Incest: Elephant or Open Door?

[Mavorpen]

Makes sense, bro.

Even though we're really off topic, incest is gross and I have conflicting views on legalizing it. On one hand, why shouldn't siblings be allowed to get it on? On the other hand, inbreeding causes problems. Big problems.

I really don't see how it's gross. If you don't personally like it, that's fine. But gross? Eh.

[Dracoria]

I disagree with incest entirely on the basis that the sort of love between relatives is meant to be different.

This sounds very similar to the bigoted agenda of the republicans against gay marriage.
"Traditional marriage is a man and a woman and same-sex relations are not supposed to have that sort of love".

Ahem. Bigoted Republican here.

[Moving Forward Inc]

This sounds very similar to the bigoted agenda of the republicans against gay marriage.
"Traditional marriage is a man and a woman and same-sex relations are not supposed to have that sort of love".

Ahem. Bigoted Republican here.

[Mavorpen]

This sounds very similar to the bigoted agenda of the republicans against gay marriage.
"Traditional marriage is a man and a woman and same-sex relations are not supposed to have that sort of love".

Ahem. Bigoted Republican here.

Admitting you have a problem is the first step to recovery. *nods*

[Olthar]

Makes sense, bro.

Ultimate bro-fist! No, literally. Sounds fun to me.

*fist bump*

[Winland]

>Flirts with sister.
>Sister rejects because incest.
>Become tentacle monster.
>Fuck like no tomorrow.
>????
>Profit?

Excellent! We've got half the script together already! Just need some dialogue and a roomful of chained, malnourished Korean animators!

Bonus points if the animators are all siblings.

This is the greatest thread I've ever seen.

[Cill Charthaigh]

Even though we're really off topic, incest is gross and I have conflicting views on legalizing it. On one hand, why shouldn't siblings be allowed to get it on? On the other hand, inbreeding causes problems. Big problems.

I really don't see how it's gross. If you don't personally like it, that's fine. But gross? Eh.

Better word/phrase: Just ain't right. Gay love is one thing, but incest is kind of crossing the line though :S

[Mavorpen]

I really don't see how it's gross. If you don't personally like it, that's fine. But gross? Eh.

Better word/phrase: Just ain't right. Gay love is one thing, but incest is kind of crossing the line though :S

How isn't it right?

[Forsher]

I disagree with incest entirely on the basis that the sort of love between relatives is meant to be different.

Huh? Can you prove such a thing?

Maybe with a survey. It's a rather traditional view.

I disagree with incest entirely on the basis that the sort of love between relatives is meant to be different.

This sounds very similar to the bigoted agenda of the republicans against gay marriage.
"Traditional marriage is a man and a woman and same-sex relations are not supposed to have that sort of love".

What we see here is a failure to distinguish between a situation that is comparing romantic love to romantic love (gay relationships versus not-gay ones) and romantic to platonic love (that between relatives).

[Dracoria]

I am too bigoted. I get told it frequently on this board!

But eh, as you can probably tell from some above, I don't have a specific problem with incest just like I don't have a specific problem with homosexuality. I don't like to look at it, I don't like to think about it happening in the next room, but in YOUR house, whatevah. Then again, I feel the same way about polygamy.

And they're all terrific targets for humor.

[Olthar]

Excellent! We've got half the script together already! Just need some dialogue and a roomful of chained, malnourished Korean animators!

Bonus points if the animators are all siblings.

This is the greatest thread I've ever seen.

I've seen better, but it is up there. Probably top 30? Maybe top 40?

[Mavorpen]

Maybe with a survey. It's a rather traditional view.

Now explain how views=reality.

[Moving Forward Inc]

This sounds very similar to the bigoted agenda of the republicans against gay marriage.
"Traditional marriage is a man and a woman and same-sex relations are not supposed to have that sort of love".

What we see here is a failure to distinguish between a situation that is comparing romantic love to romantic love (gay relationships versus not-gay ones) and romantic to platonic love (that between relatives).

Combine romantic and platonic love and this point you are trying to make fails.

[Cill Charthaigh]

Better word/phrase: Just ain't right. Gay love is one thing, but incest is kind of crossing the line though :S

How isn't it right?

Inbreeding. It might also be because I have little sisters and, just, agh.

[Oceanic people]

Seriously, ARE YOU NUTS?

[Dracoria]

How isn't it right?

Inbreeding. It might also be because I have little sisters and, just, agh.

Just because something's legal doesn't mean you have to do it.

[AiliailiA]

Huh? Can you prove such a thing?

Maybe with a survey. It's a rather traditional view.

This sounds very similar to the bigoted agenda of the republicans against gay marriage.
"Traditional marriage is a man and a woman and same-sex relations are not supposed to have that sort of love".

What we see here is a failure to distinguish between a situation that is comparing romantic love to romantic love (gay relationships versus not-gay ones) and romantic to platonic love (that between relatives).

There would be no families without some "romantic love" taking place.

It's ironic that "romantic love" can be right at the heart of a traditional family (mother and father together for the raising of children) and yet "platonic love" be held as the ideal for everyone else in the family. Except I suppose grandparents with each other. It reeks of inconsistency.

[Grand Britannia]

How isn't it right?

Inbreeding. It might also be because I have little sisters and, just, agh.

[Transhuman Proteus]

Makes sense, bro.

Even though we're really off topic, incest is gross and I have conflicting views on legalizing it. On one hand, why shouldn't siblings be allowed to get it on? On the other hand, inbreeding causes problems. Big problems.

Though not as big a problem as many think, and there is nothing legal in place to prevent people with an inheritable condition from have children (if children is the primary concern). People with such conditions often refrain from having children because of that, it seems plausible an incestuous couple might do the same.

[Magmia]

:blink: NO! Why waste medical resources so reletives can have sex!?!?!?!?!?

That's just......God, why do I check NSG before Igo to bed?!!?!?!

What medical resources would need to be wasted?

This is th OP:

Incest is defined by Wikipedia as "sexual intercourse between family members and close relatives. The term may apply to sexual activities between: individuals of close "blood relationship"; members of the same household; step relatives related by adoption or marriage; and members of the same clan or lineage."

In my opinion, I honestly believe on the Bible, that society should tolerate incest. While in the past, incest may have... led to consequences of genetic disorders, with advances in technology, the elephant in the room that is incest, should have the light cast on it and the doors open for it, for with genetic screening and subsequent advances, there is no need whatsoever to avoid incest. The problem is, that it is one of the most common, if not MOST common taboo, because... Who wants to bang with your sister (or brother)? But, if we skim past that obvious reason which I presume many people will use to defend the illegality of incest, it comes back to...

Genetic disorders. Via inbreeding, a product of incest, they are most likely to bear a child with genetic problems that could damage them later on in life. And if you think "oh, its false," meet a Spanish monarch: King Charles II. If why he is so infamous, it is due to the problems he had, which can be traced back to inbreeding. As the family tree of the ancestors of King Charles II of Spain shows,, it could contribute to the MAIN reason why incest is taboo. If, lets that situation repeated himself after King Juan Carlos of Spain dies, with genetic screening, there would be a little chance of Charles III. As a result, with technology, it reduces chance of genetic disorders due to inbreeding and incest.
Thus, I pose NSG a question: Should incest remain "an elephant in the room," or should society tolerate incest as a legitimate form of reproduction?

What he is saying is, use medical tech on babies concieved through an incestuous relationship. With all the disease in the world, and little money to spend, should genetic screening be wasted on something as silly as this (compared to themore important issues in the world right now)???????

It's a waste of money and medical resources

[Xathranaar]

I know that this is hardly worth mentioning, because I did not get it on page one and it will quickly get buried, but...

Some degree of incest is actually beneficial.

[AiliailiA]

How isn't it right?

Inbreeding. It might also be because I have little sisters and, just, agh.

Well if they're still too young, that's a very healthy aversion.

[NMaa949]

Well if they're still too young, that's a very healthy aversion.

hurrr

[AiliailiA]

What medical resources would need to be wasted?

This is th OP:

Incest is defined by Wikipedia as "sexual intercourse between family members and close relatives. The term may apply to sexual activities between: individuals of close "blood relationship"; members of the same household; step relatives related by adoption or marriage; and members of the same clan or lineage."

In my opinion, I honestly believe on the Bible, that society should tolerate incest. While in the past, incest may have... led to consequences of genetic disorders, with advances in technology, the elephant in the room that is incest, should have the light cast on it and the doors open for it, for with genetic screening and subsequent advances, there is no need whatsoever to avoid incest. The problem is, that it is one of the most common, if not MOST common taboo, because... Who wants to bang with your sister (or brother)? But, if we skim past that obvious reason which I presume many people will use to defend the illegality of incest, it comes back to...

Genetic disorders. Via inbreeding, a product of incest, they are most likely to bear a child with genetic problems that could damage them later on in life. And if you think "oh, its false," meet a Spanish monarch: King Charles II. If why he is so infamous, it is due to the problems he had, which can be traced back to inbreeding. As the family tree of the ancestors of King Charles II of Spain shows,, it could contribute to the MAIN reason why incest is taboo. If, lets that situation repeated himself after King Juan Carlos of Spain dies, with genetic screening, there would be a little chance of Charles III. As a result, with technology, it reduces chance of genetic disorders due to inbreeding and incest.
Thus, I pose NSG a question: Should incest remain "an elephant in the room," or should society tolerate incest as a legitimate form of reproduction?

What he is saying is, use medical tech on babies concieved through an incestuous relationship. With all the disease in the world, and little money to spend, should genetic screening be wasted on something as silly as this (compared to themore important issues in the world right now)???????

It's a waste of money and medical resources

You could say the same for IVF couldn't you? Very few people need it, but those who do want it very much.

[Dracoria]

There would be no families without some "romantic love" taking place.

It's ironic that "romantic love" can be right at the heart of a traditional family (mother and father together for the raising of children) and yet "platonic love" be held as the ideal for everyone else in the family. Except I suppose grandparents with each other. It reeks of inconsistency.

Seriously. We need more Ptolemic Love. Ever seen the Ptolemic Dynasty Family Tree?