Monarchy vs Republic

[Caninope]

But autocracy isn't always a monarchy.

True. Yeah, bad autocrats can destroy a nation worse than any bad President.

Some Presidents are autocrats.

[Ulvena]

True. Yeah, bad autocrats can destroy a nation worse than any bad President.

Some Presidents are autocrats.

Are you going somewhere with this?

[Caninope]

Some Presidents are autocrats.

Are you going somewhere with this?

Don't equate monarchs with autocrats.

[Saluterre]

A republic. A government draws its legitimacy from it's governed.

[Forsher]

Only that most of the dark blue countries are monarchies. Everywhere else is radically different.

Do you know what distinguishes the dark blue countries from the others?

It doesn't matter, the claim is false.

[United States of Republicans]

The Republic is better republic gives the law and freedom

[Alaje]

A republic. A government draws its legitimacy from it's governed.

Seconded.

[Silver Luna Enchantment]

I enjoy Constitutional Monarchy, and then you've got the best of both worlds. Anything to do with royalty fascinates me a lot. Probably because I always wanted to be a Princess when I was a little girl.

[Forsher]

The Republic is better republic gives the law and freedom

And monarchies don't?

A republic. A government draws its legitimacy from it's governed.

Seconded.

You are aware the vast majority of monarchies today are democracies, right? And if you want to say they're less so they're not. In fact, of the top ten most democratic countries most are (constitutional monarchies) which means that being a monarchy is no barrier to democracy (or, alternatively, there's nothing inherently more democratic about a republic).

[Leepaidamba]

Do you know what distinguishes the dark blue countries from the others?

the iron curtain?

I've hidden a nifty link in that image. Click it.

[Leepaidamba]

Do you know what distinguishes the dark blue countries from the others?

It doesn't matter, the claim is false.

Go, on then, what claim? All I'm claiming its that monarchies have certain attitudes more often than republics.

[Ulvena]

Are you going somewhere with this?

Don't equate monarchs with autocrats.

Fair enough. But it is true that some monarchs are autocrats.

[Forsher]

It doesn't matter, the claim is false.

Go, on then, what claim? All I'm claiming its that monarchies have certain attitudes more often than republics.

That the two map's are eerily similar.

[Tropical Isles]

monarchy

[Confederate Socialist States of America]

Down with all Monarchies. UP WITH FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY!!!

[Allmann]

I say Elective Monarchy.

[Forsher]

Down with all Monarchies. UP WITH FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY!!!

(Image)

Again freedom tends to exist in monarchies as with democracy. The same holds true of republics.

[Tuthina]

Monarchy. Long live the Queen!

Personally, I believe that by having a monarch (especially ones that are good) as a figurehead can provide a more solid (not to mention interactive) centre for patriotism without the damned implication of nationalism. After all, when nationalism goes out of hand in a monarchy, having the monarch bashing the nationalists can help hamper their advance, but such thing cannot happen in a republic, where your interpretation of "patriot" is as good as the others.

[Leepaidamba]

Go, on then, what claim? All I'm claiming its that monarchies have certain attitudes more often than republics.

That the two map's are eerily similar.

Well, then that's too bad, because they are. I can switch around colours in that map such that they're still meaningful, be it less nuanced, and it'll look a lot like the other map. I call that eerily similar just as much as I call these eerily similar.

[Leepaidamba]

I say Elective Monarchy.

What sort exactly, because there are a lot to choose from even then?

[Forsher]

That the two map's are eerily similar.

Well, then that's too bad, because they are. I can switch around colours in that map such that they're still meaningful, be it less nuanced, and it'll look a lot like the other map. I call that eerily similar just as much as I call these eerily similar.

They aren't because, well, only the monarchies and the dark blue are mostly the same. That does it in right there.

[Everbeek]

Well, then that's too bad, because they are. I can switch around colours in that map such that they're still meaningful, be it less nuanced, and it'll look a lot like the other map. I call that eerily similar just as much as I call these eerily similar.

They aren't because, well, only the monarchies and the dark blue are mostly the same. That does it in right there.

You seem to be completely missing the point he is making.

[Ulvena]

Monarchy. Long live the Queen!

Personally, I believe that by having a monarch (especially ones that are good) as a figurehead can provide a more solid (not to mention interactive) centre for patriotism without the damned implication of nationalism. After all, when nationalism goes out of hand in a monarchy, having the monarch bashing the nationalists can help hamper their advance, but such thing cannot happen in a republic, where your interpretation of "patriot" is as good as the others.

Agreed. That, and like London, you can attract quite a lot of tourists. There is a certain appeal to taking a tour through a castle/palace and knowing that a real, living monarch lives there. After all, in London, the monarch really doesn't do much. She's there mostly for show, tradition, and the land the Royal Family gave to parliament gives A LOT of money to the U.K.

[Forsher]

They aren't because, well, only the monarchies and the dark blue are mostly the same. That does it in right there.

You seem to be completely missing the point he is making.

Or, alternatively, I am ignoring his point. What he should do is admit he is wrong and ammend his statement to something more accurate. Such as, "I find the degree of overlap between the dark blue and red parts of the map eery." As it stands they are too different.

[Allmann]

I say Elective Monarchy.

What sort exactly, because there are a lot to choose from even then?

A'la Witenagemot or general Scandinavian elective monarchies, though open for all who are eligible to vote.
Possibly have a x amount of years that person would be King or Queen, sort of like a Presidency but with a different title. The King/Queen would also have no power except being a living billboard.

I am not a huge fan of the whole hereditary monarchy thing.