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The Realm of God
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Postby The Realm of God » Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:59 pm

The Mongol Ilkhanate wrote:
The Realm of God wrote:
Admit it you just want to pass laws making Christian Fundiementalism law. I have lost all respect I had for you. (although that implys I had some in the first place)


Assuming an ulterior motive and then attacking it rather than the argument is textbook strawman.


All of your arguements are based on illogical fallicies and one of the most malicious readings of the bible I have ever seen.
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The Mongol Ilkhanate
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Postby The Mongol Ilkhanate » Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:59 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
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It's a theoretical imperfection, much like married couples where one partner becomes mentally unsound, therefore unable to consent or seek a divorce. Would you swoop in and annul their marriage?


Legally (I use that term loosly as I am not qualified), I believe you have grounds for annulment if one side of the party knowing entered into marriage under such false pretenses.

Even in the case of on person being crazy, I believe the system will appoint a person for their interests.

Our lurking lawyers can probably answer that one.


Becomes unsound after the marriage, say, 10 years into the marriage.

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Postby Genivaria » Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:59 pm

The Mongol Ilkhanate wrote:
Mussoliniopoli wrote:So why is infertile couples ok but Homosexual relations are not? Oh because you are a Christian Bigot. Just admit it and get over it.


DId you read anything that I just said? We ban things that are obviously unable to reproduce to make fertile offspring, like men and stereos, men and men, men and dogs, and men and horses. There is no way to be 100% infertile, even if there's one gamete still hanging around and the odds are ridiculously low that your seed will survive to an egg. Even if you had no lower body, you could still take your DNA, the mother's DNA and egg and make a baby. Can't do that with two males or two females.

The ability to procreate has nothing to do with why bestiality is outlawed.
Its a matter of CONSENT, what about that word don't you get?
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Mussoliniopoli
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Postby Mussoliniopoli » Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:59 pm

The Mongol Ilkhanate wrote:
Mussoliniopoli wrote:So why is infertile couples ok but Homosexual relations are not? Oh because you are a Christian Bigot. Just admit it and get over it.


DId you read anything that I just said? We ban things that are obviously unable to reproduce to make fertile offspring, like men and stereos, men and men, men and dogs, and men and horses. There is no way to be 100% infertile, even if there's one gamete still hanging around and the odds are ridiculously low that your seed will survive to an egg. Even if you had no lower body, you could still take your DNA, the mother's egg and make a baby. Can't do that with two males or two females.

Homosexuals don't have DNA? Source? God this is the dumbest shit I have ever seen posted even shit on youtube. Please go back to school for the love of tapdancing Jesus on a Cross.
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Postby Revolutopia » Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:00 pm

Genivaria wrote:
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Sure there is. He married the sound system. Now, he can bequeath stuff to it, leaving out his rotten kids. Anything he says to it cannot be used against him in court. Tax benefits from listing it as a dependent. TONS of benefits.

Its funny that your the only one here who thinks marrying a sound system makes sense.


I believe there is a strong coloration between individuals who make that argument and individuals who stick their dicks in a toaster.
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Postby Inky Noodles » Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:00 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Inky Noodles wrote:Hopefully I can make my point.
I know I suck at MC paint.

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/551249_450369921661330_1068445527_n.jpg

Your argument still makes no sense.

I have tried to make it as understandable as possible.
If you still don't understand... that's fine with me...
good day.

Wait....

fighting fire with fire...
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Veceria wrote:People with big noses have big penises.
Even the females.

Especially the females. *nod*


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Belligerent Alcoholics wrote:Are you OK? :eyebrow:

It's a person called Inky Noodles in a thread that is not exactly known for its sanity in general. Do the math, beerguzzler.


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The Mongol Ilkhanate
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Postby The Mongol Ilkhanate » Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:00 pm

Genivaria wrote:
The Mongol Ilkhanate wrote:
DId you read anything that I just said? We ban things that are obviously unable to reproduce to make fertile offspring, like men and stereos, men and men, men and dogs, and men and horses. There is no way to be 100% infertile, even if there's one gamete still hanging around and the odds are ridiculously low that your seed will survive to an egg. Even if you had no lower body, you could still take your DNA, the mother's DNA and egg and make a baby. Can't do that with two males or two females.

The ability to procreate has nothing to do with why bestiality is outlawed.
Its a matter of CONSENT, what about that word don't you get?


So what if one partner becomes unable to consent, say, 10 years in? They can't get a divorce.

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Postby Astrolinium » Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:00 pm

The Mongol Ilkhanate wrote:Can't do that with two males or two females.


Not yet, but soon.
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Beiluxia
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Postby Beiluxia » Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:00 pm

The Mongol Ilkhanate wrote:
Mussoliniopoli wrote:So why is infertile couples ok but Homosexual relations are not? Oh because you are a Christian Bigot. Just admit it and get over it.


DId you read anything that I just said? We ban things that are obviously unable to reproduce to make fertile offspring, like men and stereos, men and men, men and dogs, and men and horses. There is no way to be 100% infertile, even if there's one gamete still hanging around and the odds are ridiculously low that your seed will survive to an egg. Even if you had no lower body, you could still take your DNA, the mother's egg and make a baby. Can't do that with two males or two females.

What about all those marriages that don't end up in having a baby? Marriage =/= having a baby, mind you. Should we annul all marriages where straight couples cannot have babies because of some defect?
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:00 pm

The Mongol Ilkhanate wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Legally (I use that term loosely as I am not qualified), I believe you have grounds for annulment if one side of the party knowing entered into marriage under such false pretenses.

Even in the case of on person being crazy, I believe the system will appoint a person for their interests.

Our lurking lawyers can probably answer that one.


Becomes unsound after the marriage, say, 10 years into the marriage.


Not a question I can answer.
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Postby The Mongol Ilkhanate » Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:01 pm

Astrolinium wrote:
The Mongol Ilkhanate wrote:Can't do that with two males or two females.


Not yet, but soon.


Get me a neutral source.

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Postby Revolutopia » Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:01 pm

The Mongol Ilkhanate wrote:
Mussoliniopoli wrote:So why is infertile couples ok but Homosexual relations are not? Oh because you are a Christian Bigot. Just admit it and get over it.


DId you read anything that I just said? We ban things that are obviously unable to reproduce to make fertile offspring, like men and stereos, men and men, men and dogs, and men and horses. There is no way to be 100% infertile, even if there's one gamete still hanging around and the odds are ridiculously low that your seed will survive to an egg. Even if you had no lower body, you could still take your DNA, the mother's egg and make a baby. Can't do that with two males or two females.


Women who are over 65 cannot have babies, thus lets ban their marriage.
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Postby Inky Noodles » Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:01 pm

The Mongol Ilkhanate wrote:


Get me a neutral source.

Whats a neutral source? :lol:
Transnapastain wrote:
Inky Noodles wrote:QUICK.

I WANNA ASK SOMEONE TO HOMECOMING.


whaddo I do?!


So I just met you
and this is crazy
but heres my number
homecoming maybe?

*not a valid offer.

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San Leggera wrote:
Veceria wrote:People with big noses have big penises.
Even the females.

Especially the females. *nod*


Hurdegaryp wrote:
Belligerent Alcoholics wrote:Are you OK? :eyebrow:

It's a person called Inky Noodles in a thread that is not exactly known for its sanity in general. Do the math, beerguzzler.


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Postby Blakk Metal » Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:02 pm

Katganistan wrote:
Blakk Metal wrote:
It still is.

Really?

Well, fuck, Yuengling and Busch, Jack Daniels, Stoli, all the folks who make their own mead and beer and wine are in trouble.
Liquor/package stores are operating in direct contravention of the law!
Churches are in possession of ILLEGAL communion wine and DISTRIBUTING IT!!!!


Yeah, that was a pretty silly remark you made.

:rofl: You looked so smug when you made a fool of yourself. :rofl:

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Postby The Mongol Ilkhanate » Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:02 pm

Beiluxia wrote:
The Mongol Ilkhanate wrote:
DId you read anything that I just said? We ban things that are obviously unable to reproduce to make fertile offspring, like men and stereos, men and men, men and dogs, and men and horses. There is no way to be 100% infertile, even if there's one gamete still hanging around and the odds are ridiculously low that your seed will survive to an egg. Even if you had no lower body, you could still take your DNA, the mother's egg and make a baby. Can't do that with two males or two females.

What about all those marriages that don't end up in having a baby? Marriage =/= having a baby, mind you. Should we annul all marriages where straight couples cannot have babies because of some defect?


Already addressed. There is no way for a man and a women to be completely infertile, even if you have to implant the man's DNA into her egg through some other means.

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Postby Beiluxia » Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:02 pm

The Mongol Ilkhanate wrote:
Genivaria wrote:The ability to procreate has nothing to do with why bestiality is outlawed.
Its a matter of CONSENT, what about that word don't you get?


So what if one partner becomes unable to consent, say, 10 years in? They can't get a divorce.

Judge each based on their own merit. If the marriage went great and they all loved each other for 10 years, why would mental retardation change the marriage?
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Postby Frisivisia » Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:02 pm

The Mongol Ilkhanate wrote:
Mussoliniopoli wrote:So why is infertile couples ok but Homosexual relations are not? Oh because you are a Christian Bigot. Just admit it and get over it.


DId you read anything that I just said? We ban things that are obviously unable to reproduce to make fertile offspring, like men and stereos, men and men, men and dogs, and men and horses. There is no way to be 100% infertile, even if there's one gamete still hanging around and the odds are ridiculously low that your seed will survive to an egg. Even if you had no lower body, you could still take your DNA, the mother's egg and make a baby. Can't do that with two males or two females.

Should we ban marriages of infertile people? Should we ban marriages that don't want children? They're not reproducing.
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Postby Mussoliniopoli » Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:02 pm

Revolutopia wrote:
The Mongol Ilkhanate wrote:
DId you read anything that I just said? We ban things that are obviously unable to reproduce to make fertile offspring, like men and stereos, men and men, men and dogs, and men and horses. There is no way to be 100% infertile, even if there's one gamete still hanging around and the odds are ridiculously low that your seed will survive to an egg. Even if you had no lower body, you could still take your DNA, the mother's egg and make a baby. Can't do that with two males or two females.


Women who are over 65 cannot have babies, thus lets ban their marriage.

And stone them for being adulterers and make them marry a stereo. Herp a derp.
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Postby The Realm of God » Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:03 pm

The Mongol Ilkhanate wrote:


Get me a neutral source.


Give me a source for a reason why gay marriage is wrong. Which does not contain the following words "Fundiementlist," "Baptist," "Bible," and "Christian,"

Go on then.
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Postby Frisivisia » Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:03 pm

The Mongol Ilkhanate wrote:
Beiluxia wrote:What about all those marriages that don't end up in having a baby? Marriage =/= having a baby, mind you. Should we annul all marriages where straight couples cannot have babies because of some defect?


Already addressed. There is no way for a man and a women to be completely infertile, even if you have to implant the man's DNA into her egg through some other means.

So you support polygamy? That's a slippery slope. :p
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Postby Inky Noodles » Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:04 pm

Mussoliniopoli wrote:
Revolutopia wrote:
Women who are over 65 cannot have babies, thus lets ban their marriage.

And stone them for being adulterers and make them marry a stereo. Herp a derp.

Makes me wanna watch year one again.
Transnapastain wrote:
Inky Noodles wrote:QUICK.

I WANNA ASK SOMEONE TO HOMECOMING.


whaddo I do?!


So I just met you
and this is crazy
but heres my number
homecoming maybe?

*not a valid offer.

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San Leggera wrote:
Veceria wrote:People with big noses have big penises.
Even the females.

Especially the females. *nod*


Hurdegaryp wrote:
Belligerent Alcoholics wrote:Are you OK? :eyebrow:

It's a person called Inky Noodles in a thread that is not exactly known for its sanity in general. Do the math, beerguzzler.


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The Mongol Ilkhanate
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Postby The Mongol Ilkhanate » Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:04 pm

Revolutopia wrote:
The Mongol Ilkhanate wrote:
DId you read anything that I just said? We ban things that are obviously unable to reproduce to make fertile offspring, like men and stereos, men and men, men and dogs, and men and horses. There is no way to be 100% infertile, even if there's one gamete still hanging around and the odds are ridiculously low that your seed will survive to an egg. Even if you had no lower body, you could still take your DNA, the mother's egg and make a baby. Can't do that with two males or two females.


Women who are over 65 cannot have babies, thus lets ban their marriage.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pregnancy_over_age_50

Most of those women disagree. Namely Mrs. Steve Pace.

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Postby Frisivisia » Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:04 pm

The Realm of God wrote:
The Mongol Ilkhanate wrote:
Get me a neutral source.


Give me a source for a reason why gay marriage is wrong. Which does not contain the following words "Fundiementlist," "Baptist," "Bible," and "Christian,"

Go on then.

How is the Fundamentalist Baptist Christian Bible Institute for Family Matters?
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Postby Mussoliniopoli » Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:04 pm

Inky Noodles wrote:
Mussoliniopoli wrote:And stone them for being adulterers and make them marry a stereo. Herp a derp.

Makes me wanna watch year one again.

Or Life of Brian.
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Postby The Mongol Ilkhanate » Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:04 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
The Mongol Ilkhanate wrote:
Already addressed. There is no way for a man and a women to be completely infertile, even if you have to implant the man's DNA into her egg through some other means.

So you support polygamy? That's a slippery slope. :p


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typographical_error

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