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by Pope Joan » Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:22 pm

by TaQud » Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:23 pm

by The UK in Exile » Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:26 pm

by Williamson » Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:27 pm
TaQud wrote:any person who went from a bad team to the yankees and looks good...

by The House of Petain » Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:29 pm

by Williamson » Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:31 pm

by Nadkor » Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:32 pm
Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f wrote:Nadkor wrote:
Not true. He was a very good player who had two particular things he could do as well as or better than anyone else in the world. You don't play for the teams he played for when he played for them (before LA) if all but two areas of your game are slightly above average.
That Beckham is more famous for his looks and celebrity is undeniable, but he was actually a very good footballer in the late 90s/early 2000s, even on into the mid-2000s.I was ribbing you with the slightly above average comment...
He wasn't a bad player but there were aspects of his game that he was not good at such as tackling...my objection as such is that he was put on a pedestal as some kind of Pele...which he wasn't. He had good talent but nothing on Pele or Messi or even C Ronaldo. What Beckham did have was an extraordinary will to succeed by improving his game through practice. That I totally respect. So yeah he was a very good player as long as you didn't play him in central midfield and played him on the wing. I don't have an issue with him as a person either...I do respect the way he has managed to keep out of trouble. On the downside I do think he was a bit of mong re the entire WAGS thing though.
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by Capitolinium » Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:37 pm

by Pope Joan » Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:42 pm
Capitolinium wrote:Tyson doesn't belong on this list. He was an absolute wrecking machine until he changed trainers, married Robin Givens, and gotSvengaliDon King as his manager.

by Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f » Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:46 pm
Nadkor wrote:Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f wrote:I was ribbing you with the slightly above average comment...
He wasn't a bad player but there were aspects of his game that he was not good at such as tackling...my objection as such is that he was put on a pedestal as some kind of Pele...which he wasn't. He had good talent but nothing on Pele or Messi or even C Ronaldo. What Beckham did have was an extraordinary will to succeed by improving his game through practice. That I totally respect. So yeah he was a very good player as long as you didn't play him in central midfield and played him on the wing. I don't have an issue with him as a person either...I do respect the way he has managed to keep out of trouble. On the downside I do think he was a bit of mong re the entire WAGS thing though.
To be fair, Paul Scholes can't tackle either![]()
And one of my abiding memories of watching Beckham for United was in the 2000 Club World Cup, when he came sprinting down from our right wing to cut out the opposition's right winger in our left-back position, executing a perfect sliding tackle from behind (the ones where the tackler kind of slides around the player he's tacking rather than through them), standing up still in control of the ball, and pinging a perfect ball upfield to build an attack (he later got sent off, but that's not the point)
Not bad for a player who supposedly had no pace and couldn't tackle...
I don't think Beckham was ever built up to be anything like Pele, or even like the Zidane's, Ronaldo's, and Figo's of their time. Around international tournaments he was built up as England's great hope, or whatever, and then vilified after 1998, but in terms of actual footballing ability? That was it, he was never talked up that much. Most of the talk about him surrounded his celebrity, which was out of proportion to his abilities (but not necessarily out of proportion to his his looks and the fact that he had a famous girlfriend/wife), but that's not so much being overrated as a sportsman or an athlete as being overrated as a celebrity.

by Capitolinium » Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:51 pm


by United Kingdom of Poland » Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:08 pm

by Sentinel XV » Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:46 pm
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by Dyakovo » Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:48 pm
Williamson wrote:I want to know who NS think the most overrated althlete of all time.

by Sardine World » Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:49 pm


by Sentinel XV » Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:51 pm
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by Interstellar Space Corps » Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:55 pm
Rangstam
My country is highly National Socialist and we won't let you take our RIGHTS! THAT IS FINAL!
Mad Jack
Can I have your lefts instead?

by Sedikal » Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:56 pm

by Sentinel XV » Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:01 pm
Williamson wrote:it seems like nobody tinks vince cater overrated.
‹ all genius is a conquering of chaos and mystery ›

by Williamson » Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:02 pm
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