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Postby Mizrah » Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:34 pm

Mirkana wrote:You know, maybe they should just elect the Gil Pensioners. Just for a laugh.


I like the Gil. They are nice as well. If we could form a coalition between the National Union and Gil, maybe with Shas, everything would be nice.
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Postby Mirkana » Mon Jan 07, 2013 12:22 am

I'm just trying to imagine what a Gil PM would be like.
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Mon Jan 07, 2013 12:45 am

What do you call those things that you put on your door to mark it as a Jewish home?

I'm working on a fantasy story where there are some Jewish characters and those door thingies have supernatural power. I might have some other questions later.
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Postby Divair » Mon Jan 07, 2013 12:47 am

Nazi Flower Power wrote:What do you call those things that you put on your door to mark it as a Jewish home?

I'm working on a fantasy story where there are some Jewish characters and those door thingies have supernatural power. I might have some other questions later.

Mezuzah.
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Mon Jan 07, 2013 12:50 am

Divair wrote:
Nazi Flower Power wrote:What do you call those things that you put on your door to mark it as a Jewish home?

I'm working on a fantasy story where there are some Jewish characters and those door thingies have supernatural power. I might have some other questions later.

Mezuzah.


Thank you.
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Ethel mermania
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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Jan 07, 2013 4:43 am

Mizrah wrote:
Menassa wrote:For Jews the act is wrong it is a desire you have to combat... just like any other desire.


I already knew this. It is whether or not gay marriage is something permissible.


depends on the kind of jew you are,

orthodox, charedi, hassid, no
reform, reconstructuonist, yes
conservstive, mostly no, but may be changing. ( a year ago i would have ansered, no)

and to be fair, i know a hassidic rabbi or two, who does support gay marriage, though he would not currently marry a gay couple.
The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion … but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.

The most fundamental problem of politics is not the control of wickedness but the limitation of righteousness. 



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Postby Menassa » Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:13 am

Dilange wrote:
Menassa wrote:I believe Gentile homosexuals should be afforded the same rights as Heterosexual gentiles... I do not however believe the Law is subject to change.


I understand the Law. However, we have to understand that the time it was written in, is a much different time than today. Same thing goes for the Bible as well. We do not do most blood or livestock sacrifices as we did way back then, the Law and tradition has changed. Is it asinine to follow a code of Law that may be obsolete today, or is it what Adonai wants. I remember Adonai being a savior for the people, the common man. How we may feel about love should not be judged and not be determined by us, but by the words of God. How can we say that homosexual marriage cannot happen as the times and feelings change? Can we adapt like we have done in the past?

That's if the Law was written by man, it would be then subject to change here and there up and down, we would look it at the Law as a time-standing Law.

But the Law was written by God and his words are never changing.... also we do not bring animal sacrifice because the Temple is destroyed bot because 'times have changed' I'm fairly certain that if the Temple was around people would still sacrifice animals.

Lastly, I am not saying that the whole of America should outlaw homosexual marriage, I am saying that if you go to a Beis Din, you will not find yourself a certificate there.... and should not.... then again I don't understand why a homosexual person would want recognition from a Beis Din.
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Postby Menassa » Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:14 am

Divair wrote:
Nazi Flower Power wrote:What do you call those things that you put on your door to mark it as a Jewish home?

I'm working on a fantasy story where there are some Jewish characters and those door thingies have supernatural power. I might have some other questions later.

Mezuzah.

Interestingly enough that word literally translates to door post.
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"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Mizrah » Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:30 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Mizrah wrote:
I already knew this. It is whether or not gay marriage is something permissible.


depends on the kind of jew you are,

orthodox, charedi, hassid, no
reform, reconstructuonist, yes
conservstive, mostly no, but may be changing. ( a year ago i would have ansered, no)

and to be fair, i know a hassidic rabbi or two, who does support gay marriage, though he would not currently marry a gay couple.


Try Masorati . . .
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Evraim
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Postby Evraim » Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:51 am

Divair wrote:
Nazi Flower Power wrote:What do you call those things that you put on your door to mark it as a Jewish home?

I'm working on a fantasy story where there are some Jewish characters and those door thingies have supernatural power. I might have some other questions later.

Mezuzah.

Awesome title for a story.

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Ethel mermania
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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Jan 07, 2013 12:42 pm

Mizrah wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
depends on the kind of jew you are,

orthodox, charedi, hassid, no
reform, reconstructuonist, yes
conservstive, mostly no, but may be changing. ( a year ago i would have ansered, no)

and to be fair, i know a hassidic rabbi or two, who does support gay marriage, though he would not currently marry a gay couple.


Try Masorati . . .


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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:39 pm

once again kids, PLEASE STOP FEEDINGS THE TROLLS.

just report them to moderation, dont feed them.

a holocost denier in this thread is a troll, OK?
The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion … but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.

The most fundamental problem of politics is not the control of wickedness but the limitation of righteousness. 



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Postby Menassa » Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:41 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:once again kids, PLEASE STOP FEEDINGS THE TROLLS.

just report them to moderation, dont feed them.

a holocost denier in this thread is a troll, OK?

If the mods will that denial of the Holocaust on this thread.... than so be it... I thought that we could argue back and forth... something like so we could bring idiotic ideas into the light.
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"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:06 pm

Menassa wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:once again kids, PLEASE STOP FEEDINGS THE TROLLS.

just report them to moderation, dont feed them.

a holocost denier in this thread is a troll, OK?

If the mods will that denial of the Holocaust on this thread.... than so be it... I thought that we could argue back and forth... something like so we could bring idiotic ideas into the light.


agrue with them in their thread, this is not a lets piss off the jews thread.

holy christ, can we stop inviting trolls to dinner?

btw your change of topic was good, that was the right answe.
The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion … but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.

The most fundamental problem of politics is not the control of wickedness but the limitation of righteousness. 



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Postby Menassa » Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:24 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Menassa wrote:If the mods will that denial of the Holocaust on this thread.... than so be it... I thought that we could argue back and forth... something like so we could bring idiotic ideas into the light.


agrue with them in their thread, this is not a lets piss off the jews thread.

holy christ, can we stop inviting trolls to dinner?

btw your change of topic was good, that was the right answe.

Thank you I appreciate it... I just feel if we do't allow them to post... they'll just become more hate filled and it will work against us.
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Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Evraim » Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:38 pm

Menassa wrote:Thank you I appreciate it... I just feel if we do't allow them to post... they'll just become more hate filled and it will work against us.

Besides, how else are we supposed to convert good, wholesome Aryans into evil Zionist minions in our quest for world domination?

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Postby Menassa » Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:42 pm

Evraim wrote:
Menassa wrote:Thank you I appreciate it... I just feel if we do't allow them to post... they'll just become more hate filled and it will work against us.

Besides, how else are we supposed to convert good, wholesome Aryans into evil Zionist minions in our quest for world domination?

And if we don't let them post they'll add NS to the map of things controlled by zionists.
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Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Xathranaar » Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:43 pm

Evraim wrote:
Menassa wrote:Thank you I appreciate it... I just feel if we do't allow them to post... they'll just become more hate filled and it will work against us.

Besides, how else are we supposed to convert good, wholesome Aryans into evil Zionist minions in our quest for world domination?

World domination seems to be a mutual interest, maybe start with that?
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Postby Evraim » Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:44 pm

Menassa wrote:And if we don't let them post they'll add NS to the map of things controlled by zionists.

Too late. Everything is controlled by the Zionists. Even the Nazi Party.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:52 pm

Menassa wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
agrue with them in their thread, this is not a lets piss off the jews thread.

holy christ, can we stop inviting trolls to dinner?

btw your change of topic was good, that was the right answe.

Thank you I appreciate it... I just feel if we do't allow them to post... they'll just become more hate filled and it will work against us.


a couple things, haters gonna hate, no matter what we do. its one of the tough parts about being a jew, folks out there are going to hate you for that. to be fair there are lots of other groups that get that treatment, and get it worse; it aint just jews, but it is you too, get use to it.

they can post, make other threads you can argue the holocost to your hearts content. not in this thread. this is the jewish discussion thread to discuss all things jewie. if, you were invited into a protestsnt home would you bring up the non divinity of jesus? tell them that he was a nice jewish boy, and they are all messuganah for worshiping him? of course not. you many ask him to explain the concept of the trinity, but unless you are asked, your not going to say poey on jesus.
The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion … but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.

The most fundamental problem of politics is not the control of wickedness but the limitation of righteousness. 



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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:56 pm

Evraim wrote:
Menassa wrote:Thank you I appreciate it... I just feel if we do't allow them to post... they'll just become more hate filled and it will work against us.

Besides, how else are we supposed to convert good, wholesome Aryans into evil Zionist minions in our quest for world domination?


jesus, i have to explain everything, seduce their women and implant your impure seeds in them, they will spawn hook nosed jews and weakling aryans, that we can dominate and enslave to our needs.

Didnt any of you go to hebrew school?
The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion … but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.

The most fundamental problem of politics is not the control of wickedness but the limitation of righteousness. 



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Postby Dilange » Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:59 pm

Evraim wrote:
Menassa wrote:And if we don't let them post they'll add NS to the map of things controlled by zionists.

Too late. Everything is controlled by the Zionists. Even the Nazi Party.


That was suppose to be a secret.... :(

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Postby Evraim » Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:02 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:jesus, i have to explain everything, seduce their women and implant your impure seeds in them, they will spawn hook nosed jews and weakling aryans, that we can dominate and enslave to our needs.

Didnt any of you go to hebrew school?

I can't impregnate women though... At least, not that I know of... :unsure:

Dilange wrote:That was suppose to be a secret.... :(

So were the Protocols, darling, but the Aryans found out about those. We just have to rely on the fact that nobody will believe them. Our evil plans cannot be stopped.

As fun as mocking the silly bigots is, I think we should change the subject to something cheery.

Favorite stereotypically Jewish meal?
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Postby Menassa » Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:17 pm

Evraim wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:jesus, i have to explain everything, seduce their women and implant your impure seeds in them, they will spawn hook nosed jews and weakling aryans, that we can dominate and enslave to our needs.

Didnt any of you go to hebrew school?

I can't impregnate women though... At least, not that I know of... :unsure:

Dilange wrote:That was suppose to be a secret.... :(

So were the Protocols, darling, but the Aryans found out about those. We just have to rely on the fact that nobody will believe them. Our evil plans cannot be stopped.

As fun as mocking the silly bigots is, I think we should change the subject to something cheery.

Favorite stereotypically Jewish meal?

Keuguel.

Deli roll.

It's like a bolt in a door.
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Their hollow inheritance.
This is my god and I shall exalt him
Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:18 pm

Evraim wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:jesus, i have to explain everything, seduce their women and implant your impure seeds in them, they will spawn hook nosed jews and weakling aryans, that we can dominate and enslave to our needs.

Didnt any of you go to hebrew school?

I can't impregnate women though... At least, not that I know of... :unsure:

Dilange wrote:That was suppose to be a secret.... :(

So were the Protocols, darling, but the Aryans found out about those. We just have to rely on the fact that nobody will believe them. Our evil plans cannot be stopped.

As fun as mocking the silly bigots is, I think we should change the subject to something cheery.

Favorite stereotypically Jewish meal?


your time will come,

pastrami on rye, whole sour pickle.
The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion … but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.

The most fundamental problem of politics is not the control of wickedness but the limitation of righteousness. 



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