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Postby The God-Realm » Fri Oct 05, 2012 6:07 pm

Menassa wrote:
The God-Realm wrote:Ah.

I heard it used as singular before though.

Like: 'look at them Goys?'

Yes.
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Postby Menassa » Fri Oct 05, 2012 6:10 pm

The God-Realm wrote:
Menassa wrote:Like: 'look at them Goys?'

Yes.

Well you see in the Hebrew language (ancient Hebrew) s is not plural 'im' 'os' or the letter yud symbolizes plural..... so they just take the ancient Hebrew word and make it more 'modern'

Goy literally translates as Nation.
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"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
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Postby NgatiPorou » Sat Oct 06, 2012 1:00 am

Menassa wrote:
NgatiPorou wrote:

Hahahaha!

Why did he create pigs then?

Let me answer that with a question.

Would you agree that a reward is better given or earned?



Pork chops with a delicious apple sauce and crispy crackling being the reward?

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Postby Menassa » Sat Oct 06, 2012 1:09 am

NgatiPorou wrote:
Menassa wrote:Let me answer that with a question.

Would you agree that a reward is better given or earned?



Pork chops with a delicious apple sauce and crispy crackling being the reward?

Eternal happiness being the reward or even better...... earned eternal happiness.
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"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Gratislavia » Sat Oct 06, 2012 1:21 am

I'm a Christian with no Jewish heritage, and on top of that I've never actually met a Jewish fellow.

On the other hand I find myself extremely interested in Jewish culture (which I will admit comes primarily from my knowledge of the Old Testament or Talmud in the Jewish faith iirc.)
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Menassa
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Postby Menassa » Sat Oct 06, 2012 1:24 am

Gratislavia wrote:I'm a Christian with no Jewish heritage, and on top of that I've never actually met a Jewish fellow.

On the other hand I find myself extremely interested in Jewish culture (which I will admit comes primarily from my knowledge of the Old Testament or Talmud in the Jewish faith iirc.)

How incredibly odd.

And correct me if I am mistaken.... but did you say the Talmud was the Old Testament?
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"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Gratislavia » Sat Oct 06, 2012 1:25 am

Menassa wrote:
Gratislavia wrote:I'm a Christian with no Jewish heritage, and on top of that I've never actually met a Jewish fellow.

On the other hand I find myself extremely interested in Jewish culture (which I will admit comes primarily from my knowledge of the Old Testament or Talmud in the Jewish faith iirc.)

How incredibly odd.

And correct me if I am mistaken.... but did you say the Talmud was the Old Testament?

Again that is what I was always led to believe but by no means do I claim to be an expert on Christian or Jewish theology (or any theology at all tbh.)
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Postby Menassa » Sat Oct 06, 2012 1:28 am

Gratislavia wrote:
Menassa wrote:How incredibly odd.

And correct me if I am mistaken.... but did you say the Talmud was the Old Testament?

Again that is what I was always led to believe but by no means do I claim to be an expert on Christian or Jewish theology (or any theology at all tbh.)

You may be mistaken, sire.

The Talmud is the coded Oral Law..... along with the Rabbinical Law..... if you see it as such.
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"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Gratislavia » Sat Oct 06, 2012 1:29 am

Menassa wrote:
Gratislavia wrote:Again that is what I was always led to believe but by no means do I claim to be an expert on Christian or Jewish theology (or any theology at all tbh.)

You may be mistaken, sire.

The Talmud is the coded Oral Law..... along with the Rabbinical Law..... if you see it as such.

Caught myself there, sorry meant Torah (I think) not Talmud.
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Postby Menassa » Sat Oct 06, 2012 1:48 am

Gratislavia wrote:
Menassa wrote:You may be mistaken, sire.

The Talmud is the coded Oral Law..... along with the Rabbinical Law..... if you see it as such.

Caught myself there, sorry meant Torah (I think) not Talmud.

Yes, the Torah.... or Tanach (Torah, Prophets, writings) would be the Jewish version of the Old Testament..... or the correct version.... ;) .... hah I jest surely.

But aside from that, how have you never met a Hebrew or shebrew?

If you need to know anything I'll be here to help.
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Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Menassa » Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:25 pm

I've got a question,

what defines a Jew to you?

To me either someone's mother is Jewish because her mother was Jewish because her mother was Jewish.

Or you convert..... through the orthodox conversion process.
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"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:26 pm

Menassa wrote:
Gratislavia wrote:Caught myself there, sorry meant Torah (I think) not Talmud.

Yes, the Torah.... or Tanach (Torah, Prophets, writings) would be the Jewish version of the Old Testament..... or the correct version.... ;) .... hah I jest surely.

But aside from that, how have you never met a Hebrew or shebrew?

If you need to know anything I'll be here to help.


...Ok i have to work that word into my regular vocabulary.
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:26 pm

Hey, Rabbi Jew, why exactly do Jews not eat Pork? Other than health reasons?
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Postby Gratislavia » Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:28 pm

Menassa wrote:
Gratislavia wrote:Caught myself there, sorry meant Torah (I think) not Talmud.

Yes, the Torah.... or Tanach (Torah, Prophets, writings) would be the Jewish version of the Old Testament..... or the correct version.... ;) .... hah I jest surely.

But aside from that, how have you never met a Hebrew or shebrew?

If you need to know anything I'll be here to help.

Never actually.

As far as the whole pork thing goes iirc God stated that eating an animal with four legs that did not chew a cud was unclean.
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Postby Menassa » Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:29 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Menassa wrote:Yes, the Torah.... or Tanach (Torah, Prophets, writings) would be the Jewish version of the Old Testament..... or the correct version.... ;) .... hah I jest surely.

But aside from that, how have you never met a Hebrew or shebrew?

If you need to know anything I'll be here to help.


...Ok i have to work that word into my regular vocabulary.

You should it's awesome.
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Hey, Rabbi Jew, why exactly do Jews not eat Pork? [b]]Other than health reasons?[/b


Wroang.

. And the pig, because it has a cloven hoof that is completely split, but will not regurgitate its cud; it is unclean for you. ז. וְאֶת הַחֲזִיר כִּי מַפְרִיס פַּרְסָה הוּא וְשֹׁסַע שֶׁסַע פַּרְסָה וְהוּא גֵּרָה לֹא יִגָּר טָמֵא הוּא לָכֶם:
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"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Ethel mermania » Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:29 pm

Menassa wrote:I've got a question,

what defines a Jew to you?

To me either someone's mother is Jewish because her mother was Jewish because her mother was Jewish.

Or you convert..... through the orthodox conversion process.


why orthodox? that denies other rabbi's are real rabbi's.
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Postby Menassa » Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:30 pm

Gratislavia wrote:
Menassa wrote:Yes, the Torah.... or Tanach (Torah, Prophets, writings) would be the Jewish version of the Old Testament..... or the correct version.... ;) .... hah I jest surely.

But aside from that, how have you never met a Hebrew or shebrew?

If you need to know anything I'll be here to help.

Never actually.

As far as the whole pork thing goes iirc God stated that eating an animal with four legs that did not chew a cud was unclean.

Not even a synagogue near you?

Damn.... figures we're only 15 million.
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"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:30 pm

Menassa wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
...Ok i have to work that word into my regular vocabulary.

You should it's awesome.
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Hey, Rabbi Jew, why exactly do Jews not eat Pork? [b]]Other than health reasons?[/b


Wroang.

. And the pig, because it has a cloven hoof that is completely split, but will not regurgitate its cud; it is unclean for you. ז. וְאֶת הַחֲזִיר כִּי מַפְרִיס פַּרְסָה הוּא וְשֹׁסַע שֶׁסַע פַּרְסָה וְהוּא גֵּרָה לֹא יִגָּר טָמֵא הוּא לָכֶם:

Thanks Rabbi Jew!
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Postby Gratislavia » Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:31 pm

Menassa wrote:
Gratislavia wrote:Never actually.

As far as the whole pork thing goes iirc God stated that eating an animal with four legs that did not chew a cud was unclean.

Not even a synagogue near you?

Damn.... figures we're only 15 million.

I grew up in a hill town in Kentucky where the demographic was 98% Caucasian lol.
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Postby Menassa » Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:31 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Menassa wrote:I've got a question,

what defines a Jew to you?

To me either someone's mother is Jewish because her mother was Jewish because her mother was Jewish.

Or you convert..... through the orthodox conversion process.


why orthodox? that denies other rabbi's are real rabbi's.

;)
Most probably...... I am not familiar with the Karaite process of conversion though.
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"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Menassa » Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:32 pm

Gratislavia wrote:
Menassa wrote:Not even a synagogue near you?

Damn.... figures we're only 15 million.

I grew up in a hill town in Kentucky where the demographic was 98% Caucasian lol.

Some Jews are Caucasian :unsure:
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"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Gratislavia » Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:33 pm

Menassa wrote:
Gratislavia wrote:I grew up in a hill town in Kentucky where the demographic was 98% Caucasian lol.

Some Jews are Caucasian :unsure:

True true, but just trying to put it in perspective. The only religious building we had was Baptist.

(In other words we had no diversity of ethnicity or religion)
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Postby Menassa » Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:35 pm

Gratislavia wrote:
Menassa wrote:Some Jews are Caucasian :unsure:

True true, but just trying to put it in perspective. The only religious building we had was Baptist.

Ah how fun....... to my understanding there are not that many Jews in Kentucky since we were expelled from there..... we can take a hint. ;)
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"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Gratislavia » Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:35 pm

Menassa wrote:
Gratislavia wrote:True true, but just trying to put it in perspective. The only religious building we had was Baptist.

Ah how fun....... to my understanding there are not that many Jews in Kentucky since we were expelled from there..... we can take a hint. ;)

You'll have to enlighten me on that specific event lol.
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Postby Menassa » Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:38 pm

Gratislavia wrote:
Menassa wrote:Ah how fun....... to my understanding there are not that many Jews in Kentucky since we were expelled from there..... we can take a hint. ;)

You'll have to enlighten me on that specific event lol.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/anti-semitism/grant.html
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/03/21/what-happened-when-general-grant-expelled-civil-war-jews.html
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/expelled.htm
The Last one's at the bottom.
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"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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