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Menassa
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Postby Menassa » Tue Jan 01, 2013 2:49 am

Xathranaar wrote:
Vazdania wrote:That awkward Moment when you're devoutly Jewish and you have people coming to your door to convert you to Christianity.

Naw. He'll just make them feel really guilty about it, and they'll go home and re-think their lives.

It will be to the benefit of us all, ultimately.

Unfortunately that does not work on the internet.
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Postby Xathranaar » Tue Jan 01, 2013 2:50 am

Menassa wrote:
Xathranaar wrote:Naw. He'll just make them feel really guilty about it, and they'll go home and re-think their lives.

It will be to the benefit of us all, ultimately.

Unfortunately that does not work on the internet.

It's all in the rapid delivery and tone of voice.
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Postby Vazdania » Tue Jan 01, 2013 2:51 am

Menassa wrote:
Xathranaar wrote:Naw. He'll just make them feel really guilty about it, and they'll go home and re-think their lives.

It will be to the benefit of us all, ultimately.

Unfortunately that does not work on the internet.

I don't believe I've attempted to convert you :D
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Postby Menassa » Tue Jan 01, 2013 2:51 am

Xathranaar wrote:
Menassa wrote:Unfortunately that does not work on the internet.

It's all in the rapid delivery and tone of voice.

Which with my beard, kippah and always-in-dress-shirt look, sends 'em flying
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Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Menassa
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Postby Menassa » Tue Jan 01, 2013 2:52 am

Vazdania wrote:
Menassa wrote:Unfortunately that does not work on the internet.

I don't believe I've attempted to convert you :D

Don't try.
Radical Monotheist
Their hollow inheritance.
This is my god and I shall exalt him
Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Vazdania » Tue Jan 01, 2013 2:58 am

Menassa wrote:
Vazdania wrote:I don't believe I've attempted to convert you :D

Don't try.

Pff, don't need to. YOUR JEWISH. I'm a dual covenant Theologian , who professes that Jewish people are God's chosen people. In no way should you change! o_o well except for maybe the fact that Israel is to passive....BUT די האר סמיילז אויף איר So yea...
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Menassa
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Postby Menassa » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:01 am

Vazdania wrote:
Menassa wrote:Don't try.

Pff, don't need to. YOUR JEWISH. I'm a dual covenant Theologian , who professes that Jewish people are God's chosen people. In no way should you change! o_o well except for maybe the fact that Israel is to passive....BUT די האר סמיילז אויף איר So yea...

Our Lords are different.
Radical Monotheist
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Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Vazdania » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:03 am

Menassa wrote:
Vazdania wrote:Pff, don't need to. YOUR JEWISH. I'm a dual covenant Theologian , who professes that Jewish people are God's chosen people. In no way should you change! o_o well except for maybe the fact that Israel is to passive....BUT די האר סמיילז אויף איר So yea...

Our Lords are different.

Our God isn't.
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We Monarchists Stand With The Morals Of The Past, As We Hatch Impossible Treasons Against The Present.

They Have No Voice; So I will Speak For Them. The Right To Life Is Fundamental To All Humans Regardless Of How Developed They Are. Pro-Woman. Pro-Child. Pro-Life.

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Menassa
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Postby Menassa » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:04 am

Vazdania wrote:
Menassa wrote:Our Lords are different.

Our God isn't.

You may worship the same God I do but you use an intermediary... which by proxy means that the original God cannot do everything.
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Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby ArianReich » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:10 am

New Nassrau wrote:The Jewish people as a whole had very little, but accomplished great things

#Why did I just go there


Maybe a compulsory liar? :rofl:

When have Juice EVER accomplished ANYTHING?
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Postby Menassa » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:11 am

ArianReich wrote:
New Nassrau wrote:The Jewish people as a whole had very little, but accomplished great things

#Why did I just go there


Maybe a compulsory liar? :rofl:

When have Juice EVER accomplished ANYTHING?

Hey that's not fair the Juice are a very proud and fruity people!

Their orange variants make my breakfast!
Radical Monotheist
Their hollow inheritance.
This is my god and I shall exalt him
Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Vazdania » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:12 am

Menassa wrote:
Vazdania wrote:Our God isn't.

You may worship the same God I do but you use an intermediary... which by proxy means that the original God cannot do everything.


The original God can do everything. But I believe HE has chosen his Son to allow an easier reconciliation of sin, that many more may be closer to him. That his Son is the final Judge but will say to the Father "This is my faithful servant father, please allow him into Heaven for he has followed and accepted my word." <- or something to that extent. Jews obviously have a Covenant with God, He'll be judging you.
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Postby Menassa » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:13 am

Vazdania wrote:
Menassa wrote:You may worship the same God I do but you use an intermediary... which by proxy means that the original God cannot do everything.


The original God can do everything. But I believe HE has chosen his Son to allow an easier reconciliation of sin, that many more may be closer to him. That his Son is the final Judge but will say to the Father "This is my faithful servant father, please allow him into Heaven for he has followed and accepted my word." <- or something to that extent. Jews obviously have a Covenant with God, He'll be judging you.

Right, and I don't see why Gentiles need that variant of Jesus where Jews don't... if he can do it for one peoples he can do it for all.
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Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby ArianReich » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:19 am

Zionism is just Egyptian Revivalism, since your Imperialism against Europe failed miserably, and biblically. Pick up the pieces after Europeans conquered your egyptian hides and stole Egypt from you. :lol2:

Messianism is the Egyptian tradition of worshiping your Pharaoh like some kind of God on Earth.

It has nothing to do with the Viking Messiah, Jesus Christ.

Also I have some questions, why do you try to steal every Great German away from us? I mean Adolf is from the Holy Roman Empire's imperial house of Pendragon, descendent of Arthur Pendragon. And you try to belittle this great national eurocentric hero to an extinct religion?

I won't even go into Jesus's Last Supper where the long table with 13 people on one side of it clearly shows the Viking Beer Hall table architecture which only the vikings in Europe had and used historically. Only viking tables were that long back then.

Or Adolf Pendragon's Beer Hall Putsch? Both of them had one of their famous moments inside a Viking style Beer Hall with ridiculously long tables. Both of them heroes of the Germanic Volk.

On what clear evidence do you try to claim they were Egyptian instead of Volkisch? Because just repeating it over and over again, will not prove they were not Germans.

Or do you attempt that with every Great German? Try to fabricate lies that they were not germans, but egyptians? R00d.
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Postby Vazdania » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:19 am

Menassa wrote:
Vazdania wrote:
The original God can do everything. But I believe HE has chosen his Son to allow an easier reconciliation of sin, that many more may be closer to him. That his Son is the final Judge but will say to the Father "This is my faithful servant father, please allow him into Heaven for he has followed and accepted my word." <- or something to that extent. Jews obviously have a Covenant with God, He'll be judging you.

Right, and I don't see why Gentiles need that variant of Jesus where Jews don't... if he can do it for one peoples he can do it for all.

you COULD accept Jesus, BUT, as you are Jewish there is only need for the Father. Jesus will act as a witness to the Gentiles before the Father.
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We Monarchists Stand With The Morals Of The Past, As We Hatch Impossible Treasons Against The Present.

They Have No Voice; So I will Speak For Them. The Right To Life Is Fundamental To All Humans Regardless Of How Developed They Are. Pro-Woman. Pro-Child. Pro-Life.

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Postby Menassa » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:21 am

Vazdania wrote:
Menassa wrote:Right, and I don't see why Gentiles need that variant of Jesus where Jews don't... if he can do it for one peoples he can do it for all.

you COULD accept Jesus, BUT, as you are Jewish there is only need for the Father. Jesus will act as a witness to the Gentiles before the Father.

Why does the father only respond to the Jews?
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This is my god and I shall exalt him
Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Menassa » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:22 am

ArianReich wrote:Zionism is just Egyptian Revivalism, since your Imperialism against Europe failed miserably, and biblically. Pick up the pieces after Europeans conquered your egyptian hides and stole Egypt from you. :lol2:

Messianism is the Egyptian tradition of worshiping your Pharaoh like some kind of God on Earth.

It has nothing to do with the Viking Messiah, Jesus Christ.

Also I have some questions, why do you try to steal every Great German away from us? I mean Adolf is from the Holy Roman Empire's imperial house of Pendragon, descendent of Arthur Pendragon. And you try to belittle this great national eurocentric hero to an extinct religion?

I won't even go into Jesus's Last Supper where the long table with 13 people on one side of it clearly shows the Viking Beer Hall table architecture which only the vikings in Europe had and used historically. Only viking tables were that long back then.

Or Adolf Pendragon's Beer Hall Putsch? Both of them had one of their famous moments inside a Viking style Beer Hall with ridiculously long tables. Both of them heroes of the Germanic Volk.

On what clear evidence do you try to claim they were Egyptian instead of Volkisch? Because just repeating it over and over again, will not prove they were not Germans.

Or do you attempt that with every Great German? Try to fabricate lies that they were not germans, but egyptians? R00d.

That's not even true, the vikings stole their beer hall ideas from the native-american long-houses.... dingus.
Last edited by Menassa on Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:22 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Their hollow inheritance.
This is my god and I shall exalt him
Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Vazdania » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:22 am

Menassa wrote:
Vazdania wrote:you COULD accept Jesus, BUT, as you are Jewish there is only need for the Father. Jesus will act as a witness to the Gentiles before the Father.

Why does the father only respond to the Jews?

The Father doesn't ONLY respond to the Jews. The Father responds to everyone. It is because of the Abrahamic Covenant that Jews don't necessarily need Jesus.
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Postby ArianReich » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:22 am

Potlimitomaha wrote:Jesus wasn't born on December 25th.


He was born on June 17 4 B.C


More like 1000 A.D. Read Fomenko's New Chronology. The fictional character of Julius Caesar was made up as phantom copy of Jesus's life in the Holy Roman Empire (German First Reich), in order to make it seem like rome was an ancient pre-germanic civilization or culture.

It was not. Most of Antiquity is a fabrication doubling events from Late Middle Ages or Middle Ages, that happened only in Europe.
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Postby Menassa » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:23 am

Vazdania wrote:
Menassa wrote:Why does the father only respond to the Jews?

The Father doesn't ONLY respond to the Jews. The Father responds to everyone. It is because of the Abrahamic Covenant that Jews don't necessarily need Jesus.

That covenant only ensure's we'll be an everlasting people and has nothing to do with saving.
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Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Menassa » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:24 am

ArianReich wrote:
Potlimitomaha wrote:Jesus wasn't born on December 25th.


He was born on June 17 4 B.C


More like 1000 A.D. Read Fomenko's New Chronology. The fictional character of Julius Caesar was made up as phantom copy of Jesus's life in the Holy Roman Empire (German First Reich), in order to make it seem like rome was an ancient pre-germanic civilization or culture.

It was not. Most of Antiquity is a fabrication doubling events from Late Middle Ages or Middle Ages, that happened only in Europe.

Which is why little people argue with you.... because of your blatant disregard for logic.
Radical Monotheist
Their hollow inheritance.
This is my god and I shall exalt him
Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Vazdania » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:27 am

Menassa wrote:
Vazdania wrote:The Father doesn't ONLY respond to the Jews. The Father responds to everyone. It is because of the Abrahamic Covenant that Jews don't necessarily need Jesus.

That covenant only ensure's we'll be an everlasting people and has nothing to do with saving.

Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved <---extension?
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Postby ArianReich » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:29 am

Menassa wrote:Hey that's not fair the Juice are a very proud and fruity people!

Their orange variants make my breakfast!


If by fruity you mean gay, I have seen a ton of media articles and surveys to support this vision.

I grow oranges in my backyard, in Europe. Who needs Orange Juice when you have European Oranges!
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Postby Menassa » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:29 am

Vazdania wrote:
Menassa wrote:That covenant only ensure's we'll be an everlasting people and has nothing to do with saving.

Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved <---extension?

That part of Romans is dealing largely with a proof-text from the old Testament.
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"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Rentarium » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:30 am

Everything here is Reform or Conservative. :/
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