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by Nightkill the Emperor » Sat Jul 28, 2012 7:22 pm
Nat: Night's always in some bizarre state somewhere between "intoxicated enough to kill a hair metal lead singer" and "annoying Mormon missionary sober".
Swith: It's because you're so awesome. God himself refreshes the screen before he types just to see if Nightkill has written anything while he was off somewhere else.
by Nightkill the Emperor » Sat Jul 28, 2012 7:26 pm
Nat: Night's always in some bizarre state somewhere between "intoxicated enough to kill a hair metal lead singer" and "annoying Mormon missionary sober".
Swith: It's because you're so awesome. God himself refreshes the screen before he types just to see if Nightkill has written anything while he was off somewhere else.
by Lithatrius » Sat Jul 28, 2012 7:34 pm
by Neu Leonstein » Sat Jul 28, 2012 7:42 pm
Harimaupore wrote:Currently, the person in charge of the most powerful wing of the European Union, the E.C. is Herman Van Rompuy. He does a good job (from what I can actually uncover) and is a perfectly acceptable person. He's theist, but seems genuinely open to the federal idea that the EU should follow; especially in the futurist sense.
WSJ wrote:In a phone call and text messages with two reporters for Dow Jones and the Wall Street Journal, Mr. Schuller repeatedly said no meeting would be held. He apparently said the same to other news outlets; at least one more moved his denials on financial newswires.
Of course, there was a meeting–although not, apparently, to talk about Greece quitting the currency, which would be an extreme step to say the least. Mr. Juncker even said a few words to reporters who had hustled to Luxembourg to stake out the gathering.
So why the lie?
“I was told to say there was no meeting,” said Mr. Schuller, reached by telephone Monday. “We had certain necessities to consider.”
Such as?
Evening in Europe is midday in the United States. “We had Wall Street open at that point in time,” Mr. Schuller said. The euro was falling on the Spiegel report, which had overhyped the meeting. “There was a very good reason to deny that the meeting was taking place.” It was, he said, “self-preservation.”
Asked whether such deliberate misinformation would undermine the market’s confidence in future euro-zone pronouncements, Mr. Schuller, lamenting that the market had practically no confidence in pronouncements already, said “not at all.”
[...]
On the tape, Mr. Juncker says he has “had to lie” and, speaking about touchy economic topics, “When it becomes serious, you have to lie.”
by Greed and Death » Sat Jul 28, 2012 7:48 pm
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by Everbeek » Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:31 am
Cromarty wrote:Antifa, the Internationale and the Red Fleet are encased in the largest glass house in existence, and they're not throwing stones, they're firing boulders from catapults.
by Neu Leonstein » Mon Jul 30, 2012 2:34 am
Everbeek wrote:No, that's because American rating bureaus keep downgrading countries that are doing as well or better than the US, and then pointing their fingers and saying "I told you so" when said countries start doing slightly worse because of said downgrade. (Not talking about Greece, obviously)
by Risottia » Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:26 am
Kamany wrote:In this thread I propose you to say who should be the best president for the European Union and why (it's harder...^^).
Yes, there's a current one, but consider him with the power of a prime minister or a chancelor
I think Daniel-Cohn-Bendit could be a good president for the EU....
by Risottia » Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:28 am
Neu Leonstein wrote:Everbeek wrote:No, that's because American rating bureaus keep downgrading countries that are doing as well or better than the US, and then pointing their fingers and saying "I told you so" when said countries start doing slightly worse because of said downgrade. (Not talking about Greece, obviously)
No, that's really not the issue. People don't care anymore what the ratings agencies say.
by Neu Leonstein » Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:10 am
Risottia wrote:To a point, actually, considering that a lot of investment funds have to invest in AAA countries only.
by New Kriegizstan » Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:13 am
Tubbsalot wrote:Oh dear, let's not have an EU President. I can only imagine how much whinier half of the British would get if they had a single person to blame everything on.
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by Risottia » Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:24 am
Neu Leonstein wrote:But anyway, making ratings agencies go away (if that were possible) would not reduce a debt-to-GDP ratio by a single basis point.
Nor would it cut a deficit, or create the economic growth needed to pay all those part-time government employees' pensions.
by Neu Leonstein » Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:28 am
Risottia wrote:A major help, at least here, would be slashing down both the number and the salary of both public and private sector executives. Italy has the same tendency of the Pàl Street Army... lots of lazy generals, almost no privates.
by Yewhohohopia » Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:29 am
by Risottia » Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:13 am
Neu Leonstein wrote:Risottia wrote:A major help, at least here, would be slashing down both the number and the salary of both public and private sector executives. Italy has the same tendency of the Pàl Street Army... lots of lazy generals, almost no privates.
Well, I'm not familiar with the details, but I do get the impression that Mr. Monti is actually making quite decent progress. He's stuck in a recession, sure, but he's doing a pretty good job all things considered. ...
by Angleter » Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:48 am
Everbeek wrote:greed and death wrote:4 Presidents no wonder you can't get your banks in order.
No, that's because American rating bureaus keep downgrading countries that are doing as well or better than the US, and then pointing their fingers and saying "I told you so" when said countries start doing slightly worse because of said downgrade. (Not talking about Greece, obviously)
by Socialist EU » Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:01 am
Tubbsalot wrote:Oh dear, let's not have an EU President. I can only imagine how much whinier half of the British would get if they had a single person to blame everything on.
by Socialist EU » Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:03 am
Risottia wrote:Neu Leonstein wrote:Well, I'm not familiar with the details, but I do get the impression that Mr. Monti is actually making quite decent progress. He's stuck in a recession, sure, but he's doing a pretty good job all things considered. ...
Yeah, Monti's not bad, but still most of his proposals have to pass through the same Parliament that kept Berlusconi afloat for 3 years and a half.
But given how's Monti is faring both here and with his EU colleagues, I think he COULD be a choice for some top-job at the EU in 2014 - like, dunno, the Commission or the Council.
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