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Postby Virana » Sat Aug 11, 2012 3:01 pm

To quote another above post...

:rofl:

This is called "communism", and it's been tried before. And failed each time because it's so ridiculously difficult to implement, because all people are not born the same. That's just a solid fact.

Look, those athletes that earn that much money have worked harder than some random hobo in the streets. While that hobo spends all of little bit of money on drugs, the athlete is spending countless hours training, persevering, and just working hard to become one of the best in the world. You can't say that about everyone.

I wonder who deserves that much money?
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Postby Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f » Sat Aug 11, 2012 3:01 pm

Norstal wrote:This is the worst satire I've ever read because of strawmen.


I doubt straw would allow itself to be molested in such a manner. Bullshit on the other hand...
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Postby Retro Lyra » Sat Aug 11, 2012 3:01 pm

Yes, f**k you, Douglas, for being young and talented.

Why is it everyone with that "don't tred on me" flag ends up being a wanna-be Fox news reporter?
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Postby Frisivisia » Sat Aug 11, 2012 3:01 pm

Virana wrote:To quote another above post...

:rofl:

This is called "communism", and it's been tried before. And failed each time because it's so ridiculously difficult to implement, because all people are not born the same. That's just a solid fact.

Look, those athletes that earn that much money have worked harder than some random hobo in the streets. While that hobo spends all of little bit of money on drugs, the athlete is spending countless hours training, persevering, and just working hard to become one of the best in the world. You can't say that about everyone.

I wonder who deserves that much money?

Me?
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Postby Calimera » Sat Aug 11, 2012 3:02 pm

AuSable River wrote:For the adults:

liberals cant answer my challenge of whether they think that dividing societal wealth by population is fair.

this is because their belief system is rife with contradictions and double standards.

you challenge them with their own ideological absurdities and they die on the vine.


It will break the whole US economy. Disorder the world capitalism system. And yea.. It will be the new Soviet Union.
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Postby Virana » Sat Aug 11, 2012 3:05 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Virana wrote:To quote another above post...

:rofl:

This is called "communism", and it's been tried before. And failed each time because it's so ridiculously difficult to implement, because all people are not born the same. That's just a solid fact.

Look, those athletes that earn that much money have worked harder than some random hobo in the streets. While that hobo spends all of little bit of money on drugs, the athlete is spending countless hours training, persevering, and just working hard to become one of the best in the world. You can't say that about everyone.

I wonder who deserves that much money?

Me?

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Postby Norstal » Sat Aug 11, 2012 3:05 pm

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Norstal wrote:This is the worst satire I've ever read because of strawmen.



You dont like my formula of dividing up GDP based on population ???


you must be a greedy selfish conservative.

No, because no leftists want such a plan. That's not socialism. That's your view of socialism.

To make a successful satire, you have to present the opponent's view not your own view of what their view might be. Socialists, leftists, etc. don't want to make "everyone rich" or "free money for everyone", for one.

Ergo it's a strawmen because you're providing counter-arguments for an argument that you think your opponents have made, but haven't.
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Postby Cosgravia » Sat Aug 11, 2012 3:07 pm

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Sremski okrug wrote:I'll give you 3/10


That's awfully generous of you. I think it's a 2/10 at the most.


THAT'S generous! I was thinking pile of shite/pile of shite
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Postby Frisivisia » Sat Aug 11, 2012 3:08 pm

Virana wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:Me?

No, I meant the Englar Empire.

No, I mean that I deserve the money. Why? Fuck you is why.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Aug 11, 2012 3:08 pm

I bet a lot of athletes who'd agree that they didn't win on their own. How many of them thanked their coaches and shit like that? Katie Taylor wouldn't shut up about how much God had helped her.

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Postby Wisconsin9 » Sat Aug 11, 2012 3:09 pm

3/10. Almost had me going there for a second.
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Sat Aug 11, 2012 3:09 pm

With all the people out there that have more than the average bloke, why does only Gabby Douglas get a spot in the thread title? Why single her out for this kind of hostility? She's just some girl who is good at gymnastics. What is so bad about that? I really don't see the need for the hate.

Anyway, what you are proposing is communism. It does not work because if everyone gets the same amount of money regardless of what they do, then nobody has any incentive to work hard.
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Postby AuSable River » Sat Aug 11, 2012 3:09 pm

Virana wrote:To quote another above post...

:rofl:

This is called "communism", and it's been tried before. And failed each time because it's so ridiculously difficult to implement, because all people are not born the same. That's just a solid fact.

Look, those athletes that earn that much money have worked harder than some random hobo in the streets. While that hobo spends all of little bit of money on drugs, the athlete is spending countless hours training, persevering, and just working hard to become one of the best in the world. You can't say that about everyone.

I wonder who deserves that much money?



1. wow, I didnt know that all people are not born the same !!

so I guess what your trying to say is that one-size fits all doesnt work .

I guess thats why allowing washington to make one-size fit all decisions in education, health care, transportation, banking, et al is bankrupting the nation.

I agree with you on the hobo thing. So you are not one of the liberals who thinks that we need to divide GDP by population?

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Postby Call to power » Sat Aug 11, 2012 3:09 pm

AuSable River wrote:dont you think that dividing up societal wealth by GDP/population is fair?


Nah, GDP doesn't work that way and, whilst I admire your commitment to fairness, giving people 40k a year or whatever will only lead to a rise the price of goods and the collapse of private investment (especially when inflation kicks in)

AuSable River wrote:or are you a selfish greedy conservative ?


Probably but I think its more that I'm a very bad cynic
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Postby Frisivisia » Sat Aug 11, 2012 3:10 pm

AuSable River wrote:
Virana wrote:To quote another above post...

:rofl:

This is called "communism", and it's been tried before. And failed each time because it's so ridiculously difficult to implement, because all people are not born the same. That's just a solid fact.

Look, those athletes that earn that much money have worked harder than some random hobo in the streets. While that hobo spends all of little bit of money on drugs, the athlete is spending countless hours training, persevering, and just working hard to become one of the best in the world. You can't say that about everyone.

I wonder who deserves that much money?



1. wow, I didnt know that all people are not born the same !!

so I guess what your trying to say is that one-size fits all doesnt work .

I guess thats why allowing washington to make one-size fit all decisions in education, health care, transportation, banking, et al is bankrupting the nation.

I agree with you on the hobo thing. So you are not one of the liberals who thinks that we need to divide GDP by population?

Dat Strawman.
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Postby AuSable River » Sat Aug 11, 2012 3:11 pm

Retro Lyra wrote:Yes, f**k you, Douglas, for being young and talented.

Why is it everyone with that "don't tred on me" flag ends up being a wanna-be Fox news reporter?



Yes, f**k you, small businessman who makes over $250,000 for risking your life savings and working your ass off.

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Postby Sremski okrug » Sat Aug 11, 2012 3:11 pm

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Sremski okrug wrote:I'll give you 3/10


That's awfully generous of you. I think it's a 2/10 at the most.


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Postby Williamson » Sat Aug 11, 2012 3:12 pm

Cosgravia wrote:
Avenio wrote:
That's awfully generous of you. I think it's a 2/10 at the most.


THAT'S generous! I was thinking pile of shite/pile of shite

Thats way to generous

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Postby Frisivisia » Sat Aug 11, 2012 3:12 pm

AuSable River wrote:
Retro Lyra wrote:Yes, f**k you, Douglas, for being young and talented.

Why is it everyone with that "don't tred on me" flag ends up being a wanna-be Fox news reporter?



Yes, f**k you, small businessman who makes over $250,000 for risking your life savings and working your ass off.

It's not a fuck you, that guy's got money to spare after taxes.
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Postby Zeppy » Sat Aug 11, 2012 3:12 pm

If you are talking about a negative income tax, then I would agree with you. Not to sure about pegging it to GDP per capita.

But you seem like a sad cappie, so you are probably going on a bit of a rant.

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Postby AuSable River » Sat Aug 11, 2012 3:12 pm

Call to power wrote:
AuSable River wrote:dont you think that dividing up societal wealth by GDP/population is fair?


Nah, GDP doesn't work that way and whilst I admire your commitment to fairness giving people 40k a year or whatever will only lead to a rise the price of goods and the collapse of private investment (especially when inflation kicks in)

AuSable River wrote:or are you a selfish greedy conservative ?


Probably but I think its more that I'm a very bad cynic


how do you raise prices if the quantity of money remains the same ??

you just take it from the greedy and lucky rich and give it to the unlucky hardworking poor who were born into poverty.

same amount of money chasing the same amount of goods.

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Postby Revolutopia » Sat Aug 11, 2012 3:13 pm

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Postby AuSable River » Sat Aug 11, 2012 3:15 pm

Norstal wrote:
AuSable River wrote:

You dont like my formula of dividing up GDP based on population ???


you must be a greedy selfish conservative.

No, because no leftists want such a plan. That's not socialism. That's your view of socialism.

To make a successful satire, you have to present the opponent's view not your own view of what their view might be. Socialists, leftists, etc. don't want to make "everyone rich" or "free money for everyone", for one.

Ergo it's a strawmen because you're providing counter-arguments for an argument that you think your opponents have made, but haven't.



If you dont support the most equitable plan on the table, mine.

then you sir, are a cold hearted crony capitalist!

nothing could be more far than allocating wealth equally based on population.

do you have a more fair plan than that -- you must be a banker

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Postby Frisivisia » Sat Aug 11, 2012 3:16 pm

AuSable River wrote:
Norstal wrote:No, because no leftists want such a plan. That's not socialism. That's your view of socialism.

To make a successful satire, you have to present the opponent's view not your own view of what their view might be. Socialists, leftists, etc. don't want to make "everyone rich" or "free money for everyone", for one.

Ergo it's a strawmen because you're providing counter-arguments for an argument that you think your opponents have made, but haven't.



If you dont support the most equitable plan on the table, mine.

then you sir, are a cold hearted crony capitalist!

nothing could be more far than allocating wealth equally based on population.

do you have a more fair plan than that -- you must be a banker

You're funny because you think that all liberals are ancoms.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Aug 11, 2012 3:16 pm

Revolutopia wrote:
Mitt Romney wrote:You Olympians, however, know you didn’t get here solely on your own power. For most of you, loving parents, sisters or brothers, encouraged your hopes, coaches guided, communities built venues in order to organize competitions. All Olympians stand on the shoulders of those who lifted them. We’ve already cheered the Olympians, let’s also cheer the parents, coaches, and communities.

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