Death Metal wrote:The free market is more corrupt and more coercive.
And its still more efficient under many circumstances.
That efficiency is what makes a free market better.
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by AuSable River » Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:52 pm
Mosasauria wrote:AuSable River wrote:
so much for your private sector snake oil fallacy:
http://www.naturalnews.com/035641_corru ... harma.html
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/artic ... miflu.aspx
http://greenhouseneutralfoundation.org/ ... in-danger/
http://dangerousintersection.org/2009/0 ... t-the-fda/
http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/ama.htm
in sum, statist are under the delusion that government is trusted and serves them ---- nothing could be further from the truth.
indeed, my goal is to inform the servile that pray on the altar of government power -- that this is a false god.
individual rights and individual responsibility in a free, voluntary, and competitive societal framework is far more preferable and beneficial to societal health and well being.
good night, my shift is over.
One of my problems with this is that the very thing that corrupts the government is the very thing you trust more than the government.
by Wamitoria » Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:54 pm
AuSable River wrote:for example, how in the heck is an inefficient, corrupt, and wasteful firm going to survive screwing the customer or engaging in fraud or criminal/civil negligence?
by AuSable River » Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:54 pm
by Mavorpen » Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:55 pm
AuSable River wrote:strawman
I dont trust government at all dude.
without government, corrupt corporations die on the vine.
AuSable River wrote:for example, how in the heck is an inefficient, corrupt, and wasteful firm going to survive screwing the customer or engaging in fraud or criminal/civil negligence?
by AuSable River » Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:56 pm
Holy Trek wrote:Probably they are just following the indoctrination that they have received from leftwing educators, pop culture, and the main stream media who are all proponents of big government.
Ok..first, do you realize how idiotic that sounded? You make it sound as though us liberals actually want bigger government. Have you even interviewed any liberals to get their own personal views, or do you just lump all liberals into this category of wanting bigger government?If I could deprogram leftists, I would enlighten them to the fact that government is a market for corruption.
What are we now, robots?? 'Deprogram'.....sounds like a fascist tactic to me.Not surprisingly, these same banks contributed generously to both obama and bush in their respective elections. Moreover, the these same failed bankers have figured prominently in both the bush and obama cabinets.
Got anything to back this statement up, or are you just blowing hot air?In reality, the purpose of government isn't to promote sustainable and beneficial economic policy -- it is for self-serving politicians and their corrupt cronies in the public and private sector to 'game' the system to their benefit at the expense of productive individuals and firms in the private sector (who by definition don't need government help).
WOW!! What a damn genius you just proved to be.....I guess there must be readers here who have been living under rocks for so long they lost track of the times.
by Norstal » Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:57 pm
AuSable River wrote:
for example, how in the heck is an inefficient, corrupt, and wasteful firm going to survive screwing the customer or engaging in fraud or criminal/civil negligence?
Toronto Sun wrote:Best poster ever. ★★★★★
New York Times wrote:No one can beat him in debates. 5/5.
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NSG Public wrote:What a fucking douchebag.
by Blakk Metal » Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:57 pm
AuSable River wrote:Mosasauria wrote:One of my problems with this is that the very thing that corrupts the government is the very thing you trust more than the government.
strawman
I dont trust government at all dude.
without government, corrupt corporations die on the vine.
for example, how in the heck is an inefficient, corrupt, and wasteful firm going to survive screwing the customer or engaging in fraud or criminal/civil negligence?
only within anarchist societies can these firms in the defense industry gain absolutist power.
but not within a constitutional federal republic or most other variations of liberal democracy.
by Desu Desu Desu Desu » Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:58 pm
by Norstal » Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:00 pm
Toronto Sun wrote:Best poster ever. ★★★★★
New York Times wrote:No one can beat him in debates. 5/5.
IGN wrote:Literally the best game I've ever played. 10/10
NSG Public wrote:What a fucking douchebag.
by Miss Defied » Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:06 pm
Norstal wrote:Desu Desu Desu Desu wrote:
That's more or less because they have zombie puppets to give them $$$.
There's also prostitution, weapon sales, organ sales, Chinese medicine if you want examples of businesses that requires no zombies. I can go on and on to prove this libertarian notion that a corrupt organization or business will die in a total free market.
by AuSable River » Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:11 pm
Wamitoria wrote:AuSable River wrote:for example, how in the heck is an inefficient, corrupt, and wasteful firm going to survive screwing the customer or engaging in fraud or criminal/civil negligence?
Survive or be held accountable? Shoddy business practices are likely to collapse a business, but that doesn't mean the people who screwed others over will be held accountable without proper governance.
by Norstal » Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:11 pm
Miss Defied wrote:Norstal wrote:There's also prostitution, weapon sales, organ sales, Chinese medicine if you want examples of businesses that requires no zombies. I can go on and on to prove this libertarian notion that a corrupt organization or business will die in a total free market.
strawman because irrespective of your lack of facts, logic and empirical evidence
you're inane liberal logic shows your lunacy at the hands of the corrupt government
hurr durr
Toronto Sun wrote:Best poster ever. ★★★★★
New York Times wrote:No one can beat him in debates. 5/5.
IGN wrote:Literally the best game I've ever played. 10/10
NSG Public wrote:What a fucking douchebag.
by AuSable River » Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:14 pm
Norstal wrote:Desu Desu Desu Desu wrote:
That's more or less because they have zombie puppets to give them $$$.
There's also prostitution, weapon sales, organ sales, Chinese medicine if you want examples of businesses that requires no zombies. I can go on and on to prove this libertarian notion that a corrupt organization or business will die in a total free market.
by AuSable River » Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:16 pm
by AuSable River » Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:18 pm
by Wirbel » Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:20 pm
Cameroi wrote:liberals want government to earn its keep. "conservatives" don't. government gets bigger as a compromise between them. one that no one wants.
corruption is part of the same compromise, and one that conservatives seem to want. seems like the only thing conservatives want to conserve is the ways they are able to get away with corruption.
Mikoyan-Guryevich wrote:Don't RP that your naval strike force has just launched 1000 fighter jets, this is just pure shit.
by AuSable River » Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:21 pm
Mavorpen wrote:AuSable River wrote:strawman
I dont trust government at all dude.
without government, corrupt corporations die on the vine.
Source?AuSable River wrote:for example, how in the heck is an inefficient, corrupt, and wasteful firm going to survive screwing the customer or engaging in fraud or criminal/civil negligence?
Easy, by being exceptionally large and having large amounts of money. It's inevitable that they will crush anyone that tries to compete.
by Wirbel » Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:22 pm
Norstal wrote:Miss Defied wrote:strawman because irrespective of your lack of facts, logic and empirical evidence
you're inane liberal logic shows your lunacy at the hands of the corrupt government
hurr durr
Yes that's right, I am a statanist. I worship the state and satan. Fear me. Fear and cower before my progressive social programs. We also do weekly orgies as part of worshiping satan. But they're EVIL orgies.
Mikoyan-Guryevich wrote:Don't RP that your naval strike force has just launched 1000 fighter jets, this is just pure shit.
by AuSable River » Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:23 pm
Blakk Metal wrote:AuSable River wrote:
strawman
I dont trust government at all dude.
without government, corrupt corporations die on the vine.
for example, how in the heck is an inefficient, corrupt, and wasteful firm going to survive screwing the customer or engaging in fraud or criminal/civil negligence?
only within anarchist societies can these firms in the defense industry gain absolutist power.
but not within a constitutional federal republic or most other variations of liberal democracy.
ANSWER THE FRIGGIN' QUESTION FOR ONCE!
by Mavorpen » Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:24 pm
AuSable River wrote:indeed, are you aware that thousands, if not millions of free market firms fail yearly ?
AuSable River wrote:again for the 20th time, explain the process whereby a firm can crush competition without satisfying consumer preferences.
AuSable River wrote:until you answer this challenge --- dont bother with these inane strawman diversions.
by Wirbel » Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:25 pm
AuSable River wrote:Mavorpen wrote:Source?
Easy, by being exceptionally large and having large amounts of money. It's inevitable that they will crush anyone that tries to compete.
source ??!!!
what is the source for 2+2 = 4 ???
indeed, are you aware that thousands, if not millions of free market firms fail yearly ?
again for the 20th time, explain the process whereby a firm can crush competition without satisfying consumer preferences.
until you answer this challenge --- dont bother with these inane strawman diversions.
Mikoyan-Guryevich wrote:Don't RP that your naval strike force has just launched 1000 fighter jets, this is just pure shit.
by AuSable River » Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:27 pm
by Mavorpen » Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:27 pm
Wirbel wrote:Mavorpen, how do you have an "exceptionally large" company with "large amounts of money" without pleasing any kind of customer. You've got to get up there first...
Wirbel wrote:And also, if you are rich, how do you stay rich if your customers hate you and don't buy anything from you?
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