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Should Incest Be Legalized?

Yes
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No
31
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Only for non-reproductive acts
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Postby Moving Forward Inc » Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:54 pm

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Moving Forward Inc wrote:Get back up Santorum's ass you...


Santorum was a leftist, Communist, pinko. We need a true Conservative!

Person (Gingrich) claims to be a truer conservative than Mitt Romney because he is more to the right, than Santorum does the same and claims to be a truer conservative than Gingrich, and now you claim to be a truer conservative than him.

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Postby NMaa949 » Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:54 pm

Raeyh wrote:I'm an authoritarian and that's basically the same thing.

Not really
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Postby The Crimson Realm » Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:55 pm

By God I think I'm an Authoritarian... Well, I'll be making my reservations to move to Russia then I guess. Goodbye America Q-Q
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Postby Genivaria » Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:55 pm

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Olthar wrote:There is nothing wrong with either, as long as they are consensual.

Though, snuff films don't exist.


All of my wut... You guys... I've been to every corner of the interwebz from Nazi-controlled Supremacy1914 to Pre-mainstream 4chan and I've never seen any group so off their rockers @-@

You've never met someone on the internet who isn't an Authoritarian Moral Guardian?
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Postby AiliailiA » Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:55 pm

Cill Charthaigh wrote:
Olthar wrote:Incest is wincest.

Nah, but seriously, I don't have a problem with it. As long as all parties involved are consenting, I see no reason why any form of sex should be illegal.


Even if it involves elephants?


No-one should molest an elephant. Not that's I'm too concerned about distressing the elephant, it's just the idea of the elephant taking the initiative which is ... worrying.
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Postby Winland » Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:55 pm

The Crimson Realm wrote:
Olthar wrote:There is nothing wrong with either, as long as they are consensual.

Though, snuff films don't exist.


All of my wut... You guys... I've been to every corner of the interwebz from Nazi-controlled Supremacy1914 to Pre-mainstream 4chan and I've never seen any group so off their rockers @-@

You, my friend, need to watch Kiss x Sis.
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Postby Cill Charthaigh » Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:55 pm

Olthar wrote:
Cill Charthaigh wrote:
Even if it involves elephants?

Sure. Why should it be illegal for an elephant to fuck a relative?


I'm talking about a brother and sister and an elephant. I'm sure elephants fuck their brothers and sisters all the time (I can't imagine them being the brightest bunch).
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Postby Raeyh » Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:56 pm

Winland wrote:
The Crimson Realm wrote:
All of my wut... You guys... I've been to every corner of the interwebz from Nazi-controlled Supremacy1914 to Pre-mainstream 4chan and I've never seen any group so off their rockers @-@

You, my friend, need to watch Kiss x Sis.


Koi Kaze was superior.

Both are also entirely fictional, so I don't know why you are bringing up animation.
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Postby Mavorpen » Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:56 pm

Cill Charthaigh wrote:
Olthar wrote:Sure. Why should it be illegal for an elephant to fuck a relative?


I'm talking about a brother and sister and an elephant. I'm sure elephants fuck their brothers and sisters all the time (I can't imagine them being the brightest bunch).


The fuck does this have to do with anything?
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Postby The Crimson Realm » Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:56 pm

Moving Forward Inc wrote:
The Crimson Realm wrote:
Santorum was a leftist, Communist, pinko. We need a true Conservative!

Person (Gingrich) claims to be a truer conservative than Mitt Romney because he is more to the right, than Santorum does the same and claims to be a truer conservative than Gingrich, and now you claim to be a truer conservative than him.

Out of all the republicans bigots, you are at the bottom.


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Postby Olthar » Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:56 pm

Ailiailia wrote:
Cill Charthaigh wrote:
Even if it involves elephants?


No-one should molest an elephant. Not that's I'm too concerned about distressing the elephant, it's just the idea of the elephant taking the initiative which is ... worrying.

Meh. I could take it. 8)
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Postby Genivaria » Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:57 pm

Raeyh wrote:
Winland wrote:You, my friend, need to watch Kiss x Sis.


Koi Kaze was superior.

It's also entirely fictional, so I don't know why you are bringing up animation.

Because anime women are hotter then real women.....
*beat*
...what?

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Postby Novairia » Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:57 pm

Incest that results in offspring is a form of close inbreeding (reproduction between two individuals with a common close ancestor). Inbreeding leads to a higher probability of congenital birth defects because it increases that proportion of zygotes that are homozygous, in particular for deleterious recessive alleles that produce such disorders.
Because most such alleles are rare in populations, it is unlikely that two unrelated marriage partners will both be heterozygous carriers.
However, because close relatives share a large fraction of their alleles, the probability that any such rare deleterious allele present in the common ancestor will be inherited from both related parents is increased dramatically with respect to non-inbred couples.
Contrary to common belief, inbreeding does not in itself alter allele frequencies, but rather increases the relative proportion of homozygotes to heterozygotes.
However, because the increased proportion of deleterious homozygotes exposes the allele to natural selection, in the long run its frequency decreases more rapidly in inbred population.
In the short term, incestuous reproduction is expected to produce increases in spontaneous abortions of zygotes, perinatal deaths, and postnatal offspring with birth defects along with other deleterious effects besides those caused by recessive diseases. Thus, similar coded immune systems will be more vulnerable to infectious diseases.

Many mammal species including humanity's closest primate relatives avoid close inbreeding, especially if there are alternative partners available. Male rats have been recorded engaging in mating with their sisters, but they tend to prefer non-related females over their sisters.

Livestock breeders often practice controlled breeding to eliminate inbreeding and undesirable characteristics within a population, which is also coupled with culling of what is considered unfit offspring, especially when trying to establish a new and desirable trait in the stock.

Incest is a somewhat popular topic in erotic fiction; there are entire collections and websites devoted solely to this genre, with an entire genre of pornographic fiction known as "incest novels". This is probably because, as with many other fetishes, the taboo nature of the act adds to the titillation. With the advent of the Internet, even more of this type of fiction is available.

Such countries where Incest is permissible and legal, includes the Netherlands and Sweden where incestuous couples must seek government counseling. The only type of incestuous relationship allowed by law in Sweden is that between half-siblings.

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Postby Luziyca » Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:57 pm

The Crimson Realm wrote:
Moving Forward Inc wrote:Person (Gingrich) claims to be a truer conservative than Mitt Romney because he is more to the right, than Santorum does the same and claims to be a truer conservative than Gingrich, and now you claim to be a truer conservative than him.

Out of all the republicans bigots, you are at the bottom.


Nah, Conservative is too far left. I need a new word... Not like the Fascists, they collaborated with Russia (those swine). Something grand, bold, wonderful... And Jingoistic!

Hippostanian?[/threadjack]

Guys, lets keep it on the topic. The topic is the ethics of incest.
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Postby Grand Britannia » Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:57 pm

The Crimson Realm wrote:By God I think I'm an Authoritarian... Well, I'll be making my reservations to move to Russia then I guess. Goodbye America Q-Q


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Postby Mavorpen » Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:57 pm

Olthar wrote:
Ailiailia wrote:
No-one should molest an elephant. Not that's I'm too concerned about distressing the elephant, it's just the idea of the elephant taking the initiative which is ... worrying.

Meh. I could take it. 8)


Olthar, you're going to need to go train with a horse first.

My body is ready...
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Postby Olthar » Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:57 pm

Cill Charthaigh wrote:
Olthar wrote:Sure. Why should it be illegal for an elephant to fuck a relative?


I'm talking about a brother and sister and an elephant. I'm sure elephants fuck their brothers and sisters all the time (I can't imagine them being the brightest bunch).

Well then, that would be one lucky elephant. :p
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Postby Xathranaar » Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:57 pm

Cill Charthaigh wrote:
Olthar wrote:Sure. Why should it be illegal for an elephant to fuck a relative?


I'm talking about a brother and sister and an elephant. I'm sure elephants fuck their brothers and sisters all the time (I can't imagine them being the brightest bunch).

... the person says about one of the most intelligent of all mammals.
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Postby Dracoria » Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:58 pm

Moving Forward Inc wrote:
The Crimson Realm wrote:
Santorum was a leftist, Communist, pinko. We need a true Conservative!

Person (Gingrich) claims to be a truer conservative than Mitt Romney because he is more to the right, than Santorum does the same and claims to be a truer conservative than Gingrich, and now you claim to be a truer conservative than him.

Out of all the republicans bigots, you are at the bottom.


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Postby The Crimson Realm » Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:58 pm

Luziyca wrote:
The Crimson Realm wrote:
Nah, Conservative is too far left. I need a new word... Not like the Fascists, they collaborated with Russia (those swine). Something grand, bold, wonderful... And Jingoistic!

Hippostanian?[/threadjack]

Guys, lets keep it on the topic. The topic is the ethics of incest.


Incest is wrong because I said so.

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Postby Genivaria » Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:58 pm

The Crimson Realm wrote:
Moving Forward Inc wrote:Person (Gingrich) claims to be a truer conservative than Mitt Romney because he is more to the right, than Santorum does the same and claims to be a truer conservative than Gingrich, and now you claim to be a truer conservative than him.

Out of all the republicans bigots, you are at the bottom.


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Postby The Cutest Bunnies » Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:58 pm

Olthar wrote:
Cill Charthaigh wrote:
Even if it involves elephants?

Sure. Why should it be illegal for an elephant to fuck a relative?

Because they could never forget?
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Postby Mavorpen » Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:58 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Raeyh wrote:
Koi Kaze was superior.

It's also entirely fictional, so I don't know why you are bringing up animation.

Because anime women are hotter then real women.....
*beat*
...what?


They are. They're hot, and they'll have sex with their brothers. Why can't I have a sister like that?
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Postby Magmia » Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:59 pm

:blink: NO! Why waste medical resources so reletives can have sex!?!?!?!?!?

That's just......God, why do I check NSG before Igo to bed?!!?!?! :palm:

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Postby The Crimson Realm » Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:59 pm

Hentai... Now THAT is a topic which I could not be a bigot in :3
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