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by Wewak » Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:51 pm

by New England and The Maritimes » Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:51 pm
The Mongol Ilkhanate wrote:Revolutopia wrote:
Has more sources then just liking to a Fox News article, which rarely link to any outside sources.
Thus your complaint is a false equivalency.
Moreover, who do think is going to cover this issue other then movements connected to gay rights?
Gee, I dunno, Politco at least tries to be neutral, another good place to go is RCP or Pollster.
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Some people's opinions are based on rational observations, others base theirs on imaginative thinking. The reality-based community ought not to waste it's time refuting delusions.

by Mussoliniopoli » Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:53 pm

by The Mongol Ilkhanate » Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:53 pm
Revolutopia wrote:The Mongol Ilkhanate wrote:
Because you'd take FOX seriously if they cited Heritage Foundation, EXXON's latest reports, and the Weekly Standard? That's tantamount to what these people are doing, and you'd be horribly dishonest if you look at your monitor with a straight face and type "GLAAD/NCRM/GAY(good as you)/TWO (Truth wins out) aren't biased"
If they referencing something that can be checked by public record, yes.

by Gauthier » Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:54 pm

by Revolutopia » Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:57 pm
The Mongol Ilkhanate wrote:Revolutopia wrote:
If they referencing something that can be checked by public record, yes.
OK good, that's the first step. Now back up the assertion by giving me the public record of their donation, rather than them saying its there.
Because, Open Secrets, which is balanced, reports none of those things on a search for Chick-Fil-A.

by The Mongol Ilkhanate » Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:59 pm
Revolutopia wrote:The Mongol Ilkhanate wrote:
OK good, that's the first step. Now back up the assertion by giving me the public record of their donation, rather than them saying its there.
Because, Open Secrets, which is balanced, reports none of those things on a search for Chick-Fil-A.
http://www.businessinsider.com/most-anti-gay-companies-in-america-2012-7
Open Secrets are focused on politicians receiving contributions not all political contributions.

by The Republic of Lanos » Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:59 pm

by Revolutopia » Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:59 pm
The Mongol Ilkhanate wrote:Revolutopia wrote:
Has more sources then just liking to a Fox News article, which rarely link to any outside sources.
Thus your complaint is a false equivalency.
Moreover, who do think is going to cover this issue other then movements connected to gay rights?
Gee, I dunno, Politco at least tries to be neutral, another good place to go is RCP or Pollster.

by Patriot Liberal » Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:00 pm
The Mongol Ilkhanate wrote:Revolutopia wrote:
If they referencing something that can be checked by public record, yes.
OK good, that's the first step. Now back up the assertion by giving me the public record of their donation, rather than them saying its there.
Because, Open Secrets, which is balanced, reports none of those things on a search for Chick-Fil-A.

by Frisivisia » Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:01 pm
The Republic of Lanos wrote:So some mayors want to ban a business because the business leaders donate to certain causes and holding certain viewpoints? Obviously, this gives us the right to ban businesses that support viewpoints we don't like. Maybe we should ban GE from being here for supporting Obama. It's all acceptable if you're going to ban Chick-fil-A for it's opinions.
See what I did there? Exactly. The 1st Amendment applies to everyone, not to certain groups you like.

by The Republic of Lanos » Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:02 pm
Frisivisia wrote:The Republic of Lanos wrote:So some mayors want to ban a business because the business leaders donate to certain causes and holding certain viewpoints? Obviously, this gives us the right to ban businesses that support viewpoints we don't like. Maybe we should ban GE from being here for supporting Obama. It's all acceptable if you're going to ban Chick-fil-A for it's opinions.
See what I did there? Exactly. The 1st Amendment applies to everyone, not to certain groups you like.
Did you read the article? Some mayors denounced Chic-Fil-A, and said it wouldn't be welcome in their cities. They didn't ban it.

by New England and The Maritimes » Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:03 pm
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Some people's opinions are based on rational observations, others base theirs on imaginative thinking. The reality-based community ought not to waste it's time refuting delusions.

by Frisivisia » Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:03 pm

by Revolutopia » Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:04 pm
The Mongol Ilkhanate wrote:Revolutopia wrote:
http://www.businessinsider.com/most-anti-gay-companies-in-america-2012-7
Open Secrets are focused on politicians receiving contributions not all political contributions.
The question is not IF they've been donating, but WHO they have been donating to. Donating to NOM is acceptable. Donating to "expel all gays from the country" is not.

by Wirbel » Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:05 pm
Mikoyan-Guryevich wrote:Don't RP that your naval strike force has just launched 1000 fighter jets, this is just pure shit.

by New England and The Maritimes » Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:06 pm
Wirbel wrote:Frisivisia wrote:Bob loves his filing cabinet, and if he wants to marry it, so be it. It's his deal, aren't you conservatives about personal freedom?
Don't call it marriage. You can call it something else. Marriage = Man + Woman
If homosexuals wish to live together... well... get the latin dictionaries! We need to come up with a new word. Also, if pro-gay people are mad at Chick-Fil-A, they should just not eat there. We don't need to propose government bans or anything...

Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Some people's opinions are based on rational observations, others base theirs on imaginative thinking. The reality-based community ought not to waste it's time refuting delusions.

by Frisivisia » Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:06 pm
Wirbel wrote:Frisivisia wrote:Bob loves his filing cabinet, and if he wants to marry it, so be it. It's his deal, aren't you conservatives about personal freedom?
Don't call it marriage. You can call it something else. Marriage = Man + Woman
If homosexuals wish to live together... well... get the latin dictionaries! We need to come up with a new word. Also, if pro-gay people are mad at Chick-Fil-A, they should just not eat there. We don't need to propose government bans or anything...

by Revolutopia » Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:06 pm
Wirbel wrote:Frisivisia wrote:Bob loves his filing cabinet, and if he wants to marry it, so be it. It's his deal, aren't you conservatives about personal freedom?
Don't call it marriage. You can call it something else. Marriage = Man + Woman
If homosexuals wish to live together... well... get the latin dictionaries! We need to come up with a new word. Also, if pro-gay people are mad at Chick-Fil-A, they should just not eat there. We don't need to propose government bans or anything...

by Condunum » Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:07 pm
Wirbel wrote:Frisivisia wrote:Bob loves his filing cabinet, and if he wants to marry it, so be it. It's his deal, aren't you conservatives about personal freedom?
Don't call it marriage. You can call it something else. Marriage = Man + Woman
If homosexuals wish to live together... well... get the latin dictionaries! We need to come up with a new word. Also, if pro-gay people are mad at Chick-Fil-A, they should just not eat there. We don't need to propose government bans or anything...

by The Jahistic Unified Republic » Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:07 pm
The Emerald Dawn wrote:"Considering Officer Krupke was patently idiotic to charge these young men in the first place, we're dropping the charges in the interest of not wasting any more of the Judiciary's time with farcical charges brought by officers who require more training on basic legal principles."

by Dempublicents1 » Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:07 pm
The Mongol Ilkhanate wrote:Revolutopia wrote:
If they referencing something that can be checked by public record, yes.
OK good, that's the first step. Now back up the assertion by giving me the public record of their donation, rather than them saying its there.
Because, Open Secrets, which is balanced, reports none of those things on a search for Chick-Fil-A.

by Frisivisia » Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:09 pm
The Jahistic Unified Republic wrote:I wonder how many "bigots" at Chick-fil-a today would say that Ben and Jerry's is a good ice cream brand. Truth is, they probably are supporting the first amendment rather than the "Traditional Marriage" side.

by The Jahistic Unified Republic » Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:09 pm

The Emerald Dawn wrote:"Considering Officer Krupke was patently idiotic to charge these young men in the first place, we're dropping the charges in the interest of not wasting any more of the Judiciary's time with farcical charges brought by officers who require more training on basic legal principles."

by Revolutopia » Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:09 pm
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