Govt is corrupt, so why do liberals want bigger govt !?!?

[New Rogernomics]

Establishment liberals such as Obama aren't even leftists.

Also, as a leftist, I oppose the existence of the state.

Obama is center-right (on global terms), but in Europe or Australasia the policies he advocates would align with the far right.

[Mavorpen]

to the leftist zombie mob, kindly withhold comments until I deal with malvoren -- as I stated in a previous post it is impossible to deal with myriad zombies all at once, it would be easier and more informative to deal with one at a time.

I am calling mavoren out -- I challenged your BS in an earlier post -- please respond if you have the wherewithal.

If not then I will pick another big govenment type to debunk.

I will give you 5 minutes dude.

I already responded. But it's good to know that you're afraid of being wrong so you give people a time limit.

[Death Metal]

to the leftist zombie mob, kindly withhold comments until I deal with malvoren

Stop with your passive-aggressive flaming.

[AuSable River]

You posted four minutes ago.

He apparently thinks I'm the Flash.

good, I will give you more time to find some more intellectually dishonest links showing that only republicans are corrupt and run budget deficits.

[Forster Keys]

You posted four minutes ago.

He apparently thinks I'm the Flash.

Even the Flash requires a few moments to construct a thought out argument.

[Death Metal]

And furthermore, I believe that LIBORmust be destroyed.

[Forster Keys]

to the leftist zombie mob, kindly withhold comments until I deal with malvoren -- as I stated in a previous post it is impossible to deal with myriad zombies all at once, it would be easier and more informative to deal with one at a time.

I am calling mavoren out -- I challenged your BS in an earlier post -- please respond if you have the wherewithal.

If not then I will pick another big govenment type to debunk.

I will give you 5 minutes dude.

BRAAAAINS!

[Mavorpen]

He apparently thinks I'm the Flash.

Even the Flash requires a few moments to construct a thought out argument.

I must be pretty fast though... he hasn't even realized that I responded.

[United Marxist Nations]

to the leftist zombie mob, kindly withhold comments until I deal with malvoren -- as I stated in a previous post it is impossible to deal with myriad zombies all at once, it would be easier and more informative to deal with one at a time.

I am calling mavoren out -- I challenged your BS in an earlier post -- please respond if you have the wherewithal.

If not then I will pick another big govenment type to debunk.

I will give you 5 minutes dude.

Give him 1 minute. We want to argue, and it's difficult to argue with people we agree with.

[Zionale]

to the leftist zombie mob, kindly withhold comments until I deal with malvoren -- as I stated in a previous post it is impossible to deal with myriad zombies all at once, it would be easier and more informative to deal with one at a time.

I am calling mavoren out -- I challenged your BS in an earlier post -- please respond if you have the wherewithal.

If not then I will pick another big govenment type to debunk.

I will give you 5 minutes dude.

alright folks you heard him we liberal zombies should just stand aside as he calls us zombies

[AuSable River]

to the leftist zombie mob, kindly withhold comments until I deal with malvoren -- as I stated in a previous post it is impossible to deal with myriad zombies all at once, it would be easier and more informative to deal with one at a time.

I am calling mavoren out -- I challenged your BS in an earlier post -- please respond if you have the wherewithal.

If not then I will pick another big govenment type to debunk.

I will give you 5 minutes dude.

I already responded. But it's good to know that you're afraid of being wrong so you give people a time limit.

You didnt respond to anything, I called out your sources 1) the one that dishonestly claims that the obama term started in 2010 after he submitted massive stimulus spending in 2009. and 2) the links that shows budget deficits that mysteriously stop at the end of the bush term

Lastly, you didnt answer my challenges

[Death Metal]

to the leftist zombie mob, kindly withhold comments until I deal with malvoren -- as I stated in a previous post it is impossible to deal with myriad zombies all at once, it would be easier and more informative to deal with one at a time.

I am calling mavoren out -- I challenged your BS in an earlier post -- please respond if you have the wherewithal.

If not then I will pick another big govenment type to debunk.

I will give you 5 minutes dude.

alright folks you heard him we liberal zombies should just stand aside as he calls us zombies

AuSable is just another nonconformist. They're all the same.

[Forster Keys]

Even the Flash requires a few moments to construct a thought out argument.

I must be pretty fast though... he hasn't even realized that I responded.

Double standards only apply to the leftist horde.

[Amitra]

Establishment liberals such as Obama aren't even leftists.

Also, as a leftist, I oppose the existence of the state.

I feel the same. Instead of having a centralized government, I'm more in favor of management at a local level, by the people.

[Arborlawn]

to the leftist zombie mob, kindly withhold comments until I deal with malvoren -- as I stated in a previous post it is impossible to deal with myriad zombies all at once, it would be easier and more informative to deal with one at a time.

I am calling mavoren out -- I challenged your BS in an earlier post -- please respond if you have the wherewithal.

If not then I will pick another big govenment type to debunk.

I will give you 5 minutes dude.

You sound like a giant slow government incapable of efficiently handling its populace's needs.

[United Marxist Nations]

to the leftist zombie mob, kindly withhold comments until I deal with malvoren -- as I stated in a previous post it is impossible to deal with myriad zombies all at once, it would be easier and more informative to deal with one at a time.

I am calling mavoren out -- I challenged your BS in an earlier post -- please respond if you have the wherewithal.

If not then I will pick another big govenment type to debunk.

I will give you 5 minutes dude.

alright folks you heard him we liberal zombies should just stand aside as he calls us zombies

Hey, I for one enjoy eating human brains!

[New Rogernomics]

to the leftist zombie mob, kindly withhold comments until I deal with malvoren

Stop with your passive-aggressive flaming.

It is all they do, besides attend rallies, preach whatever Ron Paul states as gospel and pretend that the American political system actually cares what they think. It is a rather sad existence, you are better off joining political movements to get chicks/guys; and have a quick one than bother about politics. That is my apathetic perspective.

[Jari Head]

Wow, more anti government bashing from the ultra right wing, Ron Paul fanboy, river boy. Should I be or ? not a bit, Minds are like parachutes, they work best when open, his mind is closed to anything that even faintly supports government or capitalist economy. It's impossible to argue with this mindset so why bother, you'll only be accused of being a leftist, a drone or both.
I therefore give you a double

[AuSable River]

I can make 10 posts for everyone that this malvoren makes.

I mean if you have an ideological belief, then defend it -- what is this guy waiting for ??

must be scrambling to find more bs links

[Zionale]

alright folks you heard him we liberal zombies should just stand aside as he calls us zombies

Hey, I for one enjoy eating human brains!

yeah well eating a human brain can subject your body to more than enough chemicals that can kill you, well unless you're an actual zombie... Carry on then!

[Arborlawn]

Establishment liberals such as Obama aren't even leftists.

Also, as a leftist, I oppose the existence of the state.

I feel the same. Instead of having a centralized government, I'm more in favor of management at a local level, by the people.

I prefer a government that makes provisions for services and enacts laws centrally, but provides and governs in a local or regional manner. If this makes any sense.

[Mavorpen]

You didnt respond to anything, I called out your sources 1) the one that dishonestly claims that the obama term started in 2010 after he submitted massive stimulus spending in 2009. and 2) the links that shows budget deficits that mysteriously stop at the end of the bush term

Lastly, you didnt answer my challenges

I didn't respond to anything? You called out my sources, indeed. I explained why that was stupid. Obama inherited Bush's 2009 deficit. The 2009 fiscal year began October 1,2008. That's four months before Obama took office. So no, that was Bush's deficit. Again, you're ignoring the other charts that list Obama's deficit.

So all you've done is ignore every piece of evidence possible. Nice.

[Death Metal]

I can make 10 posts for everyone that this malvoren makes.

I mean if you have an ideological belief, then defend it -- what is this guy waiting for ??

must be scrambling to find more bs links

For you to acknowledge that he has defended it.

[Zionale]

I can make 10 posts for everyone that this malvoren makes.

I mean if you have an ideological belief, then defend it -- what is this guy waiting for ??

must be scrambling to find more bs links

y'know part of a debate is being respectful of your opponent even if your opponent isn't being respectful to you

[Beiluxia]

I already responded. But it's good to know that you're afraid of being wrong so you give people a time limit.

You didnt respond to anything, I called out your sources 1) the one that dishonestly claims that the obama term started in 2010 after he submitted massive stimulus spending in 2009. and 2) the links that shows budget deficits that mysteriously stop at the end of the bush term

Lastly, you didnt answer my challenges

FOr example, he posts a links to images that purport to show that republicans are the biggest deficit spenders -- including an intellectually dishonest link that fails to show deficit increases under obama (his link mysteriously cuts off prior to 2009 when national debt expanded from $10 trillion to a record $16 trillion in 4 years).

Lolwhut? Only one of the links leaves out Obama. The other two include him. Also, I'm tired of the right saying that Obama increased the debt by $5 trillion. No, he did not. It increased UNDER him, not because of him. Here, more evidence you're full of shit:

http://gooznews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/changes_deficit.jpg

Moreover, another intellectually dishonest link begins the obama administration from 2010 instead of 2009 when he pushed through through trillions in new stimulus spending.

2009 was Bush's fiscal year.

In sum, this ideologue is dishonest. His ideological programming allows him to correctly see republican hypocrisy and corruption -- but he is blinded by programming to see at least equally damaging democrat party corruption and waste.

No, it's not. You just don't like facts. I've shown that liberals aren't the ones that make government bigger. You've given no evidence otherwise.

No matter, I will use logic to destroy him starting with the following questions:

1) how can this ideologue explain how bankers earned more profit in 2 years under obama, pelosi and reid then the previous eight years under bush ? And is this any surprise when wall street players dominate the obama cabinet ? (from the leftwing huffpo: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/0 ... .html)

It doesn't. My whole post was about how you're full of shit claiming that liberals want to make government bigger. I agree Obama has been shit when it comes to not giving in to corporations.

2) if the obama administration is not corrupt -- then explain why lobbyist spending reached record levels in the immediate two years after he gained power ?? And is Mavorpen surprised that from 2008 to 2010, washington was 'open for corruption to the highest bidder' (from a leftwing thinktank: http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/1 ... le=nc)

What am I surprised about? Enough with the straw men.

3) And lastly, are you so deluded that you think that only republicans are corrupt ?

Nope, but nice straw man.

I will deal with this leftist mavoren and his offensive attitude and move on to the next leftwinger.

You've dealt with nothing, you've dodged everything and refuse to give any evidence.

Edit: The name's Mavorpen, not "Malvoren", by the way.