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Could Noah's Ark Have Happened Realistically? Well, Yes.

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Postby The Orson Empire » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:11 pm

I believe it could have happened. God can do anything.

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Postby Huskvarneque » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:12 pm

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You might not be trolling, but you can still be being funny to some people, that's a matter of opinion if your being funny. Just because you don't mean to be, doesn't mean you aren't to some people... perspective is a bitch.

And also... I'm really sick of these threads... I believe this point was made, how did all the fish survive? If a flood happened then all the water would be turned to salt water, fresh water fish would die, unless of course, they were on said Ark... so there had to be some fish on that Ark. Also, the problems of only having a male and a female of a species on the boat, not only the inbreeding and genetic problems that would have happened due to the extreme incest, how did Noah keep all the animals from killing one another? Not all animals get along... some hunt other's, and keeping them contained for so long without these troubles is extremely difficult. And plus, food, not all animals hibernate, and saying they were just given the ability to is insane, and cheating, you need a better explanation other then "god did it". And those aren't even all the holes in this, this statement has so many holes it'd sink in a real debate.... (I don't much consider NS 'real debating', no offence xP). Sorry, I just don't see it being possible... :/


Why is "God did it" NOT a reasonable answer?


I have two forms of logic here I will use, which will have two answers, you pick which you like...

Answer 1: Because it just isn't.
Answer 2: You can't insert something as evidence if the evidence itself isn't even fact... and sorry, god isn't a scientific fact. :/

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Postby Noobubersland » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:12 pm

So, Op, I ask again. Why is it that China, a mostly atheist and Confucian state, doing better then the Christian world if the Christian God exists? Why is Sweden, a country that is 80% atheist, doing better then Italy?
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Postby Veladio » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:12 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:I believe it could have happened. God can do anything.

How? Prove it.
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Postby The Drone Empire » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:12 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:I believe it could have happened. God can do anything.



If he existed, sure.

And if he does, he sure must be lazy.
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Postby Doctor whooves » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:13 pm

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Why is "God did it" NOT a reasonable answer?



The same reason "The Dog did it" isn't when the cookie jar is empty.

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Postby Huskvarneque » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:13 pm

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You might not be trolling, but you can still be being funny to some people, that's a matter of opinion if your being funny. Just because you don't mean to be, doesn't mean you aren't to some people... perspective is a bitch.

And also... I'm really sick of these threads... I believe this point was made, how did all the fish survive? If a flood happened then all the water would be turned to salt water, fresh water fish would die, unless of course, they were on said Ark... so there had to be some fish on that Ark. Also, the problems of only having a male and a female of a species on the boat, not only the inbreeding and genetic problems that would have happened due to the extreme incest, how did Noah keep all the animals from killing one another? Not all animals get along... some hunt other's, and keeping them contained for so long without these troubles is extremely difficult. And plus, food, not all animals hibernate, and saying they were just given the ability to is insane, and cheating, you need a better explanation other then "god did it". And those aren't even all the holes in this, this statement has so many holes it'd sink in a real debate.... (I don't much consider NS 'real debating', no offence xP). Sorry, I just don't see it being possible... :/


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Postby Northwest Slobovia » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:13 pm

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Welcome to NSG we enjoy beating dead horses.


Sadonecrobestiality FTW.

Gotta work an "equu" in there somewhere, because we don't just beat any old dead animal.
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Postby Avenio » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:13 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:I believe it could have happened. God can do anything.


Can God create a rock so heavy that he can't lift it?

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Postby Huskvarneque » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:14 pm

Northwest Slobovia wrote:
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Sadonecrobestiality FTW.

Gotta work an "equu" in there somewhere, because we don't just beat any old dead animal.

Sadonecroequubestiality xD

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Postby The Orson Empire » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:14 pm

Veladio wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:I believe it could have happened. God can do anything.

How? Prove it.

Look around you. He made it all. Sometimes you don't need proof, you just believe.

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Postby Tmutarakhan » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:14 pm

Noobubersland wrote:Why is Sweden, a country that is 80% atheist, doing better then Italy?

*raises hand, waves it frantically* Ooh, ooh, call on me!

Because Catholics aren't REEEEAAALLL Christians!
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Postby Big Jim P » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:14 pm

Northwest Slobovia wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
Sadonecrobestiality FTW.

Gotta work an "equu" in there somewhere, because we don't just beat any old dead animal.


Equusadonecrobestiality. Hows that?
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Postby Transhuman Proteus » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:15 pm

LogiChristianity wrote:
Huskvarneque wrote:
You might not be trolling, but you can still be being funny to some people, that's a matter of opinion if your being funny. Just because you don't mean to be, doesn't mean you aren't to some people... perspective is a bitch.

And also... I'm really sick of these threads... I believe this point was made, how did all the fish survive? If a flood happened then all the water would be turned to salt water, fresh water fish would die, unless of course, they were on said Ark... so there had to be some fish on that Ark. Also, the problems of only having a male and a female of a species on the boat, not only the inbreeding and genetic problems that would have happened due to the extreme incest, how did Noah keep all the animals from killing one another? Not all animals get along... some hunt other's, and keeping them contained for so long without these troubles is extremely difficult. And plus, food, not all animals hibernate, and saying they were just given the ability to is insane, and cheating, you need a better explanation other then "god did it". And those aren't even all the holes in this, this statement has so many holes it'd sink in a real debate.... (I don't much consider NS 'real debating', no offence xP). Sorry, I just don't see it being possible... :/


Why is "God did it" NOT a reasonable answer?


Would you be happy to substitute another deity or supernatural being then? I mean if "God did it" is a reasonable answer, and proof is not required, why aren't you a Muslim or Hindu or...
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Postby Norstal » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:15 pm

Avenio wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:I believe it could have happened. God can do anything.


Can God create a rock so heavy that he can't lift it?

Can go make an argument so circular even he can't believe it?
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Postby Huskvarneque » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:15 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
Veladio wrote:How? Prove it.

Look around you. He made it all. Sometimes you don't need proof, you just believe.


.... *head desk* I like proof, it makes me right instead of just hopeful...

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Postby The Orson Empire » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:15 pm

Avenio wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:I believe it could have happened. God can do anything.


Can God create a rock so heavy that he can't lift it?

No. He can do anything. That is not the point I am trying to prove.

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Postby Arlim » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:15 pm

LogiChristianity wrote:
Veladio wrote:Prove it.


I already did. The Bible says so, and the Bible is remarkably scientifically advanced, supported by extrabiblical texts, and amazingly consistent across the whole thing.

Poor brainwashed fundie. You really don't know about the contradictions in tne bible, do you? :(
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Postby Big Jim P » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:15 pm

Huskvarneque wrote:
Northwest Slobovia wrote:Gotta work an "equu" in there somewhere, because we don't just beat any old dead animal.

Sadonecroequubestiality xD


I like this one better.
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Postby Big Jim P » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:16 pm

Norstal wrote:
Avenio wrote:
Can God create a rock so heavy that he can't lift it?

Can go make an argument so circular even he can't believe it?


:rofl:
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Postby Mavorpen » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:16 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
Veladio wrote:How? Prove it.

Look around you. He made it all. Sometimes you don't need proof, you just believe.


So, God doesn't exist.
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Postby The Drone Empire » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:16 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
Veladio wrote:How? Prove it.

Look around you. He made it all. Sometimes you don't need proof, you just believe.



The last time I did that didn't end well.
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Postby Tmutarakhan » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:17 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
Veladio wrote:How? Prove it.

Look around you. He made it all. Sometimes you don't need proof, you just believe.

When I look around me, I see a world which works according to certain rules, which may be hard to figure out completely, but have some consistency to them, and then I compare the way the world works with the way the people who wrote this story think it works, and there is no similarity, and all I can say is that the Creator of this universe is not at all like the character depicted in that old book.
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Postby Northwest Slobovia » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:17 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:I believe it could have happened. God can do anything.

Can God convince me of His/Her/Its existance? I mean, that's a pretty feeble test compared to the creation of the universe ex nihilo, so surely the Big Guy/Gal/Tentacled Horror should be able to manage... and in less than six days. I'll start my stopwatch *now*.
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Postby The Orson Empire » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:17 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:Look around you. He made it all. Sometimes you don't need proof, you just believe.


So, God doesn't exist.

Yes he does. Thats now what I said.

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