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Postby Todlichebujoku » Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:06 pm

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Todlichebujoku wrote:I AM BECAUSE I AM.

Indoor voice, please.

Sorry. Just paraphrasing God and making some point about something.
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:07 pm

LogiChristianity wrote:Do you believe in water? Then you believe in God. Thus, Noah's ark could have happened realistically.

Water...colorless, odorless and without taste, and yet no living thing can survive without it. Plants, animals and human beings consist mostly of water (about two-thirds of the human body is water). You'll see why the characteristics of water are uniquely suited to life:

It has an unusually high boiling point and freezing point. Water allows us to live in an environment of fluctuating temperature changes, while keeping our bodies a steady 98.6 degrees.

Water is a universal solvent. This property of water means that various chemicals, minerals and nutrients can be carried throughout our bodies and into the smallest blood vessels.5

Water is also chemically neutral. Without affecting the makeup of the substances it carries, water enables food, medicines and minerals to be absorbed and used by the body.

Water has a unique surface tension. Water in plants can therefore flow upward against gravity, bringing life-giving water and nutrients to the top of even the tallest trees.

Water freezes from the top down and floats, so fish can live in the winter.

Ninety-seven percent of the Earth's water is in the oceans. But on our Earth, there is a system designed which removes salt from the water and then distributes that water throughout the globe. Evaporation takes the ocean waters, leaving the salt, and forms clouds which are easily moved by the wind to disperse water over the land, for vegetation, animals and people. It is a system of purification and supply that sustains life on this planet, a system of recycled and reused water.6

http://www.everystudent.com/features/isthere.html

Also, this isn't a biased source.

Piffle. If we'd evolved in a methane atmosphere people like you would be saying the same thing about the wonderfulness of ammonia.
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Postby Samuraikoku » Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:07 pm

LogiChristianity wrote:God is above absolutes.


Then God is relative?

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Postby Individuality-ness » Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:07 pm

LogiChristianity wrote:Do you believe in water? Then you believe in God. Thus, Noah's ark could have happened realistically.

Water...colorless, odorless and without taste, and yet no living thing can survive without it. Plants, animals and human beings consist mostly of water (about two-thirds of the human body is water). You'll see why the characteristics of water are uniquely suited to life:

It has an unusually high boiling point and freezing point. Water allows us to live in an environment of fluctuating temperature changes, while keeping our bodies a steady 98.6 degrees.

Water is a universal solvent. This property of water means that various chemicals, minerals and nutrients can be carried throughout our bodies and into the smallest blood vessels.5

Water is also chemically neutral. Without affecting the makeup of the substances it carries, water enables food, medicines and minerals to be absorbed and used by the body.

Water has a unique surface tension. Water in plants can therefore flow upward against gravity, bringing life-giving water and nutrients to the top of even the tallest trees.

Water freezes from the top down and floats, so fish can live in the winter.

Ninety-seven percent of the Earth's water is in the oceans. But on our Earth, there is a system designed which removes salt from the water and then distributes that water throughout the globe. Evaporation takes the ocean waters, leaving the salt, and forms clouds which are easily moved by the wind to disperse water over the land, for vegetation, animals and people. It is a system of purification and supply that sustains life on this planet, a system of recycled and reused water.6

http://www.everystudent.com/features/isthere.html

Also, this isn't a biased source.

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Postby Sociobiology » Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:07 pm

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Absolute morality is a terrible argument for a moral god.


God is above absolutes.

so god both does and does not exist?
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:07 pm

Todlichebujoku wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Indoor voice, please.

Sorry. Just paraphrasing God and making some point about something.

All the shouting and roaring is what made Yahweh's wife leave him.
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Postby The Tiger Kingdom » Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:08 pm

Water - that is, the combination of hydrogen and oxygen - predates life. Thus, all life evolved to utilize water, as it was fairly prevalent on this planet. If not water, it would've been something else. Like ammonia!
Not the other way around.
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Postby Veladio » Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:08 pm

LogiChristianity wrote:Do you believe in water? Then you believe in God. Thus, Noah's ark could have happened realistically.

Water...colorless, odorless and without taste, and yet no living thing can survive without it. Plants, animals and human beings consist mostly of water (about two-thirds of the human body is water). You'll see why the characteristics of water are uniquely suited to life:

It has an unusually high boiling point and freezing point. Water allows us to live in an environment of fluctuating temperature changes, while keeping our bodies a steady 98.6 degrees.

Water is a universal solvent. This property of water means that various chemicals, minerals and nutrients can be carried throughout our bodies and into the smallest blood vessels.5

Water is also chemically neutral. Without affecting the makeup of the substances it carries, water enables food, medicines and minerals to be absorbed and used by the body.

Water has a unique surface tension. Water in plants can therefore flow upward against gravity, bringing life-giving water and nutrients to the top of even the tallest trees.

Water freezes from the top down and floats, so fish can live in the winter.

Ninety-seven percent of the Earth's water is in the oceans. But on our Earth, there is a system designed which removes salt from the water and then distributes that water throughout the globe. Evaporation takes the ocean waters, leaving the salt, and forms clouds which are easily moved by the wind to disperse water over the land, for vegetation, animals and people. It is a system of purification and supply that sustains life on this planet, a system of recycled and reused water.6

http://www.everystudent.com/features/isthere.html

Also, this isn't a biased source.

I forget who posted this first but...Abiogenesis is a good fecking explanation.
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Postby Samuraikoku » Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:08 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Todlichebujoku wrote:Sorry. Just paraphrasing God and making some point about something.

All the shouting and roaring is what made Yahweh's wife leave him.


Poor woman / female deity. :(

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Postby LogiChristianity » Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:08 pm

Samuraikoku wrote:
LogiChristianity wrote:God is above absolutes.


Then God is relative?


No, God is above and beyond everything.
Get it? Logic + Christianity = Logichristianity = Jesus = Salvation = Heaven = God = Oneness.

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Postby Sociobiology » Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:09 pm

LogiChristianity wrote:Do you believe in water? Then you believe in God.


B does not follow from A.

logic error

redo from start.
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Postby Northwest Slobovia » Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:09 pm

LogiChristianity wrote:http://www.everystudent.com/features/isthere.html

Also, this isn't a biased source.

:rofl:

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Postby Samuraikoku » Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:09 pm

LogiChristianity wrote:No, God is above and beyond everything.


So it's more relative than you think.

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Postby Tlaceceyaya » Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:09 pm

LogiChristianity wrote:
Samuraikoku wrote:
Then God is relative?


No, God is above and beyond everything.

Not below and within everything as well? How absolute.
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Postby San Leggera » Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:10 pm

LogiChristianity wrote:Do you believe in water? Then you believe in God. Thus, Noah's ark could have happened realistically.

Water...colorless, odorless and without taste, and yet no living thing can survive without it. Plants, animals and human beings consist mostly of water (about two-thirds of the human body is water). You'll see why the characteristics of water are uniquely suited to life:

It has an unusually high boiling point and freezing point. Water allows us to live in an environment of fluctuating temperature changes, while keeping our bodies a steady 98.6 degrees.

Water is a universal solvent. This property of water means that various chemicals, minerals and nutrients can be carried throughout our bodies and into the smallest blood vessels.5

Water is also chemically neutral. Without affecting the makeup of the substances it carries, water enables food, medicines and minerals to be absorbed and used by the body.

Water has a unique surface tension. Water in plants can therefore flow upward against gravity, bringing life-giving water and nutrients to the top of even the tallest trees.

Water freezes from the top down and floats, so fish can live in the winter.

Ninety-seven percent of the Earth's water is in the oceans. But on our Earth, there is a system designed which removes salt from the water and then distributes that water throughout the globe. Evaporation takes the ocean waters, leaving the salt, and forms clouds which are easily moved by the wind to disperse water over the land, for vegetation, animals and people. It is a system of purification and supply that sustains life on this planet, a system of recycled and reused water.6

http://www.everystudent.com/features/isthere.html

Also, this isn't a biased source.

Actually it is - three of the six categories in the site's navbar are about saying why god exists.
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Postby The Humanist Federation » Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:10 pm

LogiChristianity wrote:
Samuraikoku wrote:
Then God is relative?


No, God is above and beyond everything.


Then why would he care about rather or not I eat shellfish? Or where and what I put my penis in?

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Postby Tmutarakhan » Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:10 pm

LogiChristianity wrote:
Samuraikoku wrote:
Source for them being real?


Well, this proves that God exists.

http://proofthatgodexists.org/logic.php

Your position really contradicts your own source:
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Postby LogiChristianity » Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:11 pm

The Humanist Federation wrote:
LogiChristianity wrote:
No, God is above and beyond everything.


Then why would he care about rather or not I eat shellfish? Or where and what I put my penis in?


Because God is above and beyond everything, but you aren't.
Get it? Logic + Christianity = Logichristianity = Jesus = Salvation = Heaven = God = Oneness.

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Postby Des-Bal » Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:11 pm

LogiChristianity wrote:
Because God is above and beyond everything, but you aren't.


That is the opposite of an answer.
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Postby Samuraikoku » Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:11 pm

LogiChristianity wrote:Because God is above and beyond everything, but you aren't.


If he's above and beyond everything, it means he has no base to judge humans.

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Postby LogiChristianity » Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:11 pm

San Leggera wrote:
LogiChristianity wrote:Do you believe in water? Then you believe in God. Thus, Noah's ark could have happened realistically.


http://www.everystudent.com/features/isthere.html

Also, this isn't a biased source.

Actually it is - three of the six categories in the site's navbar are about saying why god exists.


But they came to that opinion objectively.
Get it? Logic + Christianity = Logichristianity = Jesus = Salvation = Heaven = God = Oneness.

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Postby Veladio » Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:12 pm

LogiChristianity wrote:
Samuraikoku wrote:
Then God is relative?


No, God is above and beyond everything.

Sauce.
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Postby Northwest Slobovia » Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:12 pm

LogiChristianity wrote:
Samuraikoku wrote:
Then God is relative?


No, God is above and beyond everything.

Your source, please.
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:12 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
LogiChristianity wrote:
Because God is above and beyond everything, but you aren't.


That is the opposite of an answer.

It's his only answer, in its most distilled form.
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Postby The Humanist Federation » Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:12 pm

LogiChristianity wrote:
The Humanist Federation wrote:
Then why would he care about rather or not I eat shellfish? Or where and what I put my penis in?


Because God is above and beyond everything, but you aren't.


You still haven't explained why he wishes to micromanage my life and give me bro tips on how to pay for and maintain my slaves.

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