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Postby Lincoltshire » Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:51 pm

LogiChristianity wrote: it is hard to deny something as clearly truth as Christianity.


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That is an absurd claim, and I am shocked that you would make it.
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Postby Retro Lyra » Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:52 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Ruridova wrote:It's in the Bible, and LC appears to believe quite firmly in that.


That's why it's silly. ;)

No, I'm joking. :p


Is this the point in the thread in which we make silly religious jokes until it either dissolves into dust or a mod locks it for spam? Goody goody, I've been waiting for this moment. *rubs hands together*
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Any time now, Lyra. Any time. Watch your car keys.

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Postby Dyakovo » Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:52 pm

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Tratvia wrote:And it raises another point: if YHVH created everyone, he created homosexuals. Why would YHVH create something He disagreed with?

No, homosexuality came with sin. Everything was perfect until Adamn and Eve sinned.

Adam and Eve never existed.
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Postby Gibberan » Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:52 pm

Whoa! Whoa! I thought this thread was about Christianity and the Bible, NOT homosexuality. Anybody whos wants to fight about homosexuality, gas, lesbians, same-sex marriges, take it to a differetnt thread. But with all due respect, nobody here want s to listen to your argument any longer.
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Postby Terruana » Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:53 pm

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No, not at all. Where did you get that from?

The appendix is, by all accounts, completely useless. Some people believe it's a vestigial organ, others think it may have had a role in the immune system, but everyone agrees that it now does nothing and can be safely removed without causing any sort of effect on the body whatsoever. It only needs to be removed, however, if it gets infected (see: Appendicitis).

http://science.howstuffworks.com/enviro ... endix3.htm


The appendix is not completely useless. It serves some small functions. However, a vestigial organ is not an organ that has lost all function. It is an organ that has lost it's original function.


True, but whatever small functions it serves are apparently undecided. According to that source I linked, scientists aren't even sure it has a function at all. Either way, it can be removed without causing any visible effect on the body, so it is to all intents and purposes, useless.
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Postby Retro Lyra » Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:53 pm

Lincoltshire wrote:
LogiChristianity wrote: it is hard to deny something as clearly truth as Christianity.


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That is an absurd claim, and I am shocked that you would make it.


Agreed. :eyebrow:
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Retro Lyra wrote:So, does this mean that since I'm white and my boyfriend is spanish he's going to rob all my money from me, scream "Hasta la vista!", and drive off into the sunset in a stolen car? Good to know.

Any time now, Lyra. Any time. Watch your car keys.

And your weed stash.

And your bedroom door. Chances are, he'll rape you first, the Genocidal Bastard.

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Postby Ruridova » Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:53 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Ruridova wrote:It's in the Bible, and LC appears to believe quite firmly in that.


That's why it's silly. ;)

No, I'm joking. :p

I'd like to thank you for at least paying attention to it. I was hoping to get a little more recognition for ten minutes of writing.
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Postby Mavorpen » Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:53 pm

Retro Lyra wrote:Is this the point in the thread in which we make silly religious jokes until it either dissolves into dust or a mod locks it for spam? Goody goody, I've been waiting for this moment. *rubs hands together*


That seems to be the inevitable fate of his threads.
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Postby Retro Lyra » Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:54 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Retro Lyra wrote:Is this the point in the thread in which we make silly religious jokes until it either dissolves into dust or a mod locks it for spam? Goody goody, I've been waiting for this moment. *rubs hands together*


That seems to be the inevitable fate of his threads.


'tis the fate of all pointless threads.
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Retro Lyra wrote:So, does this mean that since I'm white and my boyfriend is spanish he's going to rob all my money from me, scream "Hasta la vista!", and drive off into the sunset in a stolen car? Good to know.

Any time now, Lyra. Any time. Watch your car keys.

And your weed stash.

And your bedroom door. Chances are, he'll rape you first, the Genocidal Bastard.

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Postby Gibberan » Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:54 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:No, homosexuality came with sin. Everything was perfect until Adamn and Eve sinned.

Adam and Eve never existed.


And how do you know that they never existed? Do you know the backstoryof all the things that happened with Adam and Eve? Creation? The book of Genesis? The Bible? If you know about all that stuff, please tell me what they´re about.
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Postby Mavorpen » Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:54 pm

Terruana wrote:True, but whatever small functions it serves are apparently undecided. According to that source I linked, scientists aren't even sure it has a function at all. Either way, it can be removed without causing any visible effect on the body, so it is to all intents and purposes, useless.


Yeah, the debate rages on. But it's agreed upon that it's a vestigial organ.
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Postby Phing Phong » Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:55 pm

Gibberan wrote:Whoa! Whoa! I thought this thread was about Christianity and the Bible, NOT homosexuality. Anybody whos wants to fight about homosexuality, gas, lesbians, same-sex marriges, take it to a differetnt thread. But with all due respect, nobody here want s to listen to your argument any longer.

Funnily enough, the two often show up together.
And no one mentioned gas.
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Postby Mavorpen » Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:55 pm

Gibberan wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Adam and Eve never existed.


And how do you know that they never existed? Do you know the backstoryof all the things that happened with Adam and Eve? Creation? The book of Genesis? The Bible? If you know about all that stuff, please tell me what they´re about.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_evolution
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Tratvia » Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:55 pm

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You can blame Lucifer for that.


Why? God's the one who created humans with the capability to be flawed, thus, not perfect. If God did his job right, Lucifer would have no chance of corrupting mankind.


And I have still not had an answer to my question. Is God omnipotent or isn't He? Does He really want the vast majority of humankind to be subject to everlasting torture? If so, why should we worship someone so insecure?

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Postby Allbeama » Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:56 pm

Nordengrund wrote:I think I am the only non- radical Baptist in my family...


Non radical? You are pretty radical, based on your posting history.
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Postby Retro Lyra » Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:56 pm

Gibberan wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Adam and Eve never existed.


And how do you know that they never existed? Do you know the backstoryof all the things that happened with Adam and Eve? Creation? The book of Genesis? The Bible? If you know about all that stuff, please tell me what they´re about.


The better question is, how do you know?
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Retro Lyra wrote:So, does this mean that since I'm white and my boyfriend is spanish he's going to rob all my money from me, scream "Hasta la vista!", and drive off into the sunset in a stolen car? Good to know.

Any time now, Lyra. Any time. Watch your car keys.

And your weed stash.

And your bedroom door. Chances are, he'll rape you first, the Genocidal Bastard.

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Postby Gibberan » Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:56 pm

Phing Phong wrote:
Gibberan wrote:Whoa! Whoa! I thought this thread was about Christianity and the Bible, NOT homosexuality. Anybody whos wants to fight about homosexuality, gas, lesbians, same-sex marriges, take it to a differetnt thread. But with all due respect, nobody here want s to listen to your argument any longer.

Funnily enough, the two often show up together.
And no one mentioned gas.


I meant gays.
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Postby Frisivisia » Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:56 pm

Gibberan wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Adam and Eve never existed.


And how do you know that they never existed? Do you know the backstoryof all the things that happened with Adam and Eve? Creation? The book of Genesis? The Bible? If you know about all that stuff, please tell me what they´re about.

How do you know they exist? Burden of proof, natch.
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Postby Terruana » Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:57 pm

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Nordengrund wrote:I think I am the only non- radical Baptist in my family...


Non radical? You are pretty radical, based on your posting history.


It's quite sad really, if you think about it. His family are SO MUCH worse than him, he actually considers himself non-radical.
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Postby Bluvil » Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:57 pm

Gibberan wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Adam and Eve never existed.


And how do you know that they never existed? Do you know the backstoryof all the things that happened with Adam and Eve? Creation? The book of Genesis? The Bible? If you know about all that stuff, please tell me what they´re about.


If the Christian faith claims that Adam and Eve were the first two people to ever exist, then we can know that they didn't, because as science will tell you the human race in it's current form did not begin with just 1 man and 1 woman.
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Postby Samuraikoku » Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:57 pm

LogiChristianity wrote:and it is hard to deny something as clearly truth as Christianity.


For the third time:

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Postby Retro Lyra » Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:58 pm

On the sidebar right now is this pointless thread and another abortion thread.

NS, NS, NS...
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Retro Lyra wrote:So, does this mean that since I'm white and my boyfriend is spanish he's going to rob all my money from me, scream "Hasta la vista!", and drive off into the sunset in a stolen car? Good to know.

Any time now, Lyra. Any time. Watch your car keys.

And your weed stash.

And your bedroom door. Chances are, he'll rape you first, the Genocidal Bastard.

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Postby Samuraikoku » Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:58 pm

Nordengrund wrote:I think I am the only non- radical Baptist in my family...


Says someone who wishes to be an autocrat of the United States of America.

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Postby Nordengrund » Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:59 pm

[quote="Ruridova";p="10498139"]Okay, I'm going to reiterate my statement and hope that LogiChristianity notices this time. I have to go before too lnog, so I might not see the response until tomorrow, but here goes:

LogiChristianity, I understand that you want to express yourself, tell others the "good news", so on and so forth. I can see that you put a lot of effort into starting these threads with large posts instead of one-liners like so many other people do. And I am entirely honest when I say that, if you were to start an alt and spend some time chatting around with people on NS, we would enjoy your company. You're hardworking, devoted, you try to be kind no matter how hard it is, and you have a sense of duty that will get you far both inside and outside NationStates.
I know that you believe it is your goal, purpose, destiny, whatever you call it to tell us all about your beliefs, your faith, your solace and belief and spirituality, about how you love it so much and you suspect we might too. I can understand wanting what you feel is the best for others. It's only human after all. But you're also not the first to try this. I feel that NationStates has made itself perfectly clear about its opinions: we hold very dear to them, and will not be convinced to change them because we like who we are. I suspect you would feel the same way if someone was trying to convert you.

I deleted some of your post because I did not want this post to be long. After reading this, I am still determined to spread the "Good News, but I will not shove it down people's throats. I will tell them about Jesus, and if they reject him I will move on.

We are all human and no one is perfect, not even Christians. I think before we can spread the Gospel, the Christian divisions must work together.

Like everyone (or at least most people) I have my convictions about things such as abortion and homosexuality, but I do not believe it is our job to judge others, for that job is reserved for God and God alone. Instead we should find out for ourselves what we believe and what we believe is right and what is wrong. The world would be a much better place if we were to put the quarreling aside.
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Postby Avenio » Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:59 pm

Gibberan wrote:And how do you know that they never existed? Do you know the backstoryof all the things that happened with Adam and Eve? Creation? The book of Genesis? The Bible? If you know about all that stuff, please tell me what they´re about.


Notably, because the Hebrew creation myth depicted in Genesis is rather typical of the cultural milieu of the Middle East of the time; many of the stories of the Bible have parallels in the myths of nearby and related cultures - indeed, the Sumerian account of Ziusudra and a seperate Great Flood caused by the gods becoming angry with humanity for causing too much noise is extremely similar to the much younger Hebrew version.

Sacred Texts.com wrote:All the windstorms, exceedingly powerful, attacked as one,
The deluge raged over the surface of the earth. p. 98
After, for seven days and seven nights,
The deluge had raged in the land,
And the huge boat had been tossed about on the great waters,
Utu came forth, who sheds light on heaven and earth.
Ziusudra opened a window of the huge boat,
Ziusudra, the king,
Before Utu prostrated himself,
The king kills an ox, slaughters a sheep.
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