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Menassa
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Postby Menassa » Sun Dec 23, 2012 7:34 pm

Evraim wrote:
Menassa wrote:No not really..... Apikores.

Says the non-religious intellectual Jew. :p

Is your name truly Yenkel, by the way?

Eh, I've become more religious with the passing of time.

Yenkel? No.
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Postby Evraim » Sun Dec 23, 2012 7:37 pm

Menassa wrote:Eh, I've become more religious with the passing of time.

Yenkel? No.

I've done much the same, though I'm still a dirty heathen. It could be worse. I could eat bacon and drink milk at breakfast. That's actually quite common around where I live. For the non-Jews, I mean.

That's unfortunate. Yenkel would be a hilarious name. :hug:

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Postby Menassa » Sun Dec 23, 2012 7:38 pm

Evraim wrote:
Menassa wrote:Eh, I've become more religious with the passing of time.

Yenkel? No.

I've done much the same, though I'm still a dirty heathen. It could be worse. I could eat bacon and drink milk at breakfast. That's actually quite common around where I live. For the non-Jews, I mean.

That's unfortunate. Yenkel would be a hilarious name. :hug:

You're less of a heathen.... like more of a Raish Lakish than a Acher

Lamah?
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Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Evraim
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Postby Evraim » Sun Dec 23, 2012 7:47 pm

Menassa wrote:You're less of a heathen.... like more of a Raish Lakish than a Acher

Lamah?

I'll take that as a compliment... :eyebrow:

Pardon me?

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Postby Menassa » Sun Dec 23, 2012 7:48 pm

Evraim wrote:
Menassa wrote:You're less of a heathen.... like more of a Raish Lakish than a Acher

Lamah?

I'll take that as a compliment... :eyebrow:

Pardon me?

You should.

Why would Yankel be a good name?
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Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Scholencia » Sun Dec 23, 2012 8:18 pm

What do you think about Palestine? In my opinion, it doesnt belong to israel.

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Postby Menassa » Sun Dec 23, 2012 8:21 pm

Scholencia wrote:What do you think about Palestine? In my opinion, it doesnt belong to israel.

Well spot on there partner I think it does.

I also think some of the things you are saying just to be argumentative... because if you believe Jesus is the Messiah you may believe Israel belongs to the Jews.
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Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Ethel mermania » Sun Dec 23, 2012 8:22 pm

Scholencia wrote:What do you think about Palestine? In my opinion, it doesnt belong to israel.


There are plenty of other places to discuss this, this thread is about jewishness, not israel.
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Postby Evraim » Sun Dec 23, 2012 8:28 pm

Menassa wrote:You should.

Why would Yankel be a good name?

You compliment just like my brother. It confounds me. :p

I said it would be an amusing name. It sounds strange to my American ears. It's also a rather warm name.

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Postby Menassa » Sun Dec 23, 2012 8:30 pm

Evraim wrote:
Menassa wrote:You should.

Why would Yankel be a good name?

You compliment just like my brother. It confounds me. :p

I said it would be an amusing name. It sounds strange to my American ears. It's also a rather warm name.

Is your brother religious? A regular old Yeshiva Bochur

Oh yeah! When we were in the academy of Mar Shmuel you were in the back playing with wooden Tokens!


BURNED!
Radical Monotheist
Their hollow inheritance.
This is my god and I shall exalt him
Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Evraim
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Postby Evraim » Sun Dec 23, 2012 8:41 pm

Menassa wrote:Is your brother religious? A regular old Yeshiva Bochur

He's actually exceedingly frei. I look like Moishe next to him. :lol:

It's just he gives rather terrible compliments.

Menassa wrote:Oh yeah! When we were in the academy of Mar Shmuel you were in the back playing with wooden Tokens!


BURNED!

I was never even there. :p

BURNED!

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Postby Menassa » Sun Dec 23, 2012 8:43 pm

Evraim wrote:
Menassa wrote:Is your brother religious? A regular old Yeshiva Bochur

He's actually exceedingly frei. I look like Moishe next to him. :lol:

It's just he gives rather terrible compliments.

Menassa wrote:Oh yeah! When we were in the academy of Mar Shmuel you were in the back playing with wooden Tokens!


BURNED!

I was never even there. :p

BURNED!

Ooh a little Shunina aren't you.... well that's nice coming from a family whose daughters go out into the street to by grain and sell it for barley!

I'm on fire.
Radical Monotheist
Their hollow inheritance.
This is my god and I shall exalt him
Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Evraim
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Postby Evraim » Sun Dec 23, 2012 8:57 pm

Menassa wrote:Ooh a little Shunina aren't you....

Pardon me? The reference flew entirely over my head.

Menassa wrote:well that's nice coming from a family whose daughters go out into the street to by grain and sell it for barley!

In the street?

Menassa wrote:I'm on fire.

So long as you acknowledge that I lit the fire, I shan't complain.
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Menassa
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Postby Menassa » Sun Dec 23, 2012 8:59 pm

Evraim wrote:
Menassa wrote:Ooh a little Shunina aren't you....

Pardon me? The reference flew entirely over my head.

Menassa wrote:well that's nice coming from a family whose daughters go out into the street to by grain and sell it for barley!

In the street?

Menassa wrote:I'm on fire.

So long as you acknowledge that I lit the fire, I shan't complain.

It means smart one.

Yeah the streets.... of Tivera.

The fire was lit by me unlike you... who lights fires on the Sabbath for the Roman Legions.
Radical Monotheist
Their hollow inheritance.
This is my god and I shall exalt him
Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Ethel mermania » Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:02 pm

Menassa wrote:
Evraim wrote:Pardon me? The reference flew entirely over my head.


In the street?


So long as you acknowledge that I lit the fire, I shan't complain.

It means smart one.

Yeah the streets.... of Tivera.

The fire was lit by me unlike you... who lights fires on the Sabbath for the Roman Legions.


The interior of MATTHIAS'S HOUSE. A darkened room with a very conspiratorial atmosphere. REG and STAN are seated at a table at one end of the room. FRANCIS, dressed in Activist gear — black robes and a red sash around his head — is standing by a plan on the wall. He is addressing an audience of about eight MASKED ActivistS. Their faces are partially hidden.


Reg:
All right, Stan. Don't labour the point. And what have they ever given us in return?
Xerxes:
The aqueduct.
Reg:
Oh yeah, yeah they gave us that. Yeah. That's true.
Masked Activist:
And the sanitation!
Stan:
Oh yes... sanitation, Reg, you remember what the city used to be like.
Reg:
All right, I'll grant you that the aqueduct and the sanitation are two things that the Romans have done...
Matthias:
And the roads...
Reg:
(sharply) Well yes obviously the roads... the roads go without saying. But apart from the aqueduct, the sanitation and the roads...
Another Masked Activist:
Irrigation...
Other Masked Voices:
Medicine... Education... Health...
Reg:
Yes... all right, fair enough...
Activist Near Front:
And the wine...
Omnes:
Oh yes! True!
Francis:
Yeah. That's something we'd really miss if the Romans left, Reg.
Masked Activist at Back:
Public baths!
Stan:
And it's safe to walk in the streets at night now.
Francis:
Yes, they certainly know how to keep order... (general nodding)... let's face it, they're the only ones who could in a place like this.

(more general murmurs of agreement)
Reg:
All right... all right... but apart from better sanitation and medicine and education and irrigation and public health and roads and a freshwater system and baths and public order... what have the Romans done for us?
Xerxes:
Brought peace!
Reg:
(very angry, he's not having a good meeting at all) What!? Oh... (scornfully) Peace, yes... shut up!
The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion … but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.

The most fundamental problem of politics is not the control of wickedness but the limitation of righteousness. 



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Menassa
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Postby Menassa » Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:05 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Menassa wrote:It means smart one.

Yeah the streets.... of Tivera.

The fire was lit by me unlike you... who lights fires on the Sabbath for the Roman Legions.


The interior of MATTHIAS'S HOUSE. A darkened room with a very conspiratorial atmosphere. REG and STAN are seated at a table at one end of the room. FRANCIS, dressed in Activist gear — black robes and a red sash around his head — is standing by a plan on the wall. He is addressing an audience of about eight MASKED ActivistS. Their faces are partially hidden.


Reg:
All right, Stan. Don't labour the point. And what have they ever given us in return?
Xerxes:
The aqueduct.
Reg:
Oh yeah, yeah they gave us that. Yeah. That's true.
Masked Activist:
And the sanitation!
Stan:
Oh yes... sanitation, Reg, you remember what the city used to be like.
Reg:
All right, I'll grant you that the aqueduct and the sanitation are two things that the Romans have done...
Matthias:
And the roads...
Reg:
(sharply) Well yes obviously the roads... the roads go without saying. But apart from the aqueduct, the sanitation and the roads...
Another Masked Activist:
Irrigation...
Other Masked Voices:
Medicine... Education... Health...
Reg:
Yes... all right, fair enough...
Activist Near Front:
And the wine...
Omnes:
Oh yes! True!
Francis:
Yeah. That's something we'd really miss if the Romans left, Reg.
Masked Activist at Back:
Public baths!
Stan:
And it's safe to walk in the streets at night now.
Francis:
Yes, they certainly know how to keep order... (general nodding)... let's face it, they're the only ones who could in a place like this.

(more general murmurs of agreement)
Reg:
All right... all right... but apart from better sanitation and medicine and education and irrigation and public health and roads and a freshwater system and baths and public order... what have the Romans done for us?
Xerxes:
Brought peace!
Reg:
(very angry, he's not having a good meeting at all) What!? Oh... (scornfully) Peace, yes... shut up!


NO ONE..... IS STONING ANYONE.... UNTIL I BLOW THIS WHISTLE!

Even if they do say Jehovah!
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Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Evraim
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Postby Evraim » Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:06 pm

Menassa wrote:It means smart one.

I sense sarcasm.

Menassa wrote:Yeah the streets.... of Tivera.

I could sell grain for barley in poorer streets, I think.

Menassa wrote:Who lights fires on the Sabbath for the Roman Legions?


Ostensibly, you do.

The fire was lit by me unlike you...

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Postby Menassa » Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:08 pm

Evraim wrote:
Menassa wrote:It means smart one.

I sense sarcasm.

Menassa wrote:Yeah the streets.... of Tivera.

I could sell grain for barley in poorer streets, I think.

Menassa wrote:Who lights fires on the Sabbath for the Roman Legions?


Ostensibly, you do.

The fire was lit by me unlike you...

Eh.... when it was used most famously in Kesobos scholars debated for a while if it was sarcasm... it was not.

Yeah you who couldn't even be excepted to the Academy of Mar Zutrah hah!
Radical Monotheist
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This is my god and I shall exalt him
Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Evraim
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Postby Evraim » Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:12 pm

Menassa wrote:Eh.... when it was used most famously in Kesobos scholars debated for a while if it was sarcasm... it was not.

Then, I thank you. Oh, I still have so much to learn... and I always shall! :)

Menassa wrote:Yeah you who couldn't even be excepted to the Academy of Mar Zutrah hah!

Well, wouldn't it be presumptuous of them to expect me? :p

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Postby Menassa » Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:14 pm

Evraim wrote:
Menassa wrote:Eh.... when it was used most famously in Kesobos scholars debated for a while if it was sarcasm... it was not.

Then, I thank you. Oh, I still have so much to learn... and I always shall! :)

Menassa wrote:Yeah you who couldn't even be excepted to the Academy of Mar Zutrah hah!

Well, wouldn't it be presumptuous of them to expect me? :p

You're very welcome.

Not in the home of Mar Zutrah it wouldn't!
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Their hollow inheritance.
This is my god and I shall exalt him
Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Evraim » Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:21 pm

Menassa wrote:Not in the home of Mar Zutrah it wouldn't!

So, would they or wouldn't they expect me?

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Postby Menassa » Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:22 pm

Evraim wrote:
Menassa wrote:Not in the home of Mar Zutrah it wouldn't!

So, would they or wouldn't they expect me?

Because.

You're from a family whose daughters go out into the street to by grain and sell it for barley.
Radical Monotheist
Their hollow inheritance.
This is my god and I shall exalt him
Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Evraim
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Postby Evraim » Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:23 pm

Menassa wrote:
Evraim wrote:So, would they or wouldn't they expect me?

Because.

You're from a family whose daughters go out into the street to by grain and sell it for barley.

I've never bought grain or sold it for barley in my life. And neither has my sister for that matter.

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Menassa
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Postby Menassa » Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:24 pm

Evraim wrote:
Menassa wrote:Because.

You're from a family whose daughters go out into the street to by grain and sell it for barley.

I've never bought grain or sold it for barley in my life. And neither has my sister for that matter.

Classic person from a family whose daughters go out into the street to buy grain and sell it for barley.
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Radical Monotheist
Their hollow inheritance.
This is my god and I shall exalt him
Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Evraim
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Postby Evraim » Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:28 pm

Menassa wrote:
Evraim wrote:I've never bought grain or sold it for barley in my life. And neither has my sister for that matter.

Classic person from a family whose daughters go out into the street to buy grain and sell it for barley.

May I ask if the daughters in your family go out into the street to buy grain and sell it for barley?

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