Jewish Discussion Thread

[Menassa]

Classic person from a family whose daughters go out into the street to buy grain and sell it for barley.

May I ask if the daughters in your family go out into the street to buy grain and sell it for barley?

Hah the daughters of my family go out into the street and take two prutahs worth of barley and turn it into 100 Kesef Dinarim of grain!

[Evraim]

Hah the daughters of my family go out into the street and take two prutahs worth of barley and turn it into 100 Kesef Dinarim of grain!

How delightfully intelligent of them!

[Menassa]

Hah the daughters of my family go out into the street and take two prutahs worth of barley and turn it into 100 Kesef Dinarim of grain!

How delightfully intelligent of them!

Yes it is!

[Evraim]

Yes it is!

Do you ever sell grain, Menassa? Or do you glance at your texts all day?

[Menassa]

Yes it is!

Do you ever sell grain, Menassa? Or do you glance at your texts all day?

I learn at the houses of said learning while others go out into the market and weave and spin and sell for me.

[ALMF]

It just so happens I am both a jew and an atheist (well naturalist but lets not be picky).

[Xathranaar]

Are you ever going to ask serious questions or just keep giving him a headache.

Do you have an answer to my question, or do you concede the point?

Does thinking about YHWH give you a headache? If so, you may want to find another God.

I don't know... I quite like my god, but thinking about him causes blood to spout from my eyes.

[Evraim]

Do you ever sell grain, Menassa? Or do you glance at your texts all day?

I learn at the houses of said learning while others go out into the market and weave and spin and sell for me.

Ah, a frum bokher!

It just so happens I am both a jew and an atheist (well naturalist but lets not be picky).

Do you mean a deist? If so, you might fit in well with the Reconstructionists.

[Menassa]

I learn at the houses of said learning while others go out into the market and weave and spin and sell for me.

Ah, a frum bokher!

Yes and with my Yiddishkeit I shall uplift the whole city!

[Menassa]

It just so happens I am both a jew and an atheist (well naturalist but lets not be picky).

Your mother is Jewish?

[Evraim]

Ah, a frum bokher!

Yes and with my Yiddishkeit I shall uplift the whole city!

Well, depending on where you live, it might be rather easy to uplift the whole city, no?

[ALMF]

It just so happens I am both a jew and an atheist (well naturalist but lets not be picky).

Do you mean a deist? If so, you might fit in well with the Reconstructionists.

No as a naturalist, I bleave in the IMPOSSIBILITY of the exastance of supernatural/transcendental/et al. phanomin of any kind.

[ALMF]

It just so happens I am both a jew and an atheist (well naturalist but lets not be picky).

Your mother is Jewish?

correct

[Evraim]

No as a naturalist, I bleave in the IMPOSSIBILITY of the exastance of supernatural/transcendental/et al. phanomin of any kind.

That doesn't necessarily clash with Deism. How do you define transcendence?

[Menassa]

Your mother is Jewish?

correct

How connected are you, would you say with Jewish culture?

[ALMF]

No as a naturalist, I bleave in the IMPOSSIBILITY of the exastance of supernatural/transcendental/et al. phanomin of any kind.

That doesn't necessarily clash with Deism. How do you define transcendence?

transcendent phanominon is any object, action, ect (noun, verb, ect) that is in any way not in a a subset of time/space concordats. That is 'there are were when concordats were it is located and it is only located among them' is a prerequisite of something existing. Gravity exists (in ALL time/ spaces: a subset) but "God" as clasicly defined is outside if time and space, or before as most deist and Aristotle define it, therefor is transcendental and impossible to exist. The same for all magic, mystical phonionion, et al except as room is made by Clarke's 3rd law.

[ALMF]

correct

How connected are you, would you say with Jewish culture?

mostly thrue my grandmother, I have participated in most of the holidays (althoe any spacific holiday not most years) and have read a translation of the tora. However, I have only read a smattering of the Talmood, rightings of Hoel, et al. I also was not initiated into the temple: barmitsfa or any other entrance ritual at any level.

[Menassa]

How connected are you, would you say with Jewish culture?

mostly thrue my grandmother, I have participated in most of the holidays (althoe any spacific holiday not most years) and have read a translation of the tora. However, I have only read a smattering of the Talmood, rightings of Hoel, et al. I also was not initiated into the temple: barmitsfa or any other entrance ritual at any level.

After months of decoding scholars have come up with this?

Writings of Hoel? Did you mean hillel?

You don't need to be initiated into a Temple.

[Evraim]

That doesn't necessarily clash with Deism. How do you define transcendence?

transcendent phanominon is any object, action, ect (noun, verb, ect) that is in any way not in a a subset of time/space concordats. That is 'there are were when concordats were it is located and it is only located among them' is a prerequisite of something existing. Gravity exists (in ALL time/ spaces: a subset) but "God" as clasicly defined is outside if time and space, or before as most deist and Aristotle define it, therefor is transcendental and impossible to exist. The same for all magic, mystical phonionion, et al except as room is made by Clarke's 3rd law.

I define transcendence in a slightly different matter. To me, it is the property of an object of being comparatively beyond another object. In this instance, one does not necessarily have to refer to space-time when mentioning the word transcendent.

A deist is simply an individual who believes that the existence of a G-d may be proven through reason and observation. Two forms of deism, pantheism and panentheism, essentially equate G-d with nature. As such, it is possible for a deist to maintain a naturalistic world view. However, not all deists do so - just as not all naturalists are deists. That said, I believe you've clarified your position enough, so I won't harass you any further with my silly inquiries.

[Arian Reich]

Jews don't exist.

If you want to get Scriptural, read some European French books like "The Inequality of Human Races" by some french aristocrat, and you will find that the Biblical Chosen Race is that of the Saxons (children of Isaax), of which Jesus was of the Iudex (Judge) tribe of Saxons.

Hermann was of a Sumerian City, and he's the ancestor of Germans.

That's the Bible basically, if you want to get European about it.

The modern semitic tribes like arabs or hebrews are offshots of the Egyptians, who were the original semites in the Bible. But they were not chosen or divine, rather they were the Enemy of the Chosen Saxon and Germanic people.

Ishmael is the ancestor of non egyptian semites, such as Hebrew or Arabs. And they were not chosen, rather foretold by the Angel / God to Hagar the egyptian mother slave who bore him and their races implicitly, that they will be like wild mules, and other antisemitic statements which make the Bible such a fun book to read to a bunch of up tight politically correct retards.

FACT: Arabs or Jews as race, did not exist in the Bible. That only happens later on after Ishmael has more and more descendents. Before them, there is only Pagan Germanic / Saxonic (Scythian-Celtic) tribes who ruled the Ancient World, and the Egyptians who are the ancestors of the Semitic tribes or Afrikan - Negroid mulatto subraces of the Egyptian Afrikan root.

And there is no more an Arab religion than there is a Jewish religion. Those are all just delusions forged by bored British archaeologists who wanted to "get rich or die trying" and made up this fictional people or religions to boost their tourism and museum visitors, and their fame / reputation, between sessions of intense tea drinking. Spiked with opium no doubt, judging by the fact they seem to have create a false state to match their false theory.

[Menassa]

Jews don't exist.

If you want to get Scriptural, read some European French books like "The Inequality of Human Races" by some french aristocrat, and you will find that the Biblical Chosen Race is that of the Saxons (children of Isaax), of which Jesus was of the Iudex (Judge) tribe of Saxons.

Hermann was of a Sumerian City, and he's the ancestor of Germans.

That's the Bible basically, if you want to get European about it.

The modern semitic tribes like arabs or hebrews are offshots of the Egyptians, who were the original semites in the Bible. But they were not chosen or divine, rather they were the Enemy of the Chosen Saxon and Germanic people.

Ishmael is the ancestor of non egyptian semites, such as Hebrew or Arabs. And they were not chosen, rather foretold by the Angel / God to Hagar the egyptian mother slave who bore him and their races implicitly, that they will be like wild mules, and other antisemitic statements which make the Bible such a fun book to read to a bunch of up tight politically correct retards.

FACT: Arabs or Jews as race, did not exist in the Bible. That only happens later on after Ishmael has more and more descendents. Before them, there is only Pagan Germanic / Saxonic (Scythian-Celtic) tribes who ruled the Ancient World, and the Egyptians who are the ancestors of the Semitic tribes or Afrikan - Negroid mulatto subraces of the Egyptian Afrikan root.

And there is no more an Arab religion than there is a Jewish religion. Those are all just delusions forged by bored British archaeologists who wanted to "get rich or die trying" and made up this fictional people or religions to boost their tourism and museum visitors, and their fame / reputation, between sessions of intense tea drinking. Spiked with opium no doubt, judging by the fact they seem to have create a false state to match their false theory.

Well goddamn... I might as well rethink My whole existence and thousands of years of History and fact the Jews brought to the world.... you've truly show me the light good sir.

[Grave_n_idle]

Jews don't exist.

If you want to get Scriptural, read some European French books like "The Inequality of Human Races" by some french aristocrat, and you will find that the Biblical Chosen Race is that of the Saxons (children of Isaax), of which Jesus was of the Iudex (Judge) tribe of Saxons.

Hermann was of a Sumerian City, and he's the ancestor of Germans.

That's the Bible basically, if you want to get European about it.

The modern semitic tribes like arabs or hebrews are offshots of the Egyptians, who were the original semites in the Bible. But they were not chosen or divine, rather they were the Enemy of the Chosen Saxon and Germanic people.

Ishmael is the ancestor of non egyptian semites, such as Hebrew or Arabs. And they were not chosen, rather foretold by the Angel / God to Hagar the egyptian mother slave who bore him and their races implicitly, that they will be like wild mules, and other antisemitic statements which make the Bible such a fun book to read to a bunch of up tight politically correct retards.

FACT: Arabs or Jews as race, did not exist in the Bible. That only happens later on after Ishmael has more and more descendents. Before them, there is only Pagan Germanic / Saxonic (Scythian-Celtic) tribes who ruled the Ancient World, and the Egyptians who are the ancestors of the Semitic tribes or Afrikan - Negroid mulatto subraces of the Egyptian Afrikan root.

And there is no more an Arab religion than there is a Jewish religion. Those are all just delusions forged by bored British archaeologists who wanted to "get rich or die trying" and made up this fictional people or religions to boost their tourism and museum visitors, and their fame / reputation, between sessions of intense tea drinking. Spiked with opium no doubt, judging by the fact they seem to have create a false state to match their false theory.

Good try, but wrong on the details.

[Menassa]

Jews don't exist.

If you want to get Scriptural, read some European French books like "The Inequality of Human Races" by some french aristocrat, and you will find that the Biblical Chosen Race is that of the Saxons (children of Isaax), of which Jesus was of the Iudex (Judge) tribe of Saxons.

Hermann was of a Sumerian City, and he's the ancestor of Germans.

That's the Bible basically, if you want to get European about it.

The modern semitic tribes like arabs or hebrews are offshots of the Egyptians, who were the original semites in the Bible. But they were not chosen or divine, rather they were the Enemy of the Chosen Saxon and Germanic people.

Ishmael is the ancestor of non egyptian semites, such as Hebrew or Arabs. And they were not chosen, rather foretold by the Angel / God to Hagar the egyptian mother slave who bore him and their races implicitly, that they will be like wild mules, and other antisemitic statements which make the Bible such a fun book to read to a bunch of up tight politically correct retards.

FACT: Arabs or Jews as race, did not exist in the Bible. That only happens later on after Ishmael has more and more descendents. Before them, there is only Pagan Germanic / Saxonic (Scythian-Celtic) tribes who ruled the Ancient World, and the Egyptians who are the ancestors of the Semitic tribes or Afrikan - Negroid mulatto subraces of the Egyptian Afrikan root.

And there is no more an Arab religion than there is a Jewish religion. Those are all just delusions forged by bored British archaeologists who wanted to "get rich or die trying" and made up this fictional people or religions to boost their tourism and museum visitors, and their fame / reputation, between sessions of intense tea drinking. Spiked with opium no doubt, judging by the fact they seem to have create a false state to match their false theory.

Good try, but wrong on the details.

Why use that, when you have this?

[Evraim]

Jews don't exist.

A rather bold claim considering the millions of people who claim to be Jewish and practice the Jewish religion.

If you want to get Scriptural, read some European French books like "The Inequality of Human Races" by some french aristocrat, and you will find that the Biblical Chosen Race is that of the Saxons (children of Isaax), of which Jesus was of the Iudex (Judge) tribe of Saxons.

An Essay on the Inequality of the Human Races was essentially a racialist treatise which made numerous unsubstantiated and unscientific assertions regarding the ethnic origins of particular societies and the relative superiority of a nonexistent Aryan race over all non-Aryan races. It is, needless to say, not credible.

Hermann was of a Sumerian City, and he's the ancestor of Germans.

What evidence do you possess to grant this claim any measure of legitimacy? Indo-Europeans had been living in what is today Germany before the Sumerian civilization even began.

That's the Bible basically, if you want to get European about it.

I believe you excluded the entirety of the Tanakh.

The modern semitic tribes like arabs or hebrews are offshots of the Egyptians,

The Semitic tribes inhabited the region of Mesopotamia. The Egyptians were a rather distinct ethnic group. Naturally, this is not a matter of gratuitous importance, I simply wanted to point out that you are incorrect.

who were the original semites in the Bible. But they were not chosen or divine, rather they were the Enemy of the Chosen Saxon and Germanic people.

What about the parts where G-d calls the Jews (Yehudim) his people?

Ishmael is the ancestor of non egyptian semites, such as Hebrew or Arabs. And they were not chosen, rather foretold by the Angel / God to Hagar the egyptian mother slave who bore him and their races implicitly, that they will be like wild mules, and other antisemitic statements which make the Bible such a fun book to read to a bunch of up tight politically correct retards.

I recall that being a reference to the bellicose and pastoral lifestyle of Ishmael and his progeny. Additionally, Hagar was an Egyptian according to the text - as was Ishmael's wife.

FACT: Arabs or Jews as race, did not exist in the Bible. That only happens later on after Ishmael has more and more descendents. Before them, there is only Pagan Germanic / Saxonic (Scythian-Celtic) tribes who ruled the Ancient World, and the Egyptians who are the ancestors of the Semitic tribes or Afrikan - Negroid mulatto subraces of the Egyptian Afrikan root.

Every single fact and story disagrees with this conclusion.

And there is no more an Arab religion than there is a Jewish religion.

Arab is an ethnic classification, not a religion. There is a Jewish religion. Most of the people in this thread practice it.

Those are all just delusions forged by bored British archaeologists who wanted to "get rich or die trying" and made up this fictional people or religions to boost their tourism and museum visitors, and their fame / reputation, between sessions of intense tea drinking. Spiked with opium no doubt, judging by the fact they seem to have create a false state to match their false theory.

Do you have any evidence of this?

[Ethel mermania]

How connected are you, would you say with Jewish culture?

mostly thrue my grandmother, I have participated in most of the holidays (althoe any spacific holiday not most years) and have read a translation of the tora. However, I have only read a smattering of the Talmood, rightings of Hoel, et al. I also was not initiated into the temple: barmitsfa or any other entrance ritual at any level.

then your not a jew. nothing wrong with that mind you, but circumcision and believing are part of the whole package.