akin From Race for Rape Remarks
WASHINGTON — Fearing that a seat crucial to winning a Senate majority could slip away, the national Republican establishment on Monday unleashed a furious campaign to drive Representative Todd Akin, the party’s newly selected nominee, out of the race against Missouri’s Democratic senator.

Amid an uproar over provocative comments on rape and abortion that Mr. Akin made in an interview broadcast on Sunday, the National Republican Senatorial Committee declared that it would withdraw financial and organizational support for Mr. Akin, including $5 million in advertising already reserved for the fall. In the interview, Mr. Akin said victims of “legitimate rape” rarely got pregnant.

Crossroads GPS, a Republican advocacy group that had already spent more than $5 million to weaken Senator Claire McCaskill of Missouri, considered the Senate’s most endangered incumbent, announced that it was withdrawing from the state.

At the same time, Republican candidates like Mitt Romney and Senator Scott P. Brown of Massachusetts either called for Mr. Akin to step aside or strongly indicated that he should. In a radio interview, the conservative host Sean Hannity pleaded with Mr. Akin to drop out. “Sometimes an election is bigger than one person,” he said.

But Mr. Akin said on Monday that he would not drop out. “I’m not a quitter,” he said on Mike Huckabee’s radio program. “My belief is we’re going to take this thing forward, and by the grace of God, we’re going to win this race.”

Mr. Akin also backtracked on his comments. “Rape is never legitimate,” he said. “It’s an evil act that’s committed by violent predators. I used the wrong words in the wrong way.”

He added: “I also know that people do become pregnant from rape. I didn’t mean to imply that that wasn’t the case.”

But Senator John Cornyn of Texas, chairman of the Senate campaign committee, personally asked Mr. Akin to step aside, a senior Republican Senate campaign aide said.

“Over the next 24 hours, Congressman Akin should carefully consider what is best for him, his family, the Republican Party and the values that he cares about and has fought for throughout his career in public service,” Mr. Cornyn said in a statement.

The rest is here.


Well I'll be damned...

I'm almost drunk enough to believe that'll stick.

Avenio wrote:I'm not sure if this is a pure political difference between Canada and the US with regards to party politics or something more systemic and worrying with regards to the GOP's stability, but it should be worrying to the GOP in either case, as history shows from any number of different circumstances that a party and/or campaign that can't keep on message has a bleak future ahead of them when election day come around.


I think it has more to do with the present GOP than anything else. They've always been the party that moved in lock-step, or at least could when the Democrats couldn't. It was a major source of their power in government. In recent years, though, with the rise of the Tea Party they have more and more people like Akin going off, doing their own thing, and...well...putting their foot in it.

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