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Yeah, Douglas should wear a patriotic leotard
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Postby Pope Joan » Wed Aug 08, 2012 8:52 pm

Linux and the X wrote:As I pointed out when I heard about this shit: "The flag should never be used as wearing apparel..." 4 USC §8(d).


That's a great point.

I guess it's only illegal when non-Republicans are wearing it.
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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Aug 08, 2012 8:52 pm

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Cronos Republic wrote:Huffington Post is much more of a joke than any other news network

No, it really isn't. It's incredibly sensationalist, but it's much more credible than Daily Kos, Drudge Report, FOX Nation, WND, etc.

Cronos Republic wrote:there is a reason why MSNBC is last

The fact that it isn't basic cable?

I wouldn't trust the HuffPo on science as far as I could throw Arianna Huffington.
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Postby Wamitoria » Wed Aug 08, 2012 8:53 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Wamitoria wrote:No, it really isn't. It's incredibly sensationalist, but it's much more credible than Daily Kos, Drudge Report, FOX Nation, WND, etc.


The fact that it isn't basic cable?

I wouldn't trust the HuffPo on science as far as I could throw Arianna Huffington.

I wouldn't trust them on finance either, but they aren't bad when reporting things that are described in this thread.
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Postby Ulvena » Wed Aug 08, 2012 8:55 pm

Farnhamia wrote:I wouldn't trust the HuffPo on science as far as I could throw Arianna Huffington.


On science? Well...of course. Nearly all media is so disgustingly inaccurate with scientific stories, it's terrible.

OP: I consider myself a South Korean patriot. I didn't get mad when South Korea didn't don uniforms that didn't have the TaeGukGi (Name of Korean Flag. Kind of like how Americans call their flag the Stars and Stripes) on it.

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Postby Wamitoria » Wed Aug 08, 2012 8:57 pm

Ulvena wrote:OP: I consider myself a South Korean patriot. I didn't get mad when South Korea didn't don uniforms that didn't have the TaeGukGi (Name of Korean Flag. Kind of like how Americans call their flag the Stars and Stripes) on it.

That's because you're sane.
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Postby Ulvena » Wed Aug 08, 2012 9:01 pm

Wamitoria wrote:
Ulvena wrote:OP: I consider myself a South Korean patriot. I didn't get mad when South Korea didn't don uniforms that didn't have the TaeGukGi (Name of Korean Flag. Kind of like how Americans call their flag the Stars and Stripes) on it.

That's because you're sane.


Well I try to give U.S people the benefit of the doubt. Here in Washington State, I've met some stupid Americans...but I've also met a lot of smart ones as well.

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Postby Wamitoria » Wed Aug 08, 2012 9:05 pm

Ulvena wrote:
Wamitoria wrote:That's because you're sane.


Well I try to give U.S people the benefit of the doubt. Here in Washington State, I've met some stupid Americans...but I've also met a lot of smart ones as well.

I'm not saying that Americans are all insane (or sane, for that matter). After all, I'm one of them.

I'm just saying that people who honestly get pissed off about your olympic uniforms not being flag-y enough are crazy.
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Postby Helgafjord » Wed Aug 08, 2012 11:56 pm

Just thinking about my swim team designing our own suits, it's simply tradition to include team colors in the suit. I thought that in the flashback pics/vids of the 1996 team, the flag themed gymnastics suits just LOOKED better, other things equal. So essentially, while it's not paramount for everything to be all flag themed, it IS tradition. I mean I don't get yelled at for wearing a suit with different colors/non-team suit, but for each competition, I do my damnedest to wear my team suit. Again, it's not like that one male American gymnast's towel needs to be replaced with a flag colored one.

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Postby Tekania » Thu Aug 09, 2012 4:34 am

Helgafjord wrote:Just thinking about my swim team designing our own suits, it's simply tradition to include team colors in the suit. I thought that in the flashback pics/vids of the 1996 team, the flag themed gymnastics suits just LOOKED better, other things equal. So essentially, while it's not paramount for everything to be all flag themed, it IS tradition. I mean I don't get yelled at for wearing a suit with different colors/non-team suit, but for each competition, I do my damnedest to wear my team suit. Again, it's not like that one male American gymnast's towel needs to be replaced with a flag colored one.


It's not tradition at all. There have been a few times where they were flag themed..... most of the time it has been solid colors (most often white) with a USA moniker on it somewhere.
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Postby Northern Dominus » Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:12 am

Helgafjord wrote:Just thinking about my swim team designing our own suits, it's simply tradition to include team colors in the suit. I thought that in the flashback pics/vids of the 1996 team, the flag themed gymnastics suits just LOOKED better, other things equal. So essentially, while it's not paramount for everything to be all flag themed, it IS tradition. I mean I don't get yelled at for wearing a suit with different colors/non-team suit, but for each competition, I do my damnedest to wear my team suit. Again, it's not like that one male American gymnast's towel needs to be replaced with a flag colored one.
Okay... that's the tradition for your particular swim team. All fine and dandy but this isn't about your swim team's traditions, and if you're going to tow that line then you had better have proof that American Olympic gynmnasts have an established history of wearing flag-motif leotards.

Also, you know what? It's not exactly an even comparison is it? Your cruddy little municipal swim team vs a young woman who is exceptionally talented and determined. I think she deserves a bit of leeway and freedom from the opinion of a handful of swimmers who probably will never see a D3 scholarship let alone a professional swimming contract or an Olympic pool, don't you?
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Postby Tekania » Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:59 am

Northern Dominus wrote:
Helgafjord wrote:Just thinking about my swim team designing our own suits, it's simply tradition to include team colors in the suit. I thought that in the flashback pics/vids of the 1996 team, the flag themed gymnastics suits just LOOKED better, other things equal. So essentially, while it's not paramount for everything to be all flag themed, it IS tradition. I mean I don't get yelled at for wearing a suit with different colors/non-team suit, but for each competition, I do my damnedest to wear my team suit. Again, it's not like that one male American gymnast's towel needs to be replaced with a flag colored one.
Okay... that's the tradition for your particular swim team. All fine and dandy but this isn't about your swim team's traditions, and if you're going to tow that line then you had better have proof that American Olympic gynmnasts have an established history of wearing flag-motif leotards.

Also, you know what? It's not exactly an even comparison is it? Your cruddy little municipal swim team vs a young woman who is exceptionally talented and determined. I think she deserves a bit of leeway and freedom from the opinion of a handful of swimmers who probably will never see a D3 scholarship let alone a professional swimming contract or an Olympic pool, don't you?


That's okay, about 30 years from now people will know the name Gabby Douglas, just like people remember still Mary Lou Retton..... but not know who the hell that bitch was on Fox News (hell, I can't remember her name already, but that may just be a subconscious memory block).
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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:19 am

Tekania wrote:
Helgafjord wrote:Just thinking about my swim team designing our own suits, it's simply tradition to include team colors in the suit. I thought that in the flashback pics/vids of the 1996 team, the flag themed gymnastics suits just LOOKED better, other things equal. So essentially, while it's not paramount for everything to be all flag themed, it IS tradition. I mean I don't get yelled at for wearing a suit with different colors/non-team suit, but for each competition, I do my damnedest to wear my team suit. Again, it's not like that one male American gymnast's towel needs to be replaced with a flag colored one.


It's not tradition at all. There have been a few times where they were flag themed..... most of the time it has been solid colors (most often white) with a USA moniker on it somewhere.

Everything is "tradition" when you're 15, remember?
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Postby Franklin Delano Bluth » Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:01 am

Pope Joan wrote:
Linux and the X wrote:As I pointed out when I heard about this shit: "The flag should never be used as wearing apparel..." 4 USC §8(d).


That's a great point.


It's really not.

For it to be using the flag as "wearing apparel," it has to be, you know, an actual flag. Not something with the flag pattern, but an actual flag.
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Postby Northern Dominus » Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:08 am

Tekania wrote:
Northern Dominus wrote:Okay... that's the tradition for your particular swim team. All fine and dandy but this isn't about your swim team's traditions, and if you're going to tow that line then you had better have proof that American Olympic gymnasts have an established history of wearing flag-motif leotards.

Also, you know what? It's not exactly an even comparison is it? Your cruddy little municipal swim team vs a young woman who is exceptionally talented and determined. I think she deserves a bit of leeway and freedom from the opinion of a handful of swimmers who probably will never see a D3 scholarship let alone a professional swimming contract or an Olympic pool, don't you?


That's okay, about 30 years from now people will know the name Gabby Douglas, just like people remember still Mary Lou Retton..... but not know who the hell that bitch was on Fox News (hell, I can't remember her name already, but that may just be a subconscious memory block).
Let's see...blond shrew that can't stand anybody else having attention other than her... um... er... wait don't they go by their batch numbers these days? We all know that Murdoch clones his blonde leggy shrew reporters in a secret facility underneath a volcano (as all Bond villain archetypes do)?
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Postby Telesha » Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:12 am

Northern Dominus wrote:
Tekania wrote:
That's okay, about 30 years from now people will know the name Gabby Douglas, just like people remember still Mary Lou Retton..... but not know who the hell that bitch was on Fox News (hell, I can't remember her name already, but that may just be a subconscious memory block).
Let's see...blond shrew that can't stand anybody else having attention other than her... um... er... wait don't they go by their batch numbers these days? We all know that Murdoch clones his blonde leggy shrew reporters in a secret facility underneath a volcano (as all Bond villain archetypes do)?


Murdoch is Friend Computer? :blink:

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Postby Tekania » Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:17 am

Farnhamia wrote:
Tekania wrote:
It's not tradition at all. There have been a few times where they were flag themed..... most of the time it has been solid colors (most often white) with a USA moniker on it somewhere.

Everything is "tradition" when you're 15, remember?


You do it more than once and it's a "tradition".
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Postby Northern Dominus » Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:39 am

Tekania wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Everything is "tradition" when you're 15, remember?


You do it more than once and it's a "tradition".

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Postby Franklin Delano Bluth » Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:22 am

Time to go re-read our Hobsbawm, folks.
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Postby Helgafjord » Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:37 pm

Northern Dominus wrote:
Helgafjord wrote:Just thinking about my swim team designing our own suits, it's simply tradition to include team colors in the suit. I thought that in the flashback pics/vids of the 1996 team, the flag themed gymnastics suits just LOOKED better, other things equal. So essentially, while it's not paramount for everything to be all flag themed, it IS tradition. I mean I don't get yelled at for wearing a suit with different colors/non-team suit, but for each competition, I do my damnedest to wear my team suit. Again, it's not like that one male American gymnast's towel needs to be replaced with a flag colored one.
Okay... that's the tradition for your particular swim team. All fine and dandy but this isn't about your swim team's traditions, and if you're going to tow that line then you had better have proof that American Olympic gynmnasts have an established history of wearing flag-motif leotards.

Also, you know what? It's not exactly an even comparison is it? Your cruddy little municipal swim team vs a young woman who is exceptionally talented and determined. I think she deserves a bit of leeway and freedom from the opinion of a handful of swimmers who probably will never see a D3 scholarship let alone a professional swimming contract or an Olympic pool, don't you?


Late at night after most of a long week, "flag themed" seemed like the right phrase, but what I meant is, in the case of the US, just red white, AND/OR blue, AND/OR stars and stripes.

Obviously it's not about my team's traditions. I was just drawing from personal experience. :palm:

I do not doubt the talent and determination of Douglas-I was/am just as supportive of her as you were. But, I guess I can't be supportive, because compared to her, my opinion doesn't matter-didn't think through this one, did ya? About those scholarships and contracts-well...whether you believe it or not, we've had swimmers go to the Olympic trials and Olympics. Your blind, unfounded, and quite frankly hilarious rage against me and my team is underscored when one realizes that Olympic sized pools are wide spread, and in fact, I just spent 3 hours in one today.

Tell me, though, do you get regular, strenuous physical exercise, do you have a D3, higher, or professional contract, and do you see, let alone use an Olympic sized pool?

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Postby Gauntleted Fist » Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:41 pm

Helgafjord wrote:Tell me, though, do you get regular, strenuous physical exercise, do you have a D3, higher, or professional contract, and do you see, let alone use an Olympic sized pool?

Is this some swimmer-form of Internet Tough Guy?

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Postby Dyakovo » Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:43 pm

Gauntleted Fist wrote:
Helgafjord wrote:Tell me, though, do you get regular, strenuous physical exercise, do you have a D3, higher, or professional contract, and do you see, let alone use an Olympic sized pool?

Is this some swimmer-form of Internet Tough Guy?

It sure seems like it...
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:47 pm

Gauntleted Fist wrote:
Helgafjord wrote:Tell me, though, do you get regular, strenuous physical exercise, do you have a D3, higher, or professional contract, and do you see, let alone use an Olympic sized pool?

Is this some swimmer-form of Internet Tough Guy?

Internet Fish Guy.

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Postby Helgafjord » Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:55 pm

Gauntleted Fist wrote:
Helgafjord wrote:Tell me, though, do you get regular, strenuous physical exercise, do you have a D3, higher, or professional contract, and do you see, let alone use an Olympic sized pool?

Is this some swimmer-form of Internet Tough Guy?


It's a question.

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Postby Roman-South German-Adminstration » Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:08 pm

These people are just a gang of paranoid right wing folks who have no idea about genuine conservatism or patriotism.

Also it used to be considered disrespectful in this nation to have the stars and stripes on anything besides the flag itself.

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Postby Helgafjord » Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:13 pm

Roman-South German-Adminstration wrote:These people are just a gang of paranoid right wing folks who have no idea about genuine conservatism or patriotism.

Also it used to be considered disrespectful in this nation to have the stars and stripes on anything besides the flag itself.


Yep I'm on the right, but I do think it's losing our way if we're/they're making it a big issue.

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