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Postby Neutraligon » Sun Aug 26, 2012 4:29 pm

I'm not sure if I should post this in this thread or the Christian discussion one, but how is it religion went from focusing on this life for Jews to focusing on the next life for Christians?
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Postby Jewcrew » Sun Aug 26, 2012 7:47 pm

Who's excited for Rosh Hashanah? I know I am!

Not looking forward to the fast on Yom Kippur, though.
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Postby Caninope » Sun Aug 26, 2012 7:57 pm

Neutraligon wrote:I'm not sure if I should post this in this thread or the Christian discussion one, but how is it religion went from focusing on this life for Jews to focusing on the next life for Christians?

I'm guessing that this guy, Jesus, might have had something to do with it.

Just a wild guess.
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Postby Menassa » Sun Aug 26, 2012 7:57 pm

Neutraligon wrote:I'm not sure if I should post this in this thread or the Christian discussion one, but how is it religion went from focusing on this life for Jews to focusing on the next life for Christians?

That's sounds like it belongs in the christian thread.
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Postby Maryginia » Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:01 pm

Jewcrew wrote:Who's excited for Rosh Hashanah? I know I am!

Not looking forward to the fast on Yom Kippur, though.

I like Rosh Hashanah, But Yom Kippur isn't very fun, But for Me it's the only day I fast, so I consider it to be One day fasting and I'm done, I just eat a ton the day before, drink a ton of Water and since I have to take my medicine with A liquid, as in at least a half of a glass,it's not too bad, What's everyone's favorite Holiday Out of curiosity, Myself I like Chanukah the best.
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Postby Jewcrew » Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:16 pm

Maryginia wrote:
Jewcrew wrote:Who's excited for Rosh Hashanah? I know I am!

Not looking forward to the fast on Yom Kippur, though.

I like Rosh Hashanah, But Yom Kippur isn't very fun, But for Me it's the only day I fast, so I consider it to be One day fasting and I'm done, I just eat a ton the day before, drink a ton of Water and since I have to take my medicine with A liquid, as in at least a half of a glass,it's not too bad, What's everyone's favorite Holiday Out of curiosity, Myself I like Chanukah the best.


I tend to fast more as I've gotten more religious. Tisha Ba'av has become a big one for me.

I like Purim the best. Chanukah is important for its message of keeping other religions separate from ours and not allowing others to force their views onto us, but Purim is one of those outright displays of retribution against those that would harm our people, which I agree with.
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“Nobody does Israel any service by proclaiming its 'right to exist.'

Israel's right to exist, like that of the United States, Saudi Arabia and 152 other states, is axiomatic and unreserved. Israel's legitimacy is not suspended in midair awaiting acknowledgement....

There is certainly no other state, big or small, young or old, that would consider mere recognition of its 'right to exist' a favor, or a negotiable concession.” - former Israeli Foreign Affairs Minister Abba Eben

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Caninope wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:I'm not sure if I should post this in this thread or the Christian discussion one, but how is it religion went from focusing on this life for Jews to focusing on the next life for Christians?

I'm guessing that this guy, Jesus, might have had something to do with it.

Just a wild guess.

It is more of a pre jesus thing, the later prophets started talking about gods demands for mercy and kindness for his people, and even an afterlife. if you look af the dead sea scrolls, the preachings of a group called the essenes, and the preaching of jesus in the gospels, you will find some similarities.
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Mon Aug 27, 2012 4:10 am

Say, I've read in the Bible about people in that time fasting. Do the Jews fast for religious reasons?
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Postby Draugaborg » Mon Aug 27, 2012 5:39 am

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Say, I've read in the Bible about people in that time fasting. Do the Jews fast for religious reasons?


...of course they don't. Yom Kippur is all about fasting for religion. Well, it's to repent for all they've done and stuff.
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Postby Maryginia » Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:45 am

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Say, I've read in the Bible about people in that time fasting. Do the Jews fast for religious reasons?

Jews do Fast for religious reasons off the top of my head I can name three:
Tish'b'av
Yom Kippur
Fast of Gedaliah\As for me I only fast on YoM Kippur.
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Postby Greed and Death » Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:52 am

Jewish people, you mean those people who get blamed for everything bad in the world.
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Postby Jewcrew » Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:56 am

greed and death wrote:Jewish people, you mean those people who get blamed for everything bad in the world.


Yeah, we get blamed for pretty much everything.

You'll notice that people today are switching from 'Jews' to 'Israel', yet the accusations remain pretty much the same.
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“Nobody does Israel any service by proclaiming its 'right to exist.'

Israel's right to exist, like that of the United States, Saudi Arabia and 152 other states, is axiomatic and unreserved. Israel's legitimacy is not suspended in midair awaiting acknowledgement....

There is certainly no other state, big or small, young or old, that would consider mere recognition of its 'right to exist' a favor, or a negotiable concession.” - former Israeli Foreign Affairs Minister Abba Eben

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Postby Jewcrew » Mon Aug 27, 2012 11:00 am

Well, this is awesome: http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2012/08 ... n=20120827

Now the next time someone is getting upset with us for circumcision, we have the full advantage.
Zionism is the only path to peace. Masada will never fall again.

“Nobody does Israel any service by proclaiming its 'right to exist.'

Israel's right to exist, like that of the United States, Saudi Arabia and 152 other states, is axiomatic and unreserved. Israel's legitimacy is not suspended in midair awaiting acknowledgement....

There is certainly no other state, big or small, young or old, that would consider mere recognition of its 'right to exist' a favor, or a negotiable concession.” - former Israeli Foreign Affairs Minister Abba Eben

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Postby Menassa » Mon Aug 27, 2012 11:43 am

Maryginia wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Say, I've read in the Bible about people in that time fasting. Do the Jews fast for religious reasons?

Jews do Fast for religious reasons off the top of my head I can name three:
Tish'b'av
Yom Kippur
Fast of Gedaliah\As for me I only fast on YoM Kippur.

I can name a few more:
The fast of Gedaliah
Yom Kippur
The tenth of tevet
The fast of esther
The 17th of tammuz
Tisha 'b'Av
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Postby Draugaborg » Mon Aug 27, 2012 12:48 pm

Jewcrew wrote:Well, this is awesome: http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2012/08 ... n=20120827

Now the next time someone is getting upset with us for circumcision, we have the full advantage.


"We have no right as parents or as physicians or adults to strap them down and chop off a normal part of their body." Or your disadvantage.
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Postby Jewcrew » Mon Aug 27, 2012 12:51 pm

Draugaborg wrote:
Jewcrew wrote:Well, this is awesome: http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2012/08 ... n=20120827

Now the next time someone is getting upset with us for circumcision, we have the full advantage.


"We have no right as parents or as physicians or adults to strap them down and chop off a normal part of their body." Or your disadvantage.


This is not the place to have this debate. Even if it were the debate effectively ended already, with proof positive that circumcision is medically beneficial and is now recommended, in favour of infant circumcision being legal and up to the parent.

Now go away.
Zionism is the only path to peace. Masada will never fall again.

“Nobody does Israel any service by proclaiming its 'right to exist.'

Israel's right to exist, like that of the United States, Saudi Arabia and 152 other states, is axiomatic and unreserved. Israel's legitimacy is not suspended in midair awaiting acknowledgement....

There is certainly no other state, big or small, young or old, that would consider mere recognition of its 'right to exist' a favor, or a negotiable concession.” - former Israeli Foreign Affairs Minister Abba Eben

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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Mon Aug 27, 2012 5:14 pm

Maryginia wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Say, I've read in the Bible about people in that time fasting. Do the Jews fast for religious reasons?

Jews do Fast for religious reasons off the top of my head I can name three:
Tish'b'av
Yom Kippur
Fast of Gedaliah\As for me I only fast on YoM Kippur.

Thanks!
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Postby Nordengrund » Mon Aug 27, 2012 5:16 pm

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Postby Weslyria » Mon Aug 27, 2012 5:20 pm

Jew are alright, I suppose. They aren't annoying like evangelist Christians always trying to convert people. In fact, its quite the opposite case with Jews, isn't it? They're sort of exclusive as far as membership, or so I've heard.

Nordengrund wrote:I'm a Christian, but I love Jews.


I highly doubt you know all of the Jews in the world intimately. Sure, you may in general like Jews but that doesn't mean you love every single one of them.
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Postby Menassa » Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:07 pm

Sooooooooooo the Yamin NaRayim.

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Postby Ralkovia » Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:10 pm

Weslyria wrote:Jew are alright, I suppose. They aren't annoying like evangelist Christians always trying to convert people. In fact, its quite the opposite case with Jews, isn't it? They're sort of exclusive as far as membership, or so I've heard.

Nordengrund wrote:I'm a Christian, but I love Jews.


I highly doubt you know all of the Jews in the world intimately. Sure, you may in general like Jews but that doesn't mean you love every single one of them.


He can love all Jews if he wants. I don't mind. Just don't touch our wimminz...
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Postby Menassa » Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:13 pm

Ralkovia wrote:
Weslyria wrote:Jew are alright, I suppose. They aren't annoying like evangelist Christians always trying to convert people. In fact, its quite the opposite case with Jews, isn't it? They're sort of exclusive as far as membership, or so I've heard.



I highly doubt you know all of the Jews in the world intimately. Sure, you may in general like Jews but that doesn't mean you love every single one of them.


He can love all Jews if he wants. I don't mind. Just don't touch our wimminz...

Like it says in Isaiah..... all of Israel is one...
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"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:23 pm

Ralkovia wrote:
Weslyria wrote:Jew are alright, I suppose. They aren't annoying like evangelist Christians always trying to convert people. In fact, its quite the opposite case with Jews, isn't it? They're sort of exclusive as far as membership, or so I've heard.



I highly doubt you know all of the Jews in the world intimately. Sure, you may in general like Jews but that doesn't mean you love every single one of them.


He can love all Jews if he wants. I don't mind. Just don't touch our wimminz...


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Postby Menassa » Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:24 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Ralkovia wrote:
He can love all Jews if he wants. I don't mind. Just don't touch our wimminz...


Take my wife . . . Please

Uh uh there sonny...... remember your Leviticus.
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"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:30 pm

Menassa wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
Take my wife . . . Please

Uh uh there sonny...... remember your Leviticus.

I'm missing something.
The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion … but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.

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