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Postby Vazdania » Fri Mar 07, 2014 10:02 pm

Menassa wrote:
Vazdania wrote:I've come to realize that the Ever Min ha'chai mitzvah is probably one of the harder mitzot to follow.

But it is one of the most important...

Well yes, but I mean it totally entails WAY more than just eating meat from an animal that is alive.
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Postby Menassa » Fri Mar 07, 2014 10:03 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Menassa wrote:But it is one of the most important...

Well yes, but I mean it totally entails WAY more than just eating meat from an animal that is alive.

Oh? Besides the theorized blood, what else is there?
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Postby Vazdania » Fri Mar 07, 2014 10:04 pm

Menassa wrote:
Vazdania wrote:Well yes, but I mean it totally entails WAY more than just eating meat from an animal that is alive.

Oh? Besides the theorized blood, what else is there?

It basically entails not abusing animals and other things like that.
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Postby Menassa » Fri Mar 07, 2014 10:05 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Menassa wrote:Oh? Besides the theorized blood, what else is there?

It basically entails not abusing animals and other things like that.

Awesome.
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"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
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Postby Vazdania » Fri Mar 07, 2014 10:11 pm

Menassa wrote:
Vazdania wrote:Well yes, but I mean it totally entails WAY more than just eating meat from an animal that is alive.

Oh? Besides the theorized blood, what else is there?

Aren't Noahides not to eat blood either? It seems as though eating blood would violate Bereshit 9:4.
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Postby Arabic Spain » Fri Mar 07, 2014 10:12 pm

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Menassa wrote:Support them, in what?

I support Israel against Germany and the fascist Muslims.


Im not fascist :(
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Postby Menassa » Fri Mar 07, 2014 10:26 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Menassa wrote:Oh? Besides the theorized blood, what else is there?

Aren't Noahides not to eat blood either? It seems as though eating blood would violate Bereshit 9:4.

Rashi says it means as long as its soul is within it.
But, flesh with its soul, its blood, you shall not eat. . אַךְ בָּשָׂר בְּנַפְשׁוֹ דָמוֹ לֹא תֹאכֵלוּ:
flesh with its soul: He prohibited them [to eat] a limb [cut off from] a living creature; i.e., as long as its soul is in it, you shall not eat the flesh. — [from Sanh. ad loc.] [i.e., if the limb is cut from the animal while it is alive, it is forbidden to be eaten even after the animal expires.]

בשר בנפשו: אסר להם אבר מן החי, כלומר כל זמן שנפשו בו לא תאכלו הבשר:
with its soul, its blood: As long as its soul is within it.

בשר בנפשו לא תאכלו: הרי אבר מן החי ואף בנפשו דמו לא תאכלו, הרי דם מן החי:
flesh with its soul…you shall not eat: This refers to a limb of a living creature. And also, its blood, you shall not eat-This refers to blood of a living creature. — [from above source]


Arabic Spain wrote:
Great German States wrote:I support Israel against Germany and the fascist Muslims.


Im not fascist :(

I don't think he was saying you were...
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"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
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Postby Agorapolis » Sun Mar 09, 2014 11:13 am

Great German States wrote:
Menassa wrote:Support them, in what?

I support Israel against Germany and the fascist Muslims.


I didn't realize Israel and Germany were at war . . .
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Postby Judean Authority » Sun Mar 09, 2014 11:21 am

Agorapolis wrote:
Great German States wrote:I support Israel against Germany and the fascist Muslims.


I didn't realize Israel and Germany were at war . . .


I think he meant the former third reich :)

Nowadays Germany is one of Israel's greatest allies
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Postby Vazdania » Mon Mar 10, 2014 7:42 am

That awkward moment when you spill a box of Cheerios's just before passover.

:rofl: I feel your pain.
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Postby Menassa » Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:48 pm

The Tannis Esther is real.
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"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."
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Postby Vazdania » Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:53 pm

Menassa wrote:The Tannis Esther is real.

? The fast of Esther is real????
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Postby Menassa » Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:54 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Menassa wrote:The Tannis Esther is real.

? The fast of Esther is real????

Real talk.
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"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."
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Postby Vazdania » Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:56 pm

Menassa wrote:
Vazdania wrote:? The fast of Esther is real????

Real talk.

Q~Q I don't understand what you are saying.
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Postby Menassa » Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:56 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Menassa wrote:Real talk.

Q~Q I don't understand what you are saying.

It's Tannis Esther tomorrow.
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"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."
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Postby Vazdania » Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:56 pm

:eyebrow: I'm not sure why these messianics are using the restored babylonian calendar... :eyebrow:
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Postby Menassa » Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:57 pm

Vazdania wrote::eyebrow: I'm not sure why these messianics are using the restored babylonian calendar... :eyebrow:

The who?
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"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."
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Postby Vazdania » Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:58 pm

Menassa wrote:
Vazdania wrote::eyebrow: I'm not sure why these messianics are using the restored babylonian calendar... :eyebrow:

The who?

Crazy Messianic Jews who keep coming to me.
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Postby Menassa » Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:59 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Menassa wrote:The who?

Crazy Messianic Jews who keep coming to me.

I meant what calendar... and just say no!
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"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."
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Postby Vazdania » Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:05 pm

Menassa wrote:
Vazdania wrote:Crazy Messianic Jews who keep coming to me.

I meant what calendar... and just say no!

It's some weird calendar that's like 30 days ahead of the standard Hebrew Calendar.
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Postby Menassa » Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:06 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Menassa wrote:I meant what calendar... and just say no!

It's some weird calendar that's like 30 days ahead of the standard Hebrew Calendar.

So its a straight lunar calendar? That doesn't seem in tandem with the Torah.
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"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
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Postby Vazdania » Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:08 pm

Menassa wrote:
Vazdania wrote:It's some weird calendar that's like 30 days ahead of the standard Hebrew Calendar.

So its a straight lunar calendar? That doesn't seem in tandem with the Torah.

I guess? :eyebrow: I've not asked them. They're celebrating Rosh Hashanah on March 31st?
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Postby Menassa » Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:08 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Menassa wrote:So its a straight lunar calendar? That doesn't seem in tandem with the Torah.

I guess? :eyebrow: I've not asked them. They're celebrating Rosh Hashanah on March 31st?

Crazy. Crazy. Crazy.
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"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
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Postby Vazdania » Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:09 pm

Menassa wrote:
Vazdania wrote:I guess? :eyebrow: I've not asked them. They're celebrating Rosh Hashanah on March 31st?

Crazy. Crazy. Crazy.

:? You're telling me.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Mar 13, 2014 3:27 am

Menassa wrote:The Tannis Esther is real.


on the sabbath?
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