World Government United Earth

[Old Tyrannia]

I'll take this instead.

We can only hope thats how it ends up.

I have always thought that, if I were born in the Federation, I'd most likely defect to the Romulan Star Empire.

[Genivaria]

We can only hope thats how it ends up.

I have always thought that, if I were born in the Federation, I'd most likely defect to the Romulan Star Empire.

Aren't they racists?

[Old Tyrannia]

I have always thought that, if I were born in the Federation, I'd most likely defect to the Romulan Star Empire.

Aren't they racists?

There was one starfleet officer in TNG who defected. He then defected back again.

[Genivaria]

Aren't they racists?

There was one starfleet officer in TNG who defected. He then defected back again.

So he was with the Federation to begin with or he defected TO the Federation and then went back?

[Vazeckta]

I can't see it working out well without the use of mass genocide, the criteria being human.
Or, it causes mass revolts and our destined alien overlords come to liberate us.

[Old Tyrannia]

There was one starfleet officer in TNG who defected. He then defected back again.

So he was with the Federation to begin with or he defected TO the Federation and then went back?

He was a starfleet officer who defected to the Romulans and then defected back to the Federation again. Then he died. It was a good episode, I think Spock was in it...

[Genivaria]

So he was with the Federation to begin with or he defected TO the Federation and then went back?

He was a starfleet officer who defected to the Romulans and then defected back to the Federation again. Then he died. It was a good episode, I think Spock was in it...

Doesn't that imply that the Federation is better in his eyes then? Spock makes everything better.

[Old Tyrannia]

He was a starfleet officer who defected to the Romulans and then defected back to the Federation again. Then he died. It was a good episode, I think Spock was in it...

Doesn't that imply that the Federation is better in his eyes then? Spock makes everything better.

Yes, but still. They could hardly have an episode about how Romulus is actually a really great place and the Empire is way better than the Federation, could they?

[Genivaria]

Doesn't that imply that the Federation is better in his eyes then? Spock makes everything better.

Yes, but still. They could hardly have an episode about how Romulus is actually a really great place and the Empire is way better than the Federation, could they?

Fair point, the Federation are the Protagonists in Star Trek.
But I'm just saying that doesn't the Star Empire look down on Non-Romulans in the same way Romans looked down on Non-Romans? Why would you defect there?

[Old Tyrannia]

Yes, but still. They could hardly have an episode about how Romulus is actually a really great place and the Empire is way better than the Federation, could they?

Fair point, the Federation are the Protagonists in Star Trek.
But I'm just saying that doesn't the Star Empire look down on Non-Romulans in the same way Romans looked down on Non-Romans? Why would you defect there?

I want to command a D'deridex Warbird
Seriously, those things are badass. Also, the Romans didn't look down on non-Romans. That is to say, they weren't racist. They were just cultural supremacists. They accepted anyone who assimilated into their society. Barbarians weren't just foreigners, they were uncivilized foreigners. It didn't matter where you came from so long as you acted Roman.

[Quebec and Atlantic Canada]

Yeah, World Government isn't probably feasible until most of the NEW WORLD ORDER ILLUMINATI 2012 FEMA DEATH CAMPS ALEX JONES etc. etc. crowd dies off.

Great, now they're going to start thinking that's what the conspiracy is actually planning.

[Blakk Metal]

If that happens, I will try to destroy it to the best my ability. Fuck Rome.

[Silent Majority]

I will try to keep religious discussion to a minimum in this thread, but my faith teaches that there will be a one world government ran by the Antichrist. I think at first it would be effecient, then leads to destruction.

We have enough real problems in the world, lets not worry about the fictional ones.

[Calimera]

Guys, this could seriously happen.
(Dont want to be cool or something)
But my Grandfather was embassador of Argentina in different countries and ceremonial head of the Argentinian state as well as one of the men that helped Alfonsin with establishing a working governmental system. And his father again was lawyer, minister of Economy, writer, and some stuff more. So I believe my grandfather when he says that nations are going to vanish slowly.

[Mad hatters in jeans]

I will try to keep religious discussion to a minimum in this thread, but my faith teaches that there will be a one world government ran by the Antichrist. I think at first it would be effecient, then leads to destruction.

well at least it's a succinct summary.

[Liriena]

Such a world government could not be the product of worldwide annexation by a single nation or coalition. It probably would be spearheaded by the United Nations. Probably a parliamentary government led by the General Assembly.

[Nordengrund]

I will try to keep religious discussion to a minimum in this thread, but my faith teaches that there will be a one world government ran by the Antichrist. I think at first it would be effecient, then leads to destruction.

We have enough real problems in the world, lets not worry about the fictional ones.

Actually, it is Biblical prophecy, the movies were based on that Biblical prophecy.

[Liriena]

We have enough real problems in the world, lets not worry about the fictional ones.

Actually, it is Biblical prophecy, the movies were based on that Biblical prophecy.

And Norse mythology speaks of the Ragnarok, and movies and videogames have been made on it, but you don't see me worried about getting killed by Odin's spear.

And Hindu mythology says that eventually Brahma will die and the universe's cycle will start over. But you don't see me worried about being killed by a Big Crunch and then reincarnated.

[Nordengrund]

Actually, it is Biblical prophecy, the movies were based on that Biblical prophecy.

And Norse mythology speaks of the Ragnarok, and movies and videogames have been made on it, but you don't see me worried about getting killed by Odin's spear.

And Hindu mythology says that eventually Brahma will die and the universe's cycle will start over. But you don't see me worried about being killed by a Big Crunch and then reincarnated.

Well, all the religions of the world were there to explain things and define the role and purpose of humanity. The Norse could have some how knew the end of the world was coming, maybe Ragnarok is their version of the Biblical apocalypse.

[Silent Majority]

We have enough real problems in the world, lets not worry about the fictional ones.

Actually, it is Biblical prophecy, the movies were based on that Biblical prophecy.

That doesn't make my statement any less true.

[The Nuclear Fist]

Well, all the religions of the world were there to explain things and define the role and purpose of humanity. The Norse could have some how knew the end of the world was coming, maybe Ragnarok is their version of the Biblical apocalypse.

Or maybe the Biblical end times is the Christian version of Yog-Sothothery's alignment of the stars, when the Elder Gods will descend upon the world and all shall end in an orgy of bloodshed and violence.

[Nordengrund]

Well, all the religions of the world were there to explain things and define the role and purpose of humanity. The Norse could have some how knew the end of the world was coming, maybe Ragnarok is their version of the Biblical apocalypse.

Or maybe the Biblical end times is the Christian version of Yog-Sothothery's alignment of the stars, when the Elder Gods will descend upon the world and all shall end in an orgy of bloodshed and violence.

Could be. Or it could be a Christian version of the Mayan prophecy.

[Muckistania]

how would a world government work? Who would run it? Would they fix the worlds problems or cause it's destruction? How would the government keep control of there people?

In my view the goverment would create a large police force. The ruler would be a absolute monarchy who rules with a iron fist. Oppressing anyone who steps out of line. He would fix the world problems like oil by increasing the rate at what we pump. Well he works on alternative fuels. He then would use all the worlds resources to make scientific discovery and try and end poverty.

Go on discuss

A world government would not work in shape or form in our present world because one of the principle requirements for the necessary stability of that government would not exist, namely the presence of another external government.

Any single world government that formed under present circumstances would rapidly become unstable and inevitably collapse.

A single world government would neither fix the worlds problems or cause it's destruction. It would just cause a great deal of unnecessary pain and destruction while the world's peoples degenerated back into a more stable form.

I do not see how a single world government would be able to keep control of all of the people or even over its own aristocracy.

A police force in humanitarian nations and even in those not so inclined, depends on the popular support of the people. Without this the police lose control. In the most oppressive authoritarian states the police uses solely fear to control the people, but these states cannot exist by themselves, they invariable parasite off of less oppressive states for basic necessities. So a long term global governance could never rely on such a modal.

Pumping oil and developing alternative fuels is only a very small part of the problems that make up our world. Poverty does not exist solely because of shortage. The world presently produces enough energy, food, clothes and other stuff to remove the worlds people from absolute poverty.

[Liriena]

Or maybe the Biblical end times is the Christian version of Yog-Sothothery's alignment of the stars, when the Elder Gods will descend upon the world and all shall end in an orgy of bloodshed and violence.

Could be. Or it could be a Christian version of the Mayan prophecy.

If the so-called Mayan prophecy was about the end of the world...Which it is not.
Actual experts (that is, those who are not nutjobs on the History Channel) have already explain over and over that the end of the Mayan Calendar does not mark the end of the world, just the end of the calendar, and that even then, Mayans saw time as circular. Thus, the world would not end, but just start a new cycle.

Hell, not long ago it was discovered that, since the Mayan calendar didn't count leap years, the world should have "ended" months ago.

[The Nuclear Fist]

Could be. Or it could be a Christian version of the Mayan prophecy.

More likely, however, it could all be bullshit.

Now, back on topic. I've yet to see why anyone who hate the idea of a one world government, except for the jingoistic "Fuck yeah, [insert country name]!" circle jerks, nor have I seen a reason why it would be oppressive.