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Postby Adventus Secundus » Sat Jul 28, 2012 1:02 pm

Sailsia wrote:I assume OP is a man. I assume OP has never had kids. I assume OP does not know what it's like to have children dependent on you when you're too poor to take care of them. I assume OP is white. I assume OP is a republican. I assume OP is a Christian.


I assume you are racist... ;)
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Postby Your Ex-Girlfriend » Sat Jul 28, 2012 1:03 pm

Lancaster of Wessex wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:Pun not intended? :rofl:


I was aware of said pun, but what the hell; the op is a joke, so why not make some along the way! :D


The Dick Basting Repubic is easily dismissed as lolbait, yes. But there is some talent there.

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Postby Lancaster of Wessex » Sat Jul 28, 2012 1:04 pm

Adventus Secundus wrote:
Sailsia wrote:I assume OP is a man. I assume OP has never had kids. I assume OP does not know what it's like to have children dependent on you when you're too poor to take care of them. I assume OP is white. I assume OP is a republican. I assume OP is a Christian.


I assume you are racist... ;)


Racist is the wrong word.

Stereotyping would be more apt.

My bet is on Sailsia, however.
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Postby Amitra » Sat Jul 28, 2012 1:06 pm

Norstal wrote:That is right comrade. Why should we have capitalist inventions like Planned Parenthood? We should abolish it immediately and remove it's imperializing powers upon our women. After all, women are made to produce children. Their children should also receive the most strict, disciplined education at the local Red Army. They should not receive any assistance whatsoever. Is for maximum happines, da?!

The 5-year plan would've been a 2-year plan if only these people worked harder.

Actually, planned parenthood is supported by the left and communism is on the far left, so communists would support planned parenthood, comrade. ;)
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Postby Adventus Secundus » Sat Jul 28, 2012 1:07 pm

No, putting 'white' in there moves it into a racial discussion, I'd say. Uncalled for.
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Postby Lancaster of Wessex » Sat Jul 28, 2012 1:09 pm

Adventus Secundus wrote:No, putting 'white' in there moves it into a racial discussion, I'd say. Uncalled for.


That I will give you - it really is unneeded. *nods and shrugs*
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Postby Woodstead » Sat Jul 28, 2012 1:10 pm

The Richard Bastion Republic wrote:*snip*

Spoken like a true 'Bastion's Buddy', I guess.
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Postby Freedom Ring » Sat Jul 28, 2012 1:12 pm

Contraceptives allow people to have more freedom to choose when to have sex and when to have children, banning them would be oppressive.

Planned parent hood also offer health services, not just planning people's parent hood.

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Postby Wamitoria » Sat Jul 28, 2012 1:13 pm

Adventus Secundus wrote:No, putting 'white' in there moves it into a racial discussion, I'd say. Uncalled for.

It's the internet.
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Postby Your Ex-Girlfriend » Sat Jul 28, 2012 1:14 pm

Freedom Ring wrote:parent hood.


Parenthood. All one word.

Parents are not necessarily hoods.
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Postby Garbolav » Sat Jul 28, 2012 1:15 pm

Freedom Ring wrote:Contraceptives allow people to have more freedom to choose when to have sex and when to have children, banning them would be oppressive.

Planned parent hood also offer health services, not just planning people's parent hood.


You are of course assuming contraceptives are good for human bodies (oral contraceptives are group one carcinogens on par with Asbestos and Solar Radiation).

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Postby Ceannairceach » Sat Jul 28, 2012 1:17 pm

Well, as I took the time to attempt to respond to this piece by piece, I realized that its simply mindless drivel.

To bad. Time wasted.

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Postby Woodstead » Sat Jul 28, 2012 1:18 pm

Adventus Secundus wrote:No, putting 'white' in there moves it into a racial discussion, I'd say. Uncalled for.

You must be new to the internet. :P
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Postby Adventus Secundus » Sat Jul 28, 2012 1:19 pm

Woodstead wrote:
Adventus Secundus wrote:No, putting 'white' in there moves it into a racial discussion, I'd say. Uncalled for.

You must be new to the internet. :P


No, just sick of double standards
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Postby Wamitoria » Sat Jul 28, 2012 1:21 pm

Adventus Secundus wrote:
Woodstead wrote:You must be new to the internet. :P


No, just sick of double standards

And new to the internet. 13-year old white kids statistically tend to be poorer trolls than other demographics.
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Postby The Richard Bastion Republic » Sat Jul 28, 2012 1:24 pm

You people on Nation States are different than most Americans, most Americans would agree with atleast half of my points.

Romney plans to cut funding on planned parenthood, and most Americans want to vote for him in the upcoming election, that means that most American want, or are okay with the funding being cut for planned parenthood.

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Postby Emile Zola » Sat Jul 28, 2012 1:25 pm

Garbolav wrote:
Freedom Ring wrote:Contraceptives allow people to have more freedom to choose when to have sex and when to have children, banning them would be oppressive.

Planned parent hood also offer health services, not just planning people's parent hood.


You are of course assuming contraceptives are good for human bodies (oral contraceptives are group one carcinogens on par with Asbestos and Solar Radiation).


I have never ever heard that and most of my family members work in health care or a women.

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Postby Tekania » Sat Jul 28, 2012 1:26 pm

The Richard Bastion Republic wrote:This article says that a 24 y.o woman died at a "planned parent" hood clinic after recieving an abortion. http://www.google.com/webhp?rlz=1C1AVSX ... =514&ion=1
http://www.lifesitenews.com/blog/americ ... -abortion/


Inpressive.... If that happens 516 more times it will almost equal the number of women who die after child birth this year..... So, you've proven to me abortion is at least significantly safer than giving birth.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Sat Jul 28, 2012 1:27 pm

The Richard Bastion Republic wrote:You people on Nation States are different than most Americans, most Americans would agree with atleast half of my points.

Romney plans to cut funding on planned parenthood, and most Americans want to vote for him in the upcoming election, that means that most American want, or are okay with the funding being cut for planned parenthood.

What most Americans want is not indicative of what is right, nor is what you said even true. I want sources, in triplicate, from respectable sites.

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Postby Yuktova » Sat Jul 28, 2012 1:28 pm

Umm...

op, you do know there is such a thing as carrying capacity, and all species have that, right?
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Postby Woodstead » Sat Jul 28, 2012 1:29 pm

The Richard Bastion Republic wrote:You people on Nation States are different than most Americans, most Americans would agree with atleast half of my points.

Well, that would be because I'm British. <--That is my excuse.
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Postby Tekania » Sat Jul 28, 2012 1:31 pm

Woodstead wrote:
The Richard Bastion Republic wrote:You people on Nation States are different than most Americans, most Americans would agree with atleast half of my points.

Well, that would be because I'm British. <--That is my excuse.


I'm not... But I do agree that I am significantly different than most Americans.... for example, I can read signs.
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Postby Pope Joan » Sat Jul 28, 2012 1:34 pm

Planned Parenthood provides many services, not just abortions.

This pie chart from Fact Check shows 35% of their funding goes to contraception and 3% to abortions. 35% goes to controlling STD's and 16% to cancer screening. "Other health services for women" take 10% and extraneous health services apparently not for women take 1%.

"But Planned Parenthood cannot use the money it receives from the federal government for abortions anyway. According to the Department of Health and Human Service’s website, "by law, Title X funds may not be used in programs where abortion is a method of family planning." Medicaid funding is restricted by the Hyde Amendment to only abortion cases involving rape, incest or endangerment to the life of the mother. "

http://www.factcheck.org/2011/04/planned-parenthood/
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Jul 28, 2012 1:35 pm

The Richard Bastion Republic wrote:You people on Nation States are different than most Americans...

Indeed, many of us aren't American at all! :O
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Sat Jul 28, 2012 1:35 pm

The Richard Bastion Republic wrote:You people on Nation States are different than most Americans, most Americans would agree with atleast half of my points.

Romney plans to cut funding on planned parenthood, and most Americans want to vote for him in the upcoming election, that means that most American want, or are okay with the funding being cut for planned parenthood.

Then why do most polls show Obama winning. Part of a democracy is protecting the rights of the minority; just because most of the population wants something doesn't mean it can happen because it may infringe the rights of the minority.
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