Who was worse,Hitler or Stalin?

[The De Danann Nation]

In my opinion,Stalin was way worse.He starved his own people to death and his police forces would interrogate people for not looking like they were starving to death.

[North Franklin]

Stalin never tried to exterminate an entire race.

[Ozerostan]

In my opinion,Stalin was way worse.He starved his own people to death and his police forces would interrogate people for not looking like they were starving to death.

I am not a Stalin fan, in fact I opose his style o ruling, but are you sure that he was worse? Your first argument is not fully corect, and your second argument is bullshit. Here are my two arguments - Hitler ordered genocide of people just because of their religion and nationality and start second world war.

[Trotskylvania]

Are you fucking kidding me?

Stalin is the banal kind of evil that relies upon pragmatic villainy and the-ends-justify-the-means types of rationalizations. Hitler and the Nazis were absolutely irrational, blood for the blood god evil. They're psychotic manchildren who elevated violence to a moral principle and were hellbent on turning the entirety of the world into rubble so they could live out their own version of Wagner's Ring Cycle all the way to the bloody Götterdämmerung.

[The De Danann Nation]

Stalin never tried to exterminate an entire race.

However,Hitler never starved his own citizens to death or send his own soldiers to death camps in fear that they'd picked up "dangerous ideas."

[Trotskylvania]

Stalin never tried to exterminate an entire race.

However,Hitler never starved his own citizens to death or send his own soldiers to death camps in fear that they'd picked up "dangerous ideas."

Over a million German citizens died in the death camps, often of starvation. Hitler also subjected the entirety of the Slavic peopled areas of Eastern europe to starvation conditions, and fully intended to murder them all in the fullness of time.

[Typhlochactas]

Hitler because his actions killed more people.

[The Russian Royal Orthodox League]

Statistically, Stalin had more blood on his hands. He did try to eradicate Jews, as well as fascists, gypsies and anyone else who opposed his ideas. It took Nikita Khruschev, several years after Stalins death, to start getting over the fear he created. The only reason Hitler is considered worse is because he was our enemy in WW2 and Stalin was not.

[North Franklin]

Stalin never tried to exterminate an entire race.

However,Hitler never starved his own citizens to death or send his own soldiers to death camps in fear that they'd picked up "dangerous ideas."

I do believe that the Jews in labor and death camps were indeed German citizens. And yes, Stalin did kill a significant number of people, but it was nowhere near the efficiency or intent of Hitler and Himmler. I think Stalin was a very evil person, I just don't believe he was worse than Hitler.

[Ganos Lao]

-nah-

[Typhlochactas]

Statistically, Stalin had more blood on his hands. He did try to eradicate Jews, as well as fascists, gypsies and anyone else who opposed his ideas. It took Nikita Khruschev, several years after Stalins death, to start getting over the fear he created. The only reason Hitler is considered worse is because he was our enemy in WW2 and Stalin was not.

Don't forget WW2. Combine that with the holocaust and he's killed more people than Stalin.

[Quebec and Atlantic Canada]

You can't measure someone's evil by body count alone. You need to look at the reasons for that body count too. This is why I consider Hitler to be far worse than Stalin- because, unlike Stalin, who created his body count through paranoia, Hitler knowingly and deliberately made it his goal to exterminate an entire race simply for existing. In essence, even if a hypothetical Jew followed every single law of Nazi Germany to the letter, singing Hitler's praises 20 times a day, gleefully hunting down anti-Nazis with a bloodthirstiness that would scare the Gestapo, etc etc, he would still get thrown in a concentration camp just because he was Jewish. Obviously this hypothetical Jew never existed, but in any case, he certainly would have survived in Stalin's USSR if he was a model Stalinist, singing Stalin's praises 20 times a day, and gleefully hunting down anti-Stalinists with a bloodthirstiness that would scare the NKVD.

[Grand Soviet Union]

in the end hitler he would have killed any one who wasn't aryan. He had plans to kill the slavs after invading Russia. Stalin though he did kill a lot of people he wouldn't exterminate a race and a good portion of the deaths came during ww2 when he had the civilians in the line of fire,

[Idealismania]

It's a tie. They both fail as human beings.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

I think that's up to the person's opinion...

[Trotskylvania]

Statistically, Stalin had more blood on his hands.¹ He did try to eradicate Jews,² as well as fascists, gypsies³ and anyone else who opposed his ideas.⁴ It took Nikita Khruschev, several years after Stalins death, to start getting over the fear he created. The only reason Hitler is considered worse is because he was our enemy in WW2 and Stalin was not.

1. False, considering Hitler is directly responsible for the deaths of twelve million in the holocaust, as well as another thirty million on the Eastern Front alone. Even counting deaths from famine to Stalin's count, Stalin can't break twenty million by modern reputable sources, and he had a lot longer to do it in.
2. No, he did not. The worst he got before he died was some anti-Semetic scaremongering among the intellectuals. There was no extermination campaign.
3. Again, false. Gypsies suffered under Stalin not because of their race, but because of their position as rootless petit-bourgeois. They were proletarianized just the same as wealthy peasants were, and it had nothing to do with race.
4. In general, yes. But the worst hat most people got was a long term of hard labor. Conditions in the GULAG system were terrible, but the death rates peaked at 25 percent during the Second World War, during a period in which the entire country was slowly starving to death. It was brutal and horrible, but hardly on the same scale as Hitler.

[Olthar]

My 3rd grade teacher.

[The Nemedians]

You can't measure someone's evil by body count alone. You need to look at the reasons for that body count too. This is why I consider Hitler to be far worse than Stalin- because, unlike Stalin, who created his body count through paranoia, Hitler knowingly and deliberately made it his goal to exterminate an entire race simply for existing. In essence, even if a hypothetical Jew followed every single law of Nazi Germany to the letter, singing Hitler's praises 20 times a day, gleefully hunting down anti-Nazis with a bloodthirstiness that would scare the Gestapo, etc etc, he would still get thrown in a concentration camp just because he was Jewish. Obviously this hypothetical Jew never existed, but in any case, he certainly would have survived in Stalin's USSR if he was a model Stalinist, singing Stalin's praises 20 times a day, and gleefully hunting down anti-Stalinists with a bloodthirstiness that would scare the NKVD.

Actually,he'd probably end up shot.Stalin was VERY paranoid.Even the Communist Party wasn't safe from his paranoia.Really,it seems ironic that Hitler is looked at in bad light but Stalin isn't.Maybe it's because Stalin fought on our side...we should've destroyed that bastard.

[Nusantara Raya]

Franklin Rooselvelt!
I might choose Stalin is worse than Hitler, because Hitler treated well Aryan, but Stalin treated equal (in other word, All Suffers) to all people, except inner member of Communist Party.
Hitler: "JEWISH, GO TO AUSTHWICZ OR YOU'LL BE FORCED! Aryans, go to home, enjoy your day as supreme race."
Stalin: "ALL OF YOU, GO TO GULAGS OR YOU'LL BE SHOT! Inner member of Communist Party, you can taxes as much as you want."

[Zipzopzoobitybop]

Stalin, hands down. He was the most prolific mass murderer of all-time, personally instituting policies that killed more than 30 million people. There really isn't any competition, though I will admit that Hitler was the more psychotic of the two, and would have been worse than Stalin had his grand plans come to fruition.

[Eurotart]

There is no definite worse, the two are incomparable.

Both slaughtered countless people, and both were awful.

But, I'd have to say hitler was a worse person. Only cause I'm Jewish

[The Murray Dynasty]

Answer; Stalin,

Reason;

20+ million casualties in WWII,

Explanation;

Code 227, Not one step backwards.

Summary;

Hitler was never insane to enforce a retreating clause on his own men. He did try to kill Jews, and several other types, but he is just a mere stain on the large carpet of genocidal leaders.

Stalin left a river, hitler left a stain

[Luw]

It's a tie. They both fail as human beings.

Well, human beings are inclined to do such things so I wouldn't say they failed completely. Human beings resort to violence as an answer no matter how "civilized" you think we may be.

Stalin killed more people but they were his own people. Hitler invaded other countries in Europe and deemed other races inferior to Aryans. Depends on whether your looking at quantity or "quality".

[Trotskylvania]

You can't measure someone's evil by body count alone. You need to look at the reasons for that body count too. This is why I consider Hitler to be far worse than Stalin- because, unlike Stalin, who created his body count through paranoia, Hitler knowingly and deliberately made it his goal to exterminate an entire race simply for existing. In essence, even if a hypothetical Jew followed every single law of Nazi Germany to the letter, singing Hitler's praises 20 times a day, gleefully hunting down anti-Nazis with a bloodthirstiness that would scare the Gestapo, etc etc, he would still get thrown in a concentration camp just because he was Jewish. Obviously this hypothetical Jew never existed, but in any case, he certainly would have survived in Stalin's USSR if he was a model Stalinist, singing Stalin's praises 20 times a day, and gleefully hunting down anti-Stalinists with a bloodthirstiness that would scare the NKVD.

Actually,he'd probably end up shot.Stalin was VERY paranoid.Even the Communist Party wasn't safe from his paranoia.Really,it seems ironic that Hitler is looked at in bad light but Stalin isn't.Maybe it's because Stalin fought on our side...we should've destroyed that bastard.

Actually, your life expectancy was inversely proportional to how powerful you were. Ordinary people got a few years hard labor in re-education camps for certain crimes, and were often pardoned if they had anything in the way of skills. Low level party members and government bureaucrats were subject to continued ideological scrutiny, and could lose their lives if they fucked up badly. Military officers and mid-level apparatchiks were heavily ideologically policed, and where often killed on the paranoid whims of the NKVD. And if you were a leader in the party, especially an old Bolshevik, or anyone connected to Trotsky in the military, trade unions or the party, you were a dead man walking.

[Numuria]

You can't measure someone's evil by body count alone. You need to look at the reasons for that body count too. This is why I consider Hitler to be far worse than Stalin- because, unlike Stalin, who created his body count through paranoia, Hitler knowingly and deliberately made it his goal to exterminate an entire race simply for existing. In essence, even if a hypothetical Jew followed every single law of Nazi Germany to the letter, singing Hitler's praises 20 times a day, gleefully hunting down anti-Nazis with a bloodthirstiness that would scare the Gestapo, etc etc, he would still get thrown in a concentration camp just because he was Jewish. Obviously this hypothetical Jew never existed, but in any case, he certainly would have survived in Stalin's USSR if he was a model Stalinist, singing Stalin's praises 20 times a day, and gleefully hunting down anti-Stalinists with a bloodthirstiness that would scare the NKVD.