Jewish Discussion Thread

[Vazdania]

What's the difference between a goy and a Gentile?

Goy means nation....they are the same thing......

[Vazdania]

Since Menassa seems to not be on, perhaps you can answer my question of the importance of Gematria.....Why is it so important?

I am not big on kabbalah so he will have to give you the answer, the wiki page has a decent answer till he gets to answer

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gematria

that said, all cash gifts we give are some multiplier of 18 which spells chai which means life.

I've already read the wiki page....

[Menassa]

Question to kabbalist jews:

What is your opinion of vooodoo/hoodoo/curses? Do you believe in black magick?

I don't think you understand what Kabblah is my friend.

The Bible clearly tells us of the existence of certain magics...

Hello!

Jews, Palestinian Jews, Ethiopian Jews and Other Jews.

Shalom Aliechem.

What's the difference between a goy and a Gentile?

Gentile is probably a translation of the word 'Goy' which literally means nation or people.

s'ok, can't knock them all out of the park.

Since Menassa seems to not be on, perhaps you can answer my question of the importance of Gematria.....Why is it so important?

Come again?

[Vazdania]

You know it's funny to me that many people are getting ear gauges....as Based on the Torah and Talmud it's a sign of slavery.

[Iuronia]

You know it's funny to me that many people are getting ear gauges....as Based on the Torah and Talmud it's a sign of slavery.

It's funny that you think it's funny.

[Ethel mermania]

You know it's funny to me that many people are getting ear gauges....as Based on the Torah and Talmud it's a sign of slavery.

i was never a fan of tatoos or piercings,

[Benuty]

You know it's funny to me that many people are getting ear gauges....as Based on the Torah and Talmud it's a sign of slavery.

It's funny that you think it's funny.

It is funny that you think it is funny that he thinks it is funny.

[Totally Not Leningrad Union]

It's funny that you think it's funny.

It is funny that you think it is funny that he thinks it is funny.

Funnyception

[Vazdania]

It is funny that you think it is funny that he thinks it is funny.

Funnyception

........funnyception......

[The Legion of War]

Hey there, I have some questions regarding homophobia and Judaism.

The other day, my friend was poking fun at Christianity by talking about the crazy fringe groups that were fundamentalists. We then noticed that most of these groups almost exclusively quote the Old Testament to "justify" their hate.

We then realized that the Old Testament of Christianity and the Torah of Judaism shared some parts (mostly the beginning, or so we've heard). However, I haven't seen/heard of any massive homophobia from Jewish communities.

Which brings me to the following questions:
1) Is homophobia an issue in Judaism, as it is with Christianity?
2) If not, then why the difference between Fundamentalist Christians and Jews? Could it be something as simple as culture (e.g. Southern US vs Jewish culture) or something more complex (e.g. The amount of overlap between the Old Testament and the Torah).

[Vazdania]

Hey there, I have some questions regarding homophobia and Judaism.

The other day, my friend was poking fun at Christianity by talking about the crazy fringe groups that were fundamentalists. We then noticed that most of these groups almost exclusively quote the Old Testament to "justify" their hate.

We then realized that the Old Testament of Christianity and the Torah of Judaism shared some parts (mostly the beginning, or so we've heard). However, I haven't seen/heard of any massive homophobia from Jewish communities.

Which brings me to the following questions:
1) Is homophobia an issue in Judaism, as it is with Christianity?
2) If not, then why the difference between Fundamentalist Christians and Jews? Could it be something as simple as culture (e.g. Southern US vs Jewish culture) or something more complex (e.g. The amount of overlap between the Old Testament and the Torah).

1.) Those laws don't apply to Non-Jews, for Noahides (people who are gentiles yet follow Judaism) I believe the prohibition against such union is currently under debate.
2.) Because the Christians don't have oral law. They interpret the Torah many times VERY differently then Judaism.


BUT DON'T QUOTE ME. I'm just a self styled Nagid, you should wait for a well read Rabbi of NS (ehem Menassa or Ethel or Benuty) to respond to you.

[Benuty]

Hey there, I have some questions regarding homophobia and Judaism.

The other day, my friend was poking fun at Christianity by talking about the crazy fringe groups that were fundamentalists. We then noticed that most of these groups almost exclusively quote the Old Testament to "justify" their hate.

We then realized that the Old Testament of Christianity and the Torah of Judaism shared some parts (mostly the beginning, or so we've heard). However, I haven't seen/heard of any massive homophobia from Jewish communities.

Which brings me to the following questions:
1) Is homophobia an issue in Judaism, as it is with Christianity?
2) If not, then why the difference between Fundamentalist Christians and Jews? Could it be something as simple as culture (e.g. Southern US vs Jewish culture) or something more complex (e.g. The amount of overlap between the Old Testament and the Torah).

1) It is an issue until people lump the Abraham faiths together wholeheartedly similar which they are not in terms of theology.
2) This mainly deals with translation and the variance of Southern U.S protestant evangelism compared to ancient Hebrew culture [and modern Jewish culture].

[Ethel mermania]

Hey there, I have some questions regarding homophobia and Judaism.

The other day, my friend was poking fun at Christianity by talking about the crazy fringe groups that were fundamentalists. We then noticed that most of these groups almost exclusively quote the Old Testament to "justify" their hate.

We then realized that the Old Testament of Christianity and the Torah of Judaism shared some parts (mostly the beginning, or so we've heard). However, I haven't seen/heard of any massive homophobia from Jewish communities.

Which brings me to the following questions:
1) Is homophobia an issue in Judaism, as it is with Christianity?
2) If not, then why the difference between Fundamentalist Christians and Jews? Could it be something as simple as culture (e.g. Southern US vs Jewish culture) or something more complex (e.g. The amount of overlap between the Old Testament and the Torah).

your old testiment is our torah, some of the words were translated incorrecly by the writers of the various xtian bibles, but they are the same books. (though i believe you add a couple we dont use).

1. depends on the sect of judiasm, generally orthodox would be considered anti gay. reform have gay and lesbian rabbis.

2. the torah says 'dont be gay'. those who follow the letter of the torah consder homosexual acts a sin. those who follow the spirit of the torah, say the dignity of man triumphs the letter of the law, and its ok to be gay.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

Hey there, I have some questions regarding homophobia and Judaism.

The other day, my friend was poking fun at Christianity by talking about the crazy fringe groups that were fundamentalists. We then noticed that most of these groups almost exclusively quote the Old Testament to "justify" their hate.

We then realized that the Old Testament of Christianity and the Torah of Judaism shared some parts (mostly the beginning, or so we've heard). However, I haven't seen/heard of any massive homophobia from Jewish communities.

Which brings me to the following questions:
1) Is homophobia an issue in Judaism, as it is with Christianity?
2) If not, then why the difference between Fundamentalist Christians and Jews? Could it be something as simple as culture (e.g. Southern US vs Jewish culture) or something more complex (e.g. The amount of overlap between the Old Testament and the Torah).

You said it yourself. It's using scripture to justify hate. Evangelicals use the verses they want to promote their own world view. Protestants be cray.

[Benuty]

Hey there, I have some questions regarding homophobia and Judaism.

The other day, my friend was poking fun at Christianity by talking about the crazy fringe groups that were fundamentalists. We then noticed that most of these groups almost exclusively quote the Old Testament to "justify" their hate.

We then realized that the Old Testament of Christianity and the Torah of Judaism shared some parts (mostly the beginning, or so we've heard). However, I haven't seen/heard of any massive homophobia from Jewish communities.

Which brings me to the following questions:
1) Is homophobia an issue in Judaism, as it is with Christianity?
2) If not, then why the difference between Fundamentalist Christians and Jews? Could it be something as simple as culture (e.g. Southern US vs Jewish culture) or something more complex (e.g. The amount of overlap between the Old Testament and the Torah).

You said it yourself. It's using scripture to justify hate. Evangelicals use the verses they want to promote their own world view. Protestants be cray.

Not all of them the protestors certainly had a point back in their day. Now if you excuse me I really need to have The Borgia's stop hosting orgies in the the Papal residences.

[Menassa]

Hey there, I have some questions regarding homophobia and Judaism.

The other day, my friend was poking fun at Christianity by talking about the crazy fringe groups that were fundamentalists. We then noticed that most of these groups almost exclusively quote the Old Testament to "justify" their hate.

We then realized that the Old Testament of Christianity and the Torah of Judaism shared some parts (mostly the beginning, or so we've heard). However, I haven't seen/heard of any massive homophobia from Jewish communities.

Largely the exact same.

Which brings me to the following questions:
1) Is homophobia an issue in Judaism, as it is with Christianity?

No, not really, because you see, as keepers of The Law we believe that when the Torah says that the only thing that is sin is preforming homosexual acts, not having homosexual feelings. The same goes for keeping the Sabbath, if someone does not keep the Sabbath they are not branded 'outcast.'
And how much more so if someone who resists this temptation will they be rewarded than someone who never had it?

2) If not, then why the difference between Fundamentalist Christians and Jews? Could it be something as simple as culture (e.g. Southern US vs Jewish culture) or something more complex (e.g. The amount of overlap between the Old Testament and the Torah).

I think it has a lot to do with fundamentalist Christianity's view of The Law.
But I suppose the reasons above apply as well... if a parent finds out their child has practiced homosexuality the result should be the exact same as if a parent finds out their child constantly eats cheeseburgers.

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After that, I have some very bad news my friends.

Due to the fact that I've taken on a heavy workload in the pursuit and study of the Torah I'm afraid that I won't be able to post very much on the forums over the next few months.... I can still be contacted through my telegrams and I may be on the NS TeamSpeak from time to time.

If I don't 'live' to see the JDT Part בְּ tell it I say shalom.

[Ivania]

Any Passover advice? This is my second time observing it [1 year of converting!] and I want to go all out, any advice or some observances
I should be looking at?

[Vazdania]

Any Passover advice? This is my second time observing it [1 year of converting!] and I want to go all out, any advice or some observances
I should be looking at?

OH OH OH!!!! Find the Afikoman!

You know it seems like the Passover just has layers upon layers of symbolism to it.

EDIT: It's way cool that your observing the Holiday by the way.

[Ethel mermania]

Hey there, I have some questions regarding homophobia and Judaism.

The other day, my friend was poking fun at Christianity by talking about the crazy fringe groups that were fundamentalists. We then noticed that most of these groups almost exclusively quote the Old Testament to "justify" their hate.

We then realized that the Old Testament of Christianity and the Torah of Judaism shared some parts (mostly the beginning, or so we've heard). However, I haven't seen/heard of any massive homophobia from Jewish communities.

Largely the exact same.

Which brings me to the following questions:
1) Is homophobia an issue in Judaism, as it is with Christianity?

No, not really, because you see, as keepers of The Law we believe that when the Torah says that the only thing that is sin is preforming homosexual acts, not having homosexual feelings. The same goes for keeping the Sabbath, if someone does not keep the Sabbath they are not branded 'outcast.'
And how much more so if someone who resists this temptation will they be rewarded than someone who never had it?

2) If not, then why the difference between Fundamentalist Christians and Jews? Could it be something as simple as culture (e.g. Southern US vs Jewish culture) or something more complex (e.g. The amount of overlap between the Old Testament and the Torah).

I think it has a lot to do with fundamentalist Christianity's view of The Law.
But I suppose the reasons above apply as well... if a parent finds out their child has practiced homosexuality the result should be the exact same as if a parent finds out their child constantly eats cheeseburgers.

---

After that, I have some very bad news my friends.

Due to the fact that I've taken on a heavy workload in the pursuit and study of the Torah I'm afraid that I won't be able to post very much on the forums over the next few months.... I can still be contacted through my telegrams and I may be on the NS TeamSpeak from time to time.

If I don't 'live' to see the JDT Part בְּ tell it I say shalom.

Good luck in your future endeavors, your perspective and knowlege will be missed. you were most informative, and it has been a pleasure watching you grow up a bit in your time here.
so as my grandmother (may she rest in peace) would say

zei gezunt

[Ethel mermania]

Any Passover advice? This is my second time observing it [1 year of converting!] and I want to go all out, any advice or some observances
I should be looking at?

the chumetz hunt., it was a fond memory when growing up.

[Vazdania]

Any Passover advice? This is my second time observing it [1 year of converting!] and I want to go all out, any advice or some observances
I should be looking at?

the chumetz hunt., it was a fond memory when growing up.

That to me just seems wildly stressing.

[Crimiea]

Any Passover advice? This is my second time observing it [1 year of converting!] and I want to go all out, any advice or some observances
I should be looking at?

Prepare the wine!
Or have grape juice.

[Yisrae1]

the chumetz hunt., it was a fond memory when growing up.

That to me just seems wildly stressing.

I hate it so much because I'm the one everyone forced to do it... -_-

[Vazdania]

That to me just seems wildly stressing.

I hate it so much because I'm the one everyone forced to do it... -_-

AHAHAHAHA!!!
That is way cool, because you're symbolically removing uncleanliness from the house!

[The Legion of War]

Passover seems like a really cool celebration.

Do Jews mind if people who are not of the Jewish faith happen to be there? Like if a member of the family/community invited a friend who wasn't Jewish?