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Postby Leningrad Union » Tue Dec 24, 2013 5:14 am

Yisrae1 wrote:
Leningrad Union wrote:I am the next king David

Couldn't you have picked to be the next King Shlomo? I rather be the new Queen of Shevah than Bat Shevah! Lol.

I can't be king David actually. I would never cheat. :P

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Postby Leningrad Union » Tue Dec 24, 2013 5:30 am

Yisrae1 wrote:Kingdom of Israel, Leningrad and me are Levi'im that's pretty awesome :D! Caste system? I do believe that is against one of our 613 mitzvot and that is to love the gentiles. I would never support an Israel under a caste system. As we await the Messiah and I believe we as a people who are lights upon the nations (or lagoyim) and should conduct ourselves as the people of G-d as we are. My belief is that we must push and help the gentiles towards the Messianic Era, it's our duty to show the lovingness and righteousness of G-d is it not?

I do have some Cohen and a little Judah too :)

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Postby Kingdom of Israel » Tue Dec 24, 2013 7:43 am

Yisrae1 wrote:Kingdom of Israel, Leningrad and me are Levi'im that's pretty awesome :D! Caste system? I do believe that is against one of our 613 mitzvot and that is to love the gentiles. I would never support an Israel under a caste system. As we await the Messiah and I believe we as a people who are lights upon the nations (or lagoyim) and should conduct ourselves as the people of G-d as we are. My belief is that we must push and help the gentiles towards the Messianic Era, it's our duty to show the lovingness and righteousness of G-d is it not?

Actually the mitzvah is to "respect the Ger" (Ger=convert), halachically Gentiles that are not Gers can't exist in Israel (It is shown very well in Joshua, and the Hasmonean Kingdom...)
For example- Vazdania would be a Ger Gentile.
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92% Authoritarian
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Postby Kingdom of Israel » Tue Dec 24, 2013 7:44 am

Leningrad Union wrote:
Yisrae1 wrote:Kingdom of Israel, Leningrad and me are Levi'im that's pretty awesome :D! Caste system? I do believe that is against one of our 613 mitzvot and that is to love the gentiles. I would never support an Israel under a caste system. As we await the Messiah and I believe we as a people who are lights upon the nations (or lagoyim) and should conduct ourselves as the people of G-d as we are. My belief is that we must push and help the gentiles towards the Messianic Era, it's our duty to show the lovingness and righteousness of G-d is it not?

I do have some Cohen and a little Judah too :)

On the paternal side- a Levite
And also Cohen on other side of the family.
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91% Nationalistic
57% Fundementalist
88% Reactionary
92% Authoritarian
31% Capitalistic
99% Militaristic
63% Anthropocentric
Jewish Ethnic Nationalism, Revisionist Zionism, Greater Israel, Capitalist Autarky, Population transfer of the Arabs, Hebrew culture and language, Militarism, Powerful government
Anti-nationalism, antisemitism, anti-Zionism, anti-Israel, Cosmopolitanism, Pacifism, Internationalism, Liberalism, Socialism, Communism, Anarchism, "two states", "bi-national state", "all-citizens state", terrorism, Nazism
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Postby Leningrad Union » Tue Dec 24, 2013 7:50 am

Kingdom of Israel wrote:
Leningrad Union wrote:I do have some Cohen and a little Judah too :)

On the paternal side- a Levite
And also Cohen on other side of the family.

My great-grandmother's last name was Kahn and her family was Kahns and Cains. Definitely Cohen.

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Postby Kingdom of Israel » Tue Dec 24, 2013 7:53 am

Leningrad Union wrote:
Kingdom of Israel wrote:On the paternal side- a Levite
And also Cohen on other side of the family.

My great-grandmother's last name was Kahn and her family was Kahns and Cains. Definitely Cohen.

Both descendants of Aaron :P
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91% Nationalistic
57% Fundementalist
88% Reactionary
92% Authoritarian
31% Capitalistic
99% Militaristic
63% Anthropocentric
Jewish Ethnic Nationalism, Revisionist Zionism, Greater Israel, Capitalist Autarky, Population transfer of the Arabs, Hebrew culture and language, Militarism, Powerful government
Anti-nationalism, antisemitism, anti-Zionism, anti-Israel, Cosmopolitanism, Pacifism, Internationalism, Liberalism, Socialism, Communism, Anarchism, "two states", "bi-national state", "all-citizens state", terrorism, Nazism
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Postby Kingdom of Israel » Tue Dec 24, 2013 7:55 am

Yisrae1 wrote:
Leningrad Union wrote:I am the next king David

Couldn't you have picked to be the next King Shlomo? I rather be the new Queen of Shevah than Bat Shevah! Lol.

You'd rather be an Arab? (Joke)
(Shvah is modern Saba in Yemen...)
אגב, הבנתי שאת ישראלית :) גם אני
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91% Nationalistic
57% Fundementalist
88% Reactionary
92% Authoritarian
31% Capitalistic
99% Militaristic
63% Anthropocentric
Jewish Ethnic Nationalism, Revisionist Zionism, Greater Israel, Capitalist Autarky, Population transfer of the Arabs, Hebrew culture and language, Militarism, Powerful government
Anti-nationalism, antisemitism, anti-Zionism, anti-Israel, Cosmopolitanism, Pacifism, Internationalism, Liberalism, Socialism, Communism, Anarchism, "two states", "bi-national state", "all-citizens state", terrorism, Nazism
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Postby Leningrad Union » Tue Dec 24, 2013 8:25 am

What do you all think was the purpose of YHWH's convenant to Abraham?

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Postby Kingdom of Israel » Tue Dec 24, 2013 8:33 am

Leningrad Union wrote:What do you all think was the purpose of YHWH's convenant to Abraham?

I think there was no such covenant :P
I mean, they are also talking about the Philistines in Abraham's story even though they came only 600 years afterBefore his proposed date.

EDIT: Oops, wrote after instead of before :P
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91% Nationalistic
57% Fundementalist
88% Reactionary
92% Authoritarian
31% Capitalistic
99% Militaristic
63% Anthropocentric
Jewish Ethnic Nationalism, Revisionist Zionism, Greater Israel, Capitalist Autarky, Population transfer of the Arabs, Hebrew culture and language, Militarism, Powerful government
Anti-nationalism, antisemitism, anti-Zionism, anti-Israel, Cosmopolitanism, Pacifism, Internationalism, Liberalism, Socialism, Communism, Anarchism, "two states", "bi-national state", "all-citizens state", terrorism, Nazism
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Postby Leningrad Union » Tue Dec 24, 2013 8:38 am

Kingdom of Israel wrote:
Leningrad Union wrote:What do you all think was the purpose of YHWH's convenant to Abraham?

I think there was no such covenant :P
I mean, they are also talking about the Philistines in Abraham's story even though they came only 600 years after his proposed date.

But if there was, what would it be?

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Postby Kingdom of Israel » Tue Dec 24, 2013 8:41 am

Leningrad Union wrote:
Kingdom of Israel wrote:I think there was no such covenant :P
I mean, they are also talking about the Philistines in Abraham's story even though they came only 600 years after his proposed date.

But if there was, what would it be?

What do you mean by 'what'?
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91% Nationalistic
57% Fundementalist
88% Reactionary
92% Authoritarian
31% Capitalistic
99% Militaristic
63% Anthropocentric
Jewish Ethnic Nationalism, Revisionist Zionism, Greater Israel, Capitalist Autarky, Population transfer of the Arabs, Hebrew culture and language, Militarism, Powerful government
Anti-nationalism, antisemitism, anti-Zionism, anti-Israel, Cosmopolitanism, Pacifism, Internationalism, Liberalism, Socialism, Communism, Anarchism, "two states", "bi-national state", "all-citizens state", terrorism, Nazism
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Postby Leningrad Union » Tue Dec 24, 2013 8:43 am

Kingdom of Israel wrote:
Leningrad Union wrote:But if there was, what would it be?

What do you mean by 'what'?

It's purpose.

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Postby Menassa » Tue Dec 24, 2013 9:24 am

Leningrad Union wrote:What do you all think was the purpose of YHWH's convenant to Abraham?

The Abrahamic covenant was to ensure the survival of the Jewish people and all future covenants would be with them.
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Postby Leningrad Union » Tue Dec 24, 2013 9:28 am

Menassa wrote:
Leningrad Union wrote:What do you all think was the purpose of YHWH's convenant to Abraham?

The Abrahamic covenant was to ensure the survival of the Jewish people and all future covenants would be with them.

What I thought, thanks. :)

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Postby Menassa » Tue Dec 24, 2013 9:31 am

Leningrad Union wrote:
Menassa wrote:The Abrahamic covenant was to ensure the survival of the Jewish people and all future covenants would be with them.

What I thought, thanks. :)

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"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Menassa » Tue Dec 24, 2013 1:52 pm

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Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Leningrad Union » Tue Dec 24, 2013 1:57 pm


What do you think?

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Postby Menassa » Tue Dec 24, 2013 2:01 pm

Leningrad Union wrote:

What do you think?

I have no idea honestly, I could see how it could be used antisemitically but other than that I'm a bit baffled.

Perhaps he had some philo-semitism?
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"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Leningrad Union » Tue Dec 24, 2013 2:03 pm

Menassa wrote:
Leningrad Union wrote:What do you think?

I have no idea honestly, I could see how it could be used antisemitically but other than that I'm a bit baffled.

Perhaps he had some philo-semitism?

How could you use a great explorer's Jewry as a tool of antisemitism?

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Postby Dangelia » Tue Dec 24, 2013 2:05 pm


He does look Jewish to me.

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Postby Menassa » Tue Dec 24, 2013 2:06 pm

Leningrad Union wrote:
Menassa wrote:I have no idea honestly, I could see how it could be used antisemitically but other than that I'm a bit baffled.

Perhaps he had some philo-semitism?

How could you use a great explorer's Jewry as a tool of antisemitism?

Well Colombus didn't have the greatest string of peace and people could say that this happened because he was Jewish... or that the violence he caused was because of his Judaism...
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"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Menassa » Tue Dec 24, 2013 2:06 pm

Dangelia wrote:

He does look Jewish to me.

It's the hat.
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"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Dangelia » Tue Dec 24, 2013 2:11 pm

Menassa wrote:
Dangelia wrote:He does look Jewish to me.

It's the hat.

Probably.

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Postby Ammar » Tue Dec 24, 2013 8:20 pm

Does anyone else think Ebenezer Scrooge is a Jewish stereotype?
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Postby Ammar » Tue Dec 24, 2013 8:23 pm

Does anyone else think Ebenezer Scrooge is a Jewish stereotype?
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