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Orthodox
50
5%
Modern Orthodox
36
4%
Conservative
101
11%
Reform
87
9%
Atheist
500
53%
Nonobservant
79
8%
Messianic
83
9%
 
Total votes : 936

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Postby Kingdom of Israel » Sun Jan 05, 2014 11:45 am

Menassa wrote:
Kingdom of Israel wrote:Yeah.
בר כוזיבא מלך תרתין שנין ופלגא. אמר להו לרבנן אנא משיח. אמרו ליה במשיח כתיב דמורח ודאין נחזי אנן אי מורח ודאין. כיון שחזיוהו דלא מורח ודאין קטלוהו
– תלמוד בבלי, סנהדרין, צג ע"ב;

Todah.

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57% Fundementalist
88% Reactionary
92% Authoritarian
31% Capitalistic
99% Militaristic
63% Anthropocentric
Jewish Ethnic Nationalism, Revisionist Zionism, Greater Israel, Capitalist Autarky, Population transfer of the Arabs, Hebrew culture and language, Militarism, Powerful government
Anti-nationalism, antisemitism, anti-Zionism, anti-Israel, Cosmopolitanism, Pacifism, Internationalism, Liberalism, Socialism, Communism, Anarchism, "two states", "bi-national state", "all-citizens state", terrorism, Nazism
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Postby Menassa » Sun Jan 05, 2014 11:46 am

Kingdom of Israel wrote:
Menassa wrote:I know.

Not everybody here knows Aramaic.
In fact, I'm pretty sure you are the only one.

Unfortunately, Talmud-wise...there isn't much on the Internet... I mean we have:

"Come-and-hear" (which is a GREAT name IMO)

But even that is not a full set.

and Edaf is only the Aramaic... although CaH is only the English...
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"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Leningrad Union » Sun Jan 05, 2014 11:46 am

I doubt half the atheists in the poll are Jews. Do we even have 400 Jews on here?

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Postby Kingdom of Israel » Sun Jan 05, 2014 11:46 am

Leningrad Union wrote:I doubt half the atheists in the poll are Jews. Do we even have 400 Jews on here?

Who knows.
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91% Nationalistic
57% Fundementalist
88% Reactionary
92% Authoritarian
31% Capitalistic
99% Militaristic
63% Anthropocentric
Jewish Ethnic Nationalism, Revisionist Zionism, Greater Israel, Capitalist Autarky, Population transfer of the Arabs, Hebrew culture and language, Militarism, Powerful government
Anti-nationalism, antisemitism, anti-Zionism, anti-Israel, Cosmopolitanism, Pacifism, Internationalism, Liberalism, Socialism, Communism, Anarchism, "two states", "bi-national state", "all-citizens state", terrorism, Nazism
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Postby Menassa » Sun Jan 05, 2014 11:47 am

Leningrad Union wrote:I doubt half the atheists in the poll are Jews. Do we even have 400 Jews on here?

If 1 in every 400 people are Jews and there are 3 million people on NS, and I'm terrible at math.... then who's flying the plane?
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Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Leningrad Union » Sun Jan 05, 2014 11:47 am

Kingdom of Israel wrote:
Leningrad Union wrote:I doubt half the atheists in the poll are Jews. Do we even have 400 Jews on here?

Who knows.

We probably only have/had 50-300 ACTUAL Jews.

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Postby Kingdom of Israel » Sun Jan 05, 2014 11:47 am

Menassa wrote:
Kingdom of Israel wrote:Not everybody here knows Aramaic.
In fact, I'm pretty sure you are the only one.

Unfortunately, Talmud-wise...there isn't much on the Internet... I mean we have:

"Come-and-hear" (which is a GREAT name IMO)

But even that is not a full set.

and Edaf is only the Aramaic... although CaH is only the English...

I know this site:
http://kodesh.snunit.k12.il/b/l/l0.htm
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91% Nationalistic
57% Fundementalist
88% Reactionary
92% Authoritarian
31% Capitalistic
99% Militaristic
63% Anthropocentric
Jewish Ethnic Nationalism, Revisionist Zionism, Greater Israel, Capitalist Autarky, Population transfer of the Arabs, Hebrew culture and language, Militarism, Powerful government
Anti-nationalism, antisemitism, anti-Zionism, anti-Israel, Cosmopolitanism, Pacifism, Internationalism, Liberalism, Socialism, Communism, Anarchism, "two states", "bi-national state", "all-citizens state", terrorism, Nazism
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Postby Kingdom of Israel » Sun Jan 05, 2014 11:49 am

Leningrad Union wrote:
Kingdom of Israel wrote:Who knows.

We probably only have/had 50-300 ACTUAL Jews.

We cannot really know, personally I know a person who has been in NS but never posted in the forums.
Last edited by Yohanan MiGush Halav on Wed Tishrei 2, 69 19:32 pm, edited 3546 times in total.

91% Nationalistic
57% Fundementalist
88% Reactionary
92% Authoritarian
31% Capitalistic
99% Militaristic
63% Anthropocentric
Jewish Ethnic Nationalism, Revisionist Zionism, Greater Israel, Capitalist Autarky, Population transfer of the Arabs, Hebrew culture and language, Militarism, Powerful government
Anti-nationalism, antisemitism, anti-Zionism, anti-Israel, Cosmopolitanism, Pacifism, Internationalism, Liberalism, Socialism, Communism, Anarchism, "two states", "bi-national state", "all-citizens state", terrorism, Nazism
Yehuddah was deleted );, Posts: +3150

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Postby Menassa » Sun Jan 05, 2014 11:49 am

Kingdom of Israel wrote:
Menassa wrote:Unfortunately, Talmud-wise...there isn't much on the Internet... I mean we have:

"Come-and-hear" (which is a GREAT name IMO)

But even that is not a full set.

and Edaf is only the Aramaic... although CaH is only the English...

I know this site:
http://kodesh.snunit.k12.il/b/l/l0.htm

Awesomesauce.
Radical Monotheist
Their hollow inheritance.
This is my god and I shall exalt him
Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Leningrad Union » Sun Jan 05, 2014 12:12 pm

Kingdom of Israel wrote:
Leningrad Union wrote:We probably only have/had 50-300 ACTUAL Jews.

We cannot really know, personally I know a person who has been in NS but never posted in the forums.

Who?

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Postby Kingdom of Israel » Sun Jan 05, 2014 12:22 pm

Leningrad Union wrote:
Kingdom of Israel wrote:We cannot really know, personally I know a person who has been in NS but never posted in the forums.

Who?

He isn't on NS anymore, anyway I didn't ask him what he's NS was.
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91% Nationalistic
57% Fundementalist
88% Reactionary
92% Authoritarian
31% Capitalistic
99% Militaristic
63% Anthropocentric
Jewish Ethnic Nationalism, Revisionist Zionism, Greater Israel, Capitalist Autarky, Population transfer of the Arabs, Hebrew culture and language, Militarism, Powerful government
Anti-nationalism, antisemitism, anti-Zionism, anti-Israel, Cosmopolitanism, Pacifism, Internationalism, Liberalism, Socialism, Communism, Anarchism, "two states", "bi-national state", "all-citizens state", terrorism, Nazism
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Postby Menassa » Mon Jan 06, 2014 12:05 am

Conscentia wrote:
Menassa wrote:I'm a Yeshivish man myself.

That's not technically a language...

I'm sure they said that about Yiddish ;)

But hearing two people talk in it... I mean... like about chess... it's a wonder.
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This is my god and I shall exalt him
Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Conscentia » Mon Jan 06, 2014 9:45 am

Menassa wrote:
Conscentia wrote:That's not technically a language...

I'm sure they said that about Yiddish ;)

But hearing two people talk in it... I mean... like about chess... it's a wonder.

Yiddish has evolved into a complete language.
Yeshivish is basically Jewish slang.

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Postby Evraim » Mon Jan 06, 2014 10:10 am

Menassa wrote:
Leningrad Union wrote:I doubt half the atheists in the poll are Jews. Do we even have 400 Jews on here?

If 1 in every 400 people are Jews and there are 3 million people on NS, and I'm terrible at math.... then who's flying the plane?

This would make about .01% of NS's population Jewish. It's a plausible figure considering that Jews represent less than .02% of the world's population, and that they tend to be focused in more industrialized nations. However, we also have to keep in mind that most of those 3 million nations are puppets, and that not all Jews participate in NSG's silliness.

Leningrad Union wrote:I doubt half the atheists in the poll are Jews. Do we even have 400 Jews on here?

Active? Probably not.
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Postby Leningrad Union » Mon Jan 06, 2014 10:16 am

Evraim wrote:
Menassa wrote:If 1 in every 400 people are Jews and there are 3 million people on NS, and I'm terrible at math.... then who's flying the plane?

This would make about .01% of NS's population Jewish. It's a plausible figure considering that Jews represent less than .02% of the world's population, and that they tend to be focused in more industrialized nations. However, we also have to keep in mind that most of those 3 million nations are puppets, and that not all Jews participate in NSG's silliness.

Leningrad Union wrote:I doubt half the atheists in the poll are Jews. Do we even have 400 Jews on here?

Active? Probably not.

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Postby Benuty » Mon Jan 06, 2014 10:19 am

Hmm I feel like I should devote an entire thread to presenting an interpretation of Genesis (because of all the threads lately).
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Postby Leningrad Union » Mon Jan 06, 2014 10:22 am

Benuty wrote:Hmm I feel like I should devote an entire thread to presenting an interpretation of Genesis (because of all the threads lately).

You should. The other day I was talking with my girlfriend about Genesis and she says that she believes in creationism and I believe in evolution so we were arguing over whether it was metaphorical or literal.

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Postby Kingdom of Israel » Mon Jan 06, 2014 10:23 am

Leningrad Union wrote:
Benuty wrote:Hmm I feel like I should devote an entire thread to presenting an interpretation of Genesis (because of all the threads lately).

You should. The other day I was talking with my girlfriend about Genesis and she says that she believes in creationism and I believe in evolution so we were arguing over whether it was metaphorical or literal.

It was definitely not literal.
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91% Nationalistic
57% Fundementalist
88% Reactionary
92% Authoritarian
31% Capitalistic
99% Militaristic
63% Anthropocentric
Jewish Ethnic Nationalism, Revisionist Zionism, Greater Israel, Capitalist Autarky, Population transfer of the Arabs, Hebrew culture and language, Militarism, Powerful government
Anti-nationalism, antisemitism, anti-Zionism, anti-Israel, Cosmopolitanism, Pacifism, Internationalism, Liberalism, Socialism, Communism, Anarchism, "two states", "bi-national state", "all-citizens state", terrorism, Nazism
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Postby Leningrad Union » Mon Jan 06, 2014 10:25 am

Kingdom of Israel wrote:
Leningrad Union wrote:You should. The other day I was talking with my girlfriend about Genesis and she says that she believes in creationism and I believe in evolution so we were arguing over whether it was metaphorical or literal.

It was definitely not literal.

Again, the three of us need to do a voice chat some time. :P

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Postby Evraim » Mon Jan 06, 2014 10:25 am

Kingdom of Israel wrote:It was definitely not literal.

You mean snakes can't talk!? Lies!

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Postby Benuty » Mon Jan 06, 2014 10:26 am

Kingdom of Israel wrote:
Leningrad Union wrote:You should. The other day I was talking with my girlfriend about Genesis and she says that she believes in creationism and I believe in evolution so we were arguing over whether it was metaphorical or literal.

It was definitely not literal.

Well Moses wrote it to represent the weekly cycle (6 days of work and 1 of rest) along with the cycle of day/night rather than 6 actual days.
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Postby Benuty » Mon Jan 06, 2014 10:28 am

Evraim wrote:
Kingdom of Israel wrote:It was definitely not literal.

You mean snakes can't talk!? Lies!

I believe the snake was of evil origin thus it could talk (it isn't Satan obviously like the Christians would believe).
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Postby Conscentia » Mon Jan 06, 2014 10:41 am

Benuty wrote:
Evraim wrote:You mean snakes can't talk!? Lies!

I believe the snake was of evil origin thus it could talk (it isn't Satan obviously like the Christians would believe).

God is evil, as the snake's origin is god. That is the logical conclusion from thy words.

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Postby Leningrad Union » Mon Jan 06, 2014 10:42 am

Conscentia wrote:
Benuty wrote:I believe the snake was of evil origin thus it could talk (it isn't Satan obviously like the Christians would believe).

God is evil, as the snake's origin is god. That is the logical conclusion from thy words.

>:( Seriously?

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