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Postby Vazdania » Wed Dec 25, 2013 11:59 pm

Mizrah wrote:
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Depends if you classify Christianity as Monotheistic on one level.

Your brother? ^.^


Determining whether or not *Christianity is monotheistic is difficult, to say the least. Given my knowledge of Christianity, looking through Jewish eyes, I say it is idolatry.

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Postby Yisrae1 » Thu Dec 26, 2013 12:07 am

Vazdania wrote:
Mizrah wrote:
Determining whether or not *Christianity is monotheistic is difficult, to say the least. Given my knowledge of Christianity, looking through Jewish eyes, I say it is idolatry.

Trinitarian*


Trinitarism is a idolistic ideology I believe!

Yeah, it's like "bro". Ah, hebrew slang <3.
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Postby Vazdania » Thu Dec 26, 2013 12:08 am

Yisrae1 wrote:
Vazdania wrote:Trinitarian*


Trinitarism is a idolistic ideology I believe!

Yeah, it's like "bro". Ah, hebrew slang <3.

Indeed. But of course there is Non Trinitarian Christianity.
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Postby Yisrae1 » Thu Dec 26, 2013 12:14 am

Vazdania wrote:
Yisrae1 wrote:
Trinitarism is a idolistic ideology I believe!

Yeah, it's like "bro". Ah, hebrew slang <3.

Indeed. But of course there is Non Trinitarian Christianity.

Of course but they challenge the Law, therefore there's no justification for Christianity in Jewish eyes. This is the biggest argument we have, stupid, stupid.
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Postby Menassa » Thu Dec 26, 2013 12:35 am

Vazdania wrote:
Yisrae1 wrote:
Trinitarism is a idolistic ideology I believe!

Yeah, it's like "bro". Ah, hebrew slang <3.

Indeed. But of course there is Non Trinitarian Christianity.

It doesn't really matter, I mean we don't celebrate Ramadan it's not our holiday.
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Postby Yisrae1 » Thu Dec 26, 2013 1:05 am

Menassa wrote:
Vazdania wrote:Indeed. But of course there is Non Trinitarian Christianity.

It doesn't really matter, I mean we don't celebrate Ramadan it's not our holiday.

It's true but the matter is that Jews lived in the diasporah and we've picked up some traditions from our gentile siblings but we shouldn't celebrate them, just look at Purim lol. Christmas is a more capitalistic holiday now and Sabra and non-Sabra Jewish children love it, this is why we added gift giving on Chanukkah. We as a people really need to move away from secularism, I don't feel we are like the exiles who return after Babylon and it's sad. We need to be true to HaShem and our Laws or we will be exiled again. Well... No, but you know what I mean.
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Postby Iuronia » Thu Dec 26, 2013 7:00 am

Yisrae1 wrote:
Menassa wrote:It doesn't really matter, I mean we don't celebrate Ramadan it's not our holiday.

It's true but the matter is that Jews lived in the diasporah and we've picked up some traditions from our gentile siblings but we shouldn't celebrate them, just look at Purim lol. Christmas is a more capitalistic holiday now and Sabra and non-Sabra Jewish children love it, this is why we added gift giving on Chanukkah. We as a people really need to move away from secularism, I don't feel we are like the exiles who return after Babylon and it's sad. We need to be true to HaShem and our Laws or we will be exiled again. Well... No, but you know what I mean.

Come Babylon of old, and I'll accept such an exile with zest.

Secularism is the only way right now, at least for the country itself. Such troth won't lead us to golden pastures.
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Postby Leningrad Union » Thu Dec 26, 2013 7:14 am

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Leningrad Union wrote:But what sick fuck makes holocaust jokes?!

Babe, you have no idea how many times I've heard jokes in my old school and work place. When we talk about the Palestinian situation a lot of my compatriots say we should "gass them" or "treat them the way the Germans treated us" because they're the real "untermenschen". Now those jokes are sick, as you know I'm a proud Zionist but before Zionism I'm a Jew and the ideals that come from HaShem are the most important to me. Many Israelis forget our laws, especially the fact that we must be better than the nations who persecute and hate us. We are the representatives of HaShem on earth and I take that responsibility very seriously, sorry I had to make a rant lol. Anyone agree with me?

That's terrible! Hopefully if I have kids, they won't speak like that. It really makes me sick to my stomach to see how people could do stuff like this. Especially Jewish people with the holocaust.

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Postby Menassa » Thu Dec 26, 2013 9:37 am

Yisrae1 wrote:
Menassa wrote:It doesn't really matter, I mean we don't celebrate Ramadan it's not our holiday.

It's true but the matter is that Jews lived in the diasporah and we've picked up some traditions from our gentile siblings but we shouldn't celebrate them, just look at Purim lol. Christmas is a more capitalistic holiday now and Sabra and non-Sabra Jewish children love it, this is why we added gift giving on Chanukkah. We as a people really need to move away from secularism, I don't feel we are like the exiles who return after Babylon and it's sad. We need to be true to HaShem and our Laws or we will be exiled again. Well... No, but you know what I mean.

How is Purim like a gentile holiday? And many religious families don't actually give gifts on Chanukah.

Miamonadies says gifts should only be given to children in order to further their desire for Torah education.
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Postby DogDoo 7 » Thu Dec 26, 2013 9:41 am

Menassa wrote:
Yisrae1 wrote:It's true but the matter is that Jews lived in the diasporah and we've picked up some traditions from our gentile siblings but we shouldn't celebrate them, just look at Purim lol. Christmas is a more capitalistic holiday now and Sabra and non-Sabra Jewish children love it, this is why we added gift giving on Chanukkah. We as a people really need to move away from secularism, I don't feel we are like the exiles who return after Babylon and it's sad. We need to be true to HaShem and our Laws or we will be exiled again. Well... No, but you know what I mean.


Miamonadies says gifts should only be given to children in order to further their desire for Torah education.

Aw, so that explains why the only presents I ever received from my Aunt were books like The Little Midrash Says or Why Marry Jewish.

Edit: I can tell you that it had the opposite effect. I simply read the books and learned their arguments so I could more effectively mock people who gave me these arguments in person.
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Postby Menassa » Thu Dec 26, 2013 9:41 am

DogDoo 7 wrote:
Menassa wrote:
Miamonadies says gifts should only be given to children in order to further their desire for Torah education.

[...] The Little Midrash Says or Why Marry Jewish.

Well that escalated quickly.
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"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby DogDoo 7 » Thu Dec 26, 2013 9:43 am

Menassa wrote:
DogDoo 7 wrote:[...] The Little Midrash Says or Why Marry Jewish.

Well that escalated quickly.

:lol2:
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Postby Leningrad Union » Thu Dec 26, 2013 3:45 pm

DogDoo 7 wrote:
Menassa wrote:
Miamonadies says gifts should only be given to children in order to further their desire for Torah education.

Aw, so that explains why the only presents I ever received from my Aunt were books like The Little Midrash Says or Why Marry Jewish.

Edit: I can tell you that it had the opposite effect. I simply read the books and learned their arguments so I could more effectively mock people who gave me these arguments in person.

I will most definitely be marrying Jewish, and you?

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Postby Vazdania » Thu Dec 26, 2013 5:59 pm

QUESTION TIME! What do you wish was Kosher, but isn't?
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Postby Leningrad Union » Thu Dec 26, 2013 6:33 pm

Vazdania wrote:QUESTION TIME! What do you wish was Kosher, but isn't?

Food made by gentiles

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Postby Vazdania » Thu Dec 26, 2013 6:53 pm

Leningrad Union wrote:
Vazdania wrote:QUESTION TIME! What do you wish was Kosher, but isn't?

Food made by gentiles

:rofl: anything else?
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Postby Leningrad Union » Thu Dec 26, 2013 7:02 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Leningrad Union wrote:Food made by gentiles

:rofl: anything else?

No. I hate pork and seafood

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Postby Vazdania » Thu Dec 26, 2013 7:06 pm

Leningrad Union wrote:
Vazdania wrote: :rofl: anything else?

No. I hate pork and seafood

Agreed. :lol2:
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Dec 26, 2013 8:26 pm

Vazdania wrote:QUESTION TIME! What do you wish was Kosher, but isn't?


i am craving a seafood platter in a garlic brown sauce right about now.
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Postby Maryginia » Thu Dec 26, 2013 8:31 pm

Vazdania wrote:QUESTION TIME! What do you wish was Kosher, but isn't?

Being from Maryland, Crab.
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Postby Vazdania » Thu Dec 26, 2013 8:42 pm

Maryginia wrote:
Vazdania wrote:QUESTION TIME! What do you wish was Kosher, but isn't?

Being from Maryland, Crab.
Ethel mermania wrote:
Vazdania wrote:QUESTION TIME! What do you wish was Kosher, but isn't?


i am craving a seafood platter in a garlic brown sauce right about now.

You guys and your sea food...bleh I can't stand it.
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Postby Leningrad Union » Thu Dec 26, 2013 9:52 pm

Anyone here going to make the aliyah?

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Postby Menassa » Thu Dec 26, 2013 9:52 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Maryginia wrote:Being from Maryland, Crab.
Ethel mermania wrote:
i am craving a seafood platter in a garlic brown sauce right about now.

You guys and your sea food...bleh I can't stand it.

Alright!
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Postby Yisrae1 » Fri Dec 27, 2013 2:56 am

Iuronia wrote:
Yisrae1 wrote:It's true but the matter is that Jews lived in the diasporah and we've picked up some traditions from our gentile siblings but we shouldn't celebrate them, just look at Purim lol. Christmas is a more capitalistic holiday now and Sabra and non-Sabra Jewish children love it, this is why we added gift giving on Chanukkah. We as a people really need to move away from secularism, I don't feel we are like the exiles who return after Babylon and it's sad. We need to be true to HaShem and our Laws or we will be exiled again. Well... No, but you know what I mean.

Come Babylon of old, and I'll accept such an exile with zest.

Secularism is the only way right now, at least for the country itself. Such troth won't lead us to golden pastures.

We should be thankful we don't have to be in exile any more. No, secularism as Jews is not the right way.
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Postby Yisrae1 » Fri Dec 27, 2013 3:07 am

Leningrad Union wrote:
Yisrae1 wrote:Babe, you have no idea how many times I've heard jokes in my old school and work place. When we talk about the Palestinian situation a lot of my compatriots say we should "gass them" or "treat them the way the Germans treated us" because they're the real "untermenschen". Now those jokes are sick, as you know I'm a proud Zionist but before Zionism I'm a Jew and the ideals that come from HaShem are the most important to me. Many Israelis forget our laws, especially the fact that we must be better than the nations who persecute and hate us. We are the representatives of HaShem on earth and I take that responsibility very seriously, sorry I had to make a rant lol. Anyone agree with me?

That's terrible! Hopefully if I have kids, they won't speak like that. It really makes me sick to my stomach to see how people could do stuff like this. Especially Jewish people with the holocaust.

It is terrible to see many of our people not learn the lesson of racism but look at our books, we never learn. Not hopefully, you are having children."Be fruitful, and multiply" bereshis 1:28.
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