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Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:00 pmby Mavorpen
Wamitoria wrote:Yammata wrote:America's laws prevent us from doing the right thing to WBC.
Sending them to North Korea?
Even North Korea doesn't deserve such a punishment.
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Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:00 pmby Dainer
Nadkor wrote:Occupied Deutschland wrote:If for no other reason than seeing the counter-protestors show up to drown the idiots out fills me with some sense of hope for the human race.
Yeah, I'm sure that's just what people want when they're burying their relatives - two groups of people who hate each other kicking off, regardless of how ridiculously in the wrong one of those sides is.
Of course, that assumes all those people are there because they hate the WBC, and not to show any support for the families and stuff.
That has to be the worst attempt at Golden Mean Fallacy I've ever seen.
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Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:01 pmby Yammata
Wamitoria wrote:Yammata wrote:America's laws prevent us from doing the right thing to WBC.
Sending them to North Korea?
Hmm That could work but i was thinking Antarctica with no coats and soaked in a quickly evaporating solvent.
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Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:02 pmby EnragedMaldivians
Nadkor wrote:Swith Witherward wrote:They target military funerals in order to get exposure. Their protests are horrid; children do not need to see a bunch of assholes holding signs telling them that their mommy or daddy died because God hates America, etc. It's pretty uncommon for them to target any other funeral unless the deceased can gain them some media attention.
They have admitted to, for example, picketing the funeral of a Muslim man's wife because he had admonished them for burning a Quran a week beforehand.
If that's true, that's probably the saddest and most enraging thing I've read all week. How utterly despicable.
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Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:02 pmby Wilgrove
You know, as much as I find the WBC and their brand of hate speech reprehensible, doesn't this legislation violate their 1st amendment rights?
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Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:02 pmby Mavorpen
Yammata wrote:Wamitoria wrote:Sending them to North Korea?
Hmm That could work but i was thinking Antarctica with no coats and soaked in a quickly evaporating solvent.
I can see it now...
"Come on Mumble! Let's go dance!"
WBC: "STOP! DANCING PENGUINS ARE A SIN! GLOBAL WARMING IS GOD'S WRATH ON YOU FOR DANCING!"
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Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:02 pmby Yammata
Galborg wrote:When wbc disrupts funerals, they violate Freedom of Worship: sue them for every dollar they got.
When wbc murders gays, hang them for incitement to felony.
If wbc preached, "when gays die, Gaad sends them to Hell" they got both Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Worship on their side. I can't see what crime we could charge them with?
Being horrible human beings who need to be doused and lit ablaze?
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Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:04 pmby Nadkor
Occupied Deutschland wrote:Nadkor wrote:Yeah, I'm sure that's just what people want when they're burying their relatives - two groups of people who hate each other kicking off, regardless of how ridiculously in the wrong one of those sides is.
Eh, don't know if people who showed up to 'counter-protest' the WBC would necessarily be doing it because they hate the WBC. It might be part of it, but I assume the predominant feeling is one of protecting the family that is doing the burying from having to deal with the WBC BS. *shrug*
Well, they're hardly about to sit down and have afternoon tea with them.
But I think you know what my actual point was, semantics aside; most people would probably rather be able to bury their relatives in peace and privacy rather than having protests and counter-protests going on around them.
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Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:04 pmby Rupudska
Wamitoria wrote:Yammata wrote:America's laws prevent us from doing the right thing to WBC.
Sending them to North Korea?
Forcing the property the WBC building is on (And that of Fred Phelps' house) and declaring war on both pieces of land.
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Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:04 pmby TomKirk
Hydesland wrote:Nadkor wrote:I fail to see why military funerals should be protected ahead of the funerals of the countless other people that Westboro Baptist feels the need to picket.
Countless? I think the overwhelming majority is military funerals, the rest are the odd celebrity like Michael Jackson.
They used to only picket gay funerals, until they found that military funerals got more of the attention they live for.
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Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:04 pmby Yammata
Mavorpen wrote:Yammata wrote:Hmm That could work but i was thinking Antarctica with no coats and soaked in a quickly evaporating solvent.
I can see it now...
"Come on Mumble! Let's go dance!"
WBC: "STOP! DANCING PENGUINS ARE A SIN! GLOBAL WARMING IS GOD'S WRATH ON YOU FOR DANCING!"
Hard to protest when your an ice sculpture.
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Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:05 pmby Mavorpen
Yammata wrote:Mavorpen wrote:I can see it now...
"Come on Mumble! Let's go dance!"
WBC: "STOP! DANCING PENGUINS ARE A SIN! GLOBAL WARMING IS GOD'S WRATH ON YOU FOR DANCING!"
Hard to protest when your an ice sculpture.
Their foaming at the mouth hatred of everything fun will keep them warm.
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Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:06 pmby ALMF
Occupied Deutschland wrote:I can't say I'm in favor of this and I frankly think it's unconstitutional (hell, for once when I say that I even have some court backing on it since they (the Supreme Court) said this was a constitutional exercise of free speech as well).
The WBC is pathetic, disgusting, attention-hogging bigots with no grounding in anything being able to be graciously considered a rational thought, but I think they should have the right to express their disturbed opinion. If for no other reason than seeing the counter-protestors show up to drown the idiots out fills me with some sense of hope for the human race. THAT is how this should be handled, not by Congress passing a law saying citizens can't say things because of how offensive/inappropriate/ill-timed/whatever that speech is.
Edit: Clarified who 'they' were
less hostel (as opposed to not hostel) to WBC but this
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Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:06 pmby Yammata
Rupudska wrote:Wamitoria wrote:Sending them to North Korea?
Forcing the property the WBC building is on (And that of Fred Phelps' house) and declaring war on both pieces of land.
Mark their land as being a foreign nation and then invade it.
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Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:06 pmby Olthar
I may hate Westboro, but any bill that limits freedom is just wrong.
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Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:09 pmby Yammata
Olthar wrote:I may hate Westboro, but any bill that limits freedom is just wrong.
Only If they are American citizens
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Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:10 pmby Cameroi
there is absolutely no reason any action that has been taken against any of the occupy movements wouldn't be measurably more valid and appropriate against the evil in the name of good that is the westburo so called church.
why should ANYONE be allowed to picket a funeral? if they want to stage marches, fine. that is their free speach right like anyone else. kkk, nazi's anyone. but they ARE a hate group, and little if anything, short of a REAL terrorist organization. if they haven't yet been caught in a terrorist act, it is only a matter of time, with their attitudes, before one or several of their members engages in one.
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Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:12 pmby Risottia
Genivaria wrote:[spoiler]
Congress Passes Restrictions On Military Funeral Protests, Delivers Blow To Westboro Baptist Church
Westboro Baptist Church protesters will soon be severely limited in their ability to disrupt military funerals, after Congress passed a sweeping veterans bill this week that includes restrictions on such demonstrations.
According to "The Honoring America’s Veterans and Caring for Camp Lejeune Families Act of 2012," which is now headed to President Barack Obama's desk, demonstrators will no longer be allowed to picket military funerals two hours before or after a service. The bill also requires protestors to be at least 300 feet away from grieving family members.
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What do ya'll think of this NS?
I think it's wrong that such a measure is enforced about soldiers' funerals only. It should be about ANYONE's funeral.
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Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:13 pmby Risottia
Olthar wrote:I may hate Westboro, but any bill that limits freedom is just wrong.
Any bill?
Such as the bill limiting the freedom of someone who has committed a crime - as in throwing him in jail? That's limiting freedom, too.
I think you would like to rephrase your statement.
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Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:14 pmby Olthar
Risottia wrote:Olthar wrote:I may hate Westboro, but any bill that limits freedom is just wrong.
Any bill?
Such as the bill limiting the freedom of someone who has committed a crime - as in throwing him in jail? That's limiting freedom, too.
I think you would like to rephrase your statement.
I think you need to stop being pedantic.
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Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:17 pmby Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f
Olthar wrote:Risottia wrote:Any bill?
Such as the bill limiting the freedom of someone who has committed a crime - as in throwing him in jail? That's limiting freedom, too.
I think you would like to rephrase your statement.
I think you need to stop being pedantic.
he's not being pedantic. far from it. he's engaging the grey matter between his ears and using it to discern logical flaws in peoples knee jerk reactions.
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Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:18 pmby Cameroi
Olthar wrote:Risottia wrote:Any bill?
Such as the bill limiting the freedom of someone who has committed a crime - as in throwing him in jail? That's limiting freedom, too.
I think you would like to rephrase your statement.
I think you need to stop being pedantic.
i don't
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Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:21 pmby Blakk Metal
Wamitoria wrote:Are they allowed to do that?
No.
Genivaria wrote:Wamitoria wrote:Are they allowed to do that?
The government? Apparently so.
No they aren't.
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Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:22 pmby Occupied Deutschland
Risottia wrote:Olthar wrote:I may hate Westboro, but any bill that limits freedom is just wrong.
Any bill?
Such as the bill limiting the freedom of someone who has committed a crime - as in throwing him in jail? That's limiting freedom, too.
I think you would like to rephrase your statement.
I hardly think comparing the arbitrary limits placed on emotional damage that occurs from listening to someone's (bigoted) opinion to the jury-determined verdict placed on someone who just stabbed a dude is fair.
Pretty easy to determine what he meant.
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Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:22 pmby United Kingdom of Poland
I support it, if they ever show up in batavia, New York, all the bikers there are going to bring their bikes up in front of them and gun the engines.