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Postby Xathranaar » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:32 am

ArianReich wrote:
Potlimitomaha wrote:Jesus wasn't born on December 25th.


He was born on June 17 4 B.C


More like 1000 A.D. Read Fomenko's New Chronology. The fictional character of Julius Caesar was made up as phantom copy of Jesus's life in the Holy Roman Empire (German First Reich), in order to make it seem like rome was an ancient pre-germanic civilization or culture.

It was not. Most of Antiquity is a fabrication doubling events from Late Middle Ages or Middle Ages, that happened only in Europe.

A NAZI and a New Chronologist.

I think if you believe in either Homeopathy or Scientology as well you get some sort of combo point.
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Postby Menassa » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:34 am

Rentarium wrote:Everything here is Reform or Conservative. :/

I'm Orthodox
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Postby ArianReich » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:35 am

Menassa wrote:That's not even true, the vikings stole their beer hall ideas from the native-american long-houses.... dingus.


How on earth could the vikings have known that indians even exist in amerika? They thought the Atlantic was a lake, and Markland and Vinland were islands, or that they connected to Afrika in the south. Their colonies known in Vinland were originally expanded until there were many tribes of the "Norwegian race" as the Spaniards reffered to the whiter indians they found in Murika.

Due to Imperialism they had to put them off as "albino indians" and not european settlers from Norway, so Spain could take over North and Central New World easily and completely. But the viking hall style was used by them long before the 8th or 10th centuries when they may have reached Amerika. And they could not have learned anything from the indians in amerika, because they were always at war. Leif Eriksson's colony was invaded and destroy by the aggressive locals, so when would they have ever seen their settlements to be able to steal their design?

Vikings had those before amerika was even discovered by them. Or before Europeans ever knew anyone indian lived there.
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Postby ArianReich » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:37 am

Menassa wrote:Which is why little people argue with you.... because of your blatant disregard for logic.


Why do you consider Sloth and Submissiveness for "logic"?

I am not forcing you to think, or become a historian. Or to submit your mental capacities to the alleged discovered of people who may not even exist.

You worship the pseudo science of fictitious individuals. Just names on paper, that's what your sources are.
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Postby Menassa » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:37 am

ArianReich wrote:
Menassa wrote:That's not even true, the vikings stole their beer hall ideas from the native-american long-houses.... dingus.


How on earth could the vikings have known that indians even exist in amerika? They thought the Atlantic was a lake, and Markland and Vinland were islands, or that they connected to Afrika in the south. Their colonies known in Vinland were originally expanded until there were many tribes of the "Norwegian race" as the Spaniards reffered to the whiter indians they found in Murika.

Due to Imperialism they had to put them off as "albino indians" and not european settlers from Norway, so Spain could take over North and Central New World easily and completely. But the viking hall style was used by them long before the 8th or 10th centuries when they may have reached Amerika. And they could not have learned anything from the indians in amerika, because they were always at war. Leif Eriksson's colony was invaded and destroy by the aggressive locals, so when would they have ever seen their settlements to be able to steal their design?

Vikings had those before amerika was even discovered by them. Or before Europeans ever knew anyone indian lived there.

Oh, the Israelites in the first century copied the vikings but the vikings could not find the Indians.... do you even see the words you are typing?
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"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Rentarium » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:37 am

Menassa wrote:
Rentarium wrote:Everything here is Reform or Conservative. :/

I'm Orthodox


I meant locally, sorry. I believe I found an Ortodox congregation, and emailed the Rabbi. It's in an extremely nice area of town. Makes me nervous.
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Postby Vazdania » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:37 am

QUESTION: WHY HAVE JEWS STOPPED SACRIFICING ANIMALS? IS THIS DUE TO THE DESTRUCTION OF THE TEMPLE?
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Postby Menassa » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:38 am

ArianReich wrote:
Menassa wrote:Which is why little people argue with you.... because of your blatant disregard for logic.


Why do you consider Sloth and Submissiveness for "logic"?

I am not forcing you to think, or become a historian. Or to submit your mental capacities to the alleged discovered of people who may not even exist.

You worship the pseudo science of fictitious individuals. Just names on paper, that's what your sources are.

You disregard what everyone holds to be history.... just because you're unique... does not mean you're useful.
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"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Menassa » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:39 am

Vazdania wrote:QUESTION: WHY HAVE JEWS STOPPED SACRIFICING ANIMALS? IS THIS DUE TO THE DESTRUCTION OF THE TEMPLE?

Yes... the only place we are aloud to sacrifice is the Temple and now that's gone.

Rentarium wrote:
Menassa wrote:I'm Orthodox


I meant locally, sorry. I believe I found an Ortodox congregation, and emailed the Rabbi. It's in an extremely nice area of town. Makes me nervous.

Why are you nervous?

Be happy!
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Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby ArianReich » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:40 am

Vazdania wrote:Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved <---extension?


That refers to the 12 Saxon tribes of Europe. All of them can be identified as part of european nations, tribes or populations with specific regions when the Biblical Chosen Volk conquered the known world (Europe and colonies in Afrika or Asia).

And yes, Gott shall save us. But the Rapture foretold the Germans will deny their Pangermanist past and deny their saviour (Der Fuhrer), so even the Elect (Arians) will be deceived.

But in the End, Valhalla is just for us Saxons. Not you egyptians who aren't even the good characters in Norse Mythology or any of my eurocentric, pangermanist books.
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Postby Vazdania » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:41 am

Menassa wrote:
Vazdania wrote:QUESTION: WHY HAVE JEWS STOPPED SACRIFICING ANIMALS? IS THIS DUE TO THE DESTRUCTION OF THE TEMPLE?

Yes... the only place we are aloud to sacrifice is the Temple and now that's gone.

Rentarium wrote:
I meant locally, sorry. I believe I found an Ortodox congregation, and emailed the Rabbi. It's in an extremely nice area of town. Makes me nervous.

Why are you nervous?

Be happy!

-_- this is why we must ready the temple grounds. Remove The Dome on The Rock!!!!!!!!
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Postby Rentarium » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:42 am

Rentarium wrote:
Menassa wrote:I'm Orthodox


I meant locally, sorry. I believe I found an Ortodox congregation, and emailed the Rabbi. It's in an extremely nice area of town. Makes me nervous.

Why are you nervous?

Be happy![/quote]

Just nervous about being looked at as an outsider.


Do you have any book recommendations? I am looking at a book store right now, but I don't recognize half the terms used.
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Postby Menassa » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:43 am

Rentarium wrote:
Rentarium wrote:
I meant locally, sorry. I believe I found an Ortodox congregation, and emailed the Rabbi. It's in an extremely nice area of town. Makes me nervous.

Why are you nervous?

Be happy!


Just nervous about being looked at as an outsider.


Do you have any book recommendations? I am looking at a book store right now, Babur I don't recognize half the terms used.[/quote]
The Tanach... the Talmud.

I don't really know any good conversion books for you to read.... they shouldn't look at you as an outsider and if they do they are in the wrong.

How old are you by the way?
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"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Rentarium » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:45 am

I believe I have a copy of the Tanach my grandmother gave me.


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Postby Menassa » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:46 am

Rentarium wrote:The Tanach... the Talmud.

I don't really know any good conversion books for you to read.... they shouldn't look at you as an outsider and if they do they are in the wrong.

How old are you by the way?


I believe I have a copy of the Tanach my grandmother gave me.


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I wish you much luck and if you have any questions you could ask me or this Rabbi.

But be warned he will shoo you away at first.
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Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby ArianReich » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:46 am

Menassa wrote:
ArianReich wrote:Oh, the Israelites in the first century copied the vikings but the vikings could not find the Indians.... do you even see the words you are typing?


There were no israelites in the first century. That's just a soviet historical fabrication or "misunderstanding". No modern post soviet era studies confirm this blatant lie or mass delusion you blindly worship.

The Punic or Phoenicians from Gaul to Italy to Spain were powerful sea merchants and sailors who colonised north afrika and Levant. But they were not israelites, who were never genetically proven to exist in Palestine.

That's just a legend from European Folklore which meantions the children of Izaax (Isaax in the bible), a Sumerian Hero, whom the Holy Roman Empire citizens knew as Ares, and the Teutonic Goths and their Viking allies as Mars.

The confusion you have is due to Israel sounding a lot like Ares, so you forget the so called biblical "israelites" are actually historically the Children of Ares, a Gothic hero both in their Dacian province (Teutonic fiefdom). Israel means "the one who fought Gott", because Ares was the Gott of Krieg (god of war). You truly have no idea what you're on about, do you?

The Bible is european pagan folklore legends and includes sumerian history originally. All of that happens in Europe, and the Bible describes your people as the Egyptian Enemies of the Chosen Volk of Gott.

There is nothing your lies can do to undo european folklore or historical findings here. Keep trying, tho! :lol2:
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Postby Menassa » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:48 am

ArianReich wrote:
Menassa wrote:


There were no israelites in the first century. That's just a soviet historical fabrication or "misunderstanding". No modern post soviet era studies confirm this blatant lie or mass delusion you blindly worship.

The Punic or Phoenicians from Gaul to Italy to Spain were powerful sea merchants and sailors who colonised north afrika and Levant. But they were not israelites, who were never genetically proven to exist in Palestine.

That's just a legend from European Folklore which meantions the children of Izaax (Isaax in the bible), a Sumerian Hero, whom the Holy Roman Empire citizens knew as Ares, and the Teutonic Goths and their Viking allies as Mars.

The confusion you have is due to Israel sounding a lot like Ares, so you forget the so called biblical "israelites" are actually historically the Children of Ares, a Gothic hero both in their Dacian province (Teutonic fiefdom). Israel means "the one who fought Gott", because Ares was the Gott of Krieg (god of war). You truly have no idea what you're on about, do you?

The Bible is european pagan folklore legends and includes sumerian history originally. All of that happens in Europe, and the Bible describes your people as the Egyptian Enemies of the Chosen Volk of Gott.

There is nothing your lies can do to undo european folklore or historical findings here. Keep trying, tho! :lol2:

Ah so the national revelation at Sainai that is also fabrication then?

The soviets made up that three million saw God.
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"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby ArianReich » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:48 am

Menassa wrote:You disregard what everyone holds to be history.... just because you're unique... does not mean you're useful.


How am I disregarding European History? It is you who is doing just that.

I don't care what "everyone" thinks, because everyone apparently knows less than nothing about Europe's biblical history or Chosen People of God.

This isn't about uniqueness it's about Education. Provide yourself with that.
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Postby Menassa » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:50 am

ArianReich wrote:
Menassa wrote:You disregard what everyone holds to be history.... just because you're unique... does not mean you're useful.


How am I disregarding European History? It is you who is doing just that.

I don't care what "everyone" thinks, because everyone apparently knows less than nothing about Europe's biblical history or Chosen People of God.

This isn't about uniqueness it's about Education. Provide yourself with that.

All hail you!

The one who throws away all that is fact and replaces it with opinion.

It's like arguing with a three-year-old.
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"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Vazdania » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:50 am

The Dome On The Rock is sheequts <- I hope thats the correct usage
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Postby Menassa » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:50 am

Vazdania wrote:The Dome On The Rock is sheequts <- I hope thats the correct usage

Sheekuts?
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"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Vazdania » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:52 am

Menassa wrote:
Vazdania wrote:The Dome On The Rock is sheequts <- I hope thats the correct usage

Sheekuts?

meaning Horrible disgusting an abomination "detested thing"
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Postby Rentarium » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:52 am

I thought Christian Identity was pretty lame, but someone just surpassed the fail.
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Postby ArianReich » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:52 am

Menassa wrote:Ah so the national revelation at Sainai that is also fabrication then?

The soviets made up that three million saw God.


Hollywood forgeries complete with smoke and mirrors? How convincing! Where do I register for the nearest Zionist army of NATO to conquer Palestine, and murder millions just because the juice have clever directors up in LA who can fake God's appearance?

PS: Read about the Phoenicians. They were pale, hazel to reddish haired gauls or vikings, with blue or green eyes as frequent european traits of the period, and their wars against the "romans". Only they had the viking ship building and raiding capabilities to sail to Levant and colonise it.

And Levant is not where the lands of Israel were, either. You're just reading a bunch of lies, which are uneuropean and narrow minded.
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Postby Menassa » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:53 am

Vazdania wrote:
Menassa wrote:Sheekuts?

meaning Horroable disgusting an abomination "dested thing"

Oh Toaivah.... like in leveticus... Toaivah he... it is an abomination.
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"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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