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Postby The Wacha » Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:50 am

how would a world government work? Who would run it? Would they fix the worlds problems or cause it's destruction? How would the government keep control of there people?

In my view the goverment would create a large police force. The ruler would be a absolute monarchy who rules with a iron fist. Oppressing anyone who steps out of line. He would fix the world problems like oil by increasing the rate at what we pump. Well he works on alternative fuels. He then would use all the worlds resources to make scientific discovery and try and end poverty.

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Postby Pendragonia » Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:52 am

The Wacha wrote:how would a world government work? Who would run it? Would they fix the worlds problems or cause it's destruction? How would the government keep control of there people?

In my view the goverment would create a large police force. The ruler would be a absolute monarchy who rules with a iron fist. Oppressing anyone who steps out of line. He would fix the world problems like oil by increasing the rate at what we pump. Well he works on alternative fuels. He then would use all the worlds resources to make scientific discovery and try and end poverty.

Go on discuss



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Postby Nordengrund » Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:52 am

I will try to keep religious discussion to a minimum in this thread, but my faith teaches that there will be a one world government ran by the Antichrist. I think at first it would be effecient, then leads to destruction.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:53 am

Someday it will happen. Especially if we start colonizing other planets.

It will probably be bloody and screw up a great deal but it will happen.....
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Postby Arborlawn » Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:56 am

Ideally, it will destroy the Chinese.
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Postby Meryuma » Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:05 am

Nordengrund wrote:I will try to keep religious discussion to a minimum in this thread, but my faith teaches that there will be a one world government ran by the Antichrist. I think at first it would be effecient, then leads to destruction.


Did you know that there is no figure in the Bible called "the Antichrist"?
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Postby Nordengrund » Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:07 am

Meryuma wrote:
Nordengrund wrote:I will try to keep religious discussion to a minimum in this thread, but my faith teaches that there will be a one world government ran by the Antichrist. I think at first it would be effecient, then leads to destruction.


Did you know that there is no figure in the Bible called "the Antichrist"?


That is because they call him the Beast in the Book of Revelation.
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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:40 am

Not gonna happen. Too many cultural and ideological differences.

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Postby Norstal » Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:41 am

Nordengrund wrote:I will try to keep religious discussion to a minimum in this thread, but my faith teaches that there will be a one world government ran by the Antichrist. I think at first it would be effecient, then leads to destruction.

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Postby Elipida » Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:47 am

Not possible in our situation. Too many countries, racism, cultures, ideologies and patriotism for us to really unite. Maybe if we go and colonize some other planet as the UN, than it might work.

The only way i see it working here on modern-day Earth is if we were all taken over by some giant benevolent alien race, or maybe attacked by an alien race and forced us to unite

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Postby The House of Petain » Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:48 am

It wouldn't.
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Postby Blazedtown » Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:48 am

Norstal wrote:
Nordengrund wrote:I will try to keep religious discussion to a minimum in this thread, but my faith teaches that there will be a one world government ran by the Antichrist. I think at first it would be effecient, then leads to destruction.

"Left Behind" is a fictional work.


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Postby San Leggera » Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:50 am

I'd let the muffin man make the decisions.
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Postby Romalae » Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:52 am

Charlotte Ryberg wrote:Not gonna happen. Too many cultural and ideological differences.


This sums it up pretty well. Given how dissimilar we all are, a one world entity would just not work out.
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Postby Trefeqia » Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:54 am

I heard that nations are first going to form unions like the European Union, and will start with at least union of two countries, and soon there will be unions of whole continents then each union will want form a bigger union with another unions and goes on until there a one world government. But that will happen in around two centuries.
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Postby Napkiraly » Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:00 pm

Trefeqia wrote:I heard that nations are first going to form unions like the European Union, and will start with at least union of two countries, and soon there will be unions of whole continents then each union will want form a bigger union with another unions and goes on until there a one world government. But that will happen in around two centuries.

Or those unions might break up for various reasons.

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Postby Conscentia » Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:01 pm

The Wacha wrote:how would a world government work? Who would run it? Would they fix the worlds problems or cause it's destruction? How would the government keep control of there people?


A federation of federations. Perhaps somewhat like a modified UN.
In my opinion, increased cooperation between governing bodies and the end of nation vs nation would be beneficial.
The government would maintain order in much the same way they do now. Police forces already cooperate in order to capture criminals which travel between nations. Even in existing nation, the police force is often divided by region.
NATO & the UN show that multi-national militaries are possible.

What irritates me is that people don't realise that the world is effectively already a giant federation. At the UN nations cooperate to achieve common goals. Globalisation, immigration, & international trade have rendered the concept of truly independent nations effectively obsolete. Organisations operate on international scales. The economies of each nation are linked in a giant world economy. Governments borrow money from other governments. etc. etc.

Unfortunately because people don't realise this the world is badly organised.

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Postby Stovokor » Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:02 pm

Nordengrund wrote:I will try to keep religious discussion to a minimum in this thread, but my faith teaches that there will be a one world government ran by the Antichrist. I think at first it would be effecient, then leads to destruction.


So much for keeping it to a minimum

That said I think we as a species will eventually form into one world government or a coalition of a few powerful governments in order to meet future needs of survival and expansion. I think it's pretty much an inevitability, how it will turn out though is truly anyone guess.
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Postby Divair » Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:02 pm

For a world government to work, we'll first see the establishment of colonies on other planets.

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Postby Bambi Praxis » Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:03 pm

The Wacha wrote:how would a world government work?


Well I imagine it as a Federation of previously existing governments. It would enforce only such laws as a supermajority (say 3/4 at first) of the world's people agreed on.

Oh, wait, I should mention that it would be democratically elected. One person, one vote.

The advantages of such a system aren't obvious, except this one advantage: it would command the only significant military on earth. Pretty much indefinitely, I expect this military would only fight to destroy upstart militaries (though lightly armed militia/police would be permitted under national or regional governments) and they'd spend most of their time training.

Economic before legal union deserves some consideration though. Equalize trading conditions in advance of equalizing civil laws, though it shouldn't be a "finish this before starting that" thing because full economic union is a long way off.


Who would run it? Would they fix the worlds problems or cause it's destruction? How would the government keep control of there people?

In my view the goverment would create a large police force. The ruler would be a absolute monarchy who rules with a iron fist. Oppressing anyone who steps out of line. He would fix the world problems like oil by increasing the rate at what we pump. Well he works on alternative fuels. He then would use all the worlds resources to make scientific discovery and try and end poverty.


What's this "he" crap?

Even a large nation, let alone a huge federation, requires a parliamentary government. No President. No Chair. We'd need something more collaborative and all powers not exercised by the world government would remain exercisable by the nations or federations of nations. That is, the world government could not prevent subsidiary governments from doing anything, except by supermajority vote.

And I must mention this again: one person, one vote. The model of "federation" which has one nation one vote is dreadful and impossible to usurp once established.
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Postby Yorkopolis » Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:09 pm

Like others said; It simply wouldn't. It sounds like an idea, but it would not work simply because there are too many cultures and there are too many ideological differences between one another.
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Postby Stovokor » Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:12 pm

Yorkopolis wrote:Like others said; It simply wouldn't. It sounds like an idea, but it would not work simply because there are too many cultures and there are too many ideological differences between one another.


If that's the case, explain why Western Europe hasn't warred with themselves since the second world war.
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Postby Imperial Powers » Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:15 pm

There simply could never be a "world government". People unite behind a national identity. Where is that identity in one single, engulfing government that controls the world? Plus, it is irrational to think that a group could somehow topple all the world's governments. Sure, perhaps certain unstable regimes could fall apart in South America, Asia, and Africa, but they would never be able to unite and stand as one against North American countries and European ones. While people may be unsatisfied in those countries, people in these first world countries stand to lose too much from a world government, not to mention their deep histories.

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Postby The Humanist Federation » Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:17 pm

I think it will happen eventually as globalization increases and the world becomes more economically independent. As we explore space it will become more necessary to pool resources and technological advancements to fully obtain the bounty from our Solar System. As long as the the world government is democratic and secular, I welcome it with open arms and embrace my brothers and sisters from around the world. :hug:

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Postby Conscentia » Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:18 pm

Yorkopolis wrote:Like others said; It simply wouldn't. It sounds like an idea, but it would not work simply because there are too many cultures and there are too many ideological differences between one another.


It sort of already has happened...It's just badly organised, and the many of the states within it are pointing guns at each other.

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