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Postby Mavorpen » Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:53 pm

AuSable River wrote:I can make 10 posts for everyone that this malvoren makes.

I mean if you have an ideological belief, then defend it -- what is this guy waiting for ??

must be scrambling to find more bs links


It took you over 6 minutes to even realize I replied to your post. The hell are you talking about?
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Postby Forster Keys » Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:53 pm

AuSable River wrote:I can make 10 posts for everyone that this malvoren makes.

I mean if you have an ideological belief, then defend it -- what is this guy waiting for ??

must be scrambling to find more bs links


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Postby AuSable River » Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:55 pm

come on malvoren, I will make it easier for you.

forget about my challenges -- i dont want your mouse or your head to explode trying to find leftwing bs on the web.

Answer this simple question --- obama (and romney) will get over $1 billion in campaign contributions ---

My assertion is that this corrupts politicians ? hence, those lobbyists that contribute millions to candidates like romney and obama are really buying favors ?

what say you leftwing big government type that believes only republicans are corrupt ???

it aint a hard question.

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Postby New Rogernomics » Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:55 pm

Forster Keys wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:
I must be pretty fast though... he hasn't even realized that I responded.


Double standards only apply to the leftist horde.
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Postby Forster Keys » Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:56 pm

This thread is increasingly reminding me of an episode of Pokemon.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:56 pm

AuSable River wrote:come on malvoren, I will make it easier for you.

forget about my challenges -- i dont want your mouse or your head to explode trying to find leftwing bs on the web.

Answer this simple question --- obama (and romney) will get over $1 billion in campaign contributions ---

My assertion is that this corrupts politicians ? hence, those lobbyists that contribute millions to candidates like romney and obama are really buying favors ?

what say you leftwing big government type that believes only republicans are corrupt ???

it aint a hard question.

He's not a 'leftist', I am a Marxist-Leninist, I would know.
And you're accusing him of only thinking republicans are corrupt? You only think that democrats are corrupt!
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Postby Death Metal » Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:56 pm

Also, we can claim superiority to you by demanding arbitrary time limits and making up stuff too.

Watch!

You have 20 seconds to tell me why the LIBOR scandal isn't a direct result of the private sector's own corruption. Using five different sources. And one of them must feature a picture of the Iron Sheik somewhere in the article.

If you fail to do this, you concede your argument.

And...go.
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Postby Beiluxia » Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:56 pm

AuSable River wrote:I can make 10 posts for everyone that this malvoren makes.

I mean if you have an ideological belief, then defend it -- what is this guy waiting for ??

must be scrambling to find more bs links

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Postby Death Metal » Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:57 pm

Forster Keys wrote:This thread is increasingly reminding me of an episode of Pokemon.


Eh, Team Rocket are better at debate.
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Postby Forster Keys » Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:58 pm

New Rogernomics wrote:
Forster Keys wrote:
Double standards only apply to the leftist horde.
I demand my free money and food, the propaganda tapes from hollywood, the couch and the mind numbing agent; because Glen Beck says that is all what leftism is about. :p


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Postby Arborlawn » Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:58 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
AuSable River wrote:come on malvoren, I will make it easier for you.

forget about my challenges -- i dont want your mouse or your head to explode trying to find leftwing bs on the web.

Answer this simple question --- obama (and romney) will get over $1 billion in campaign contributions ---

My assertion is that this corrupts politicians ? hence, those lobbyists that contribute millions to candidates like romney and obama are really buying favors ?

what say you leftwing big government type that believes only republicans are corrupt ???

it aint a hard question.

He's not a 'leftist', I am a Marxist-Leninist, I would know.


:clap: I must return the applause, friend.
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Postby AuSable River » Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:58 pm

Forster Keys wrote:This thread is increasingly reminding me of an episode of Pokemon.


I get bs sources and ad hominems from dudes like malvoren and virtually every else and I issue a simple challenge of

"DO you think that the hundreds of millions in campaign contributions corrupts politicians ?'

and the lefties run and hide ?

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Postby Revolutopia » Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:58 pm

AuSable River wrote:come on malvoren, I will make it easier for you.


Does anyone know who this malvoren he is talking about is as I have failed to see any post by anyone with that name?
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Postby Mavorpen » Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:58 pm

AuSable River wrote:come on malvoren, I will make it easier for you.

forget about my challenges -- i dont want your mouse or your head to explode trying to find leftwing bs on the web.

The only reason my head would explode would be due to your horrible spelling, grammar, and inability to even take one second to look at my name.
AuSable River wrote:Answer this simple question --- obama (and romney) will get over $1 billion in campaign contributions ---

My assertion is that this corrupts politicians ? hence, those lobbyists that contribute millions to candidates like romney and obama are really buying favors ?

what say you leftwing big government type that believes only republicans are corrupt ???

I never said that.
AuSable River wrote:it aint a hard question.


It sure is a stupid one though.
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Postby Forster Keys » Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:59 pm

Death Metal wrote:
Forster Keys wrote:This thread is increasingly reminding me of an episode of Pokemon.


Eh, Team Rocket are better at debate.


I wonder what side they'd take.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:59 pm

Arborlawn wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:He's not a 'leftist', I am a Marxist-Leninist, I would know.

:clap: I must return the applause, friend.

Thank you, comrade.
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Postby Beiluxia » Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:59 pm

AuSable River wrote: I will deal with this leftist mavoren and his offensive attitude and move on to the next leftwinger.

Two pages later...

AuSable River wrote:come on malvoren, I will make it easier for you.

forget about my challenges -- i dont want your mouse or your head to explode trying to find leftwing bs on the web.

Answer this simple question --- obama (and romney) will get over $1 billion in campaign contributions ---

My assertion is that this corrupts politicians ? hence, those lobbyists that contribute millions to candidates like romney and obama are really buying favors ?

what say you leftwing big government type that believes only republicans are corrupt ???

it aint a hard question.

At this rate you'll never finish sifting through the continually stacking pile of "liberal zombies" waiting at your doorstep.
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Postby Death Metal » Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:59 pm

AuSable River wrote:
Forster Keys wrote:This thread is increasingly reminding me of an episode of Pokemon.


I get bs sources and ad hominems from dudes like malvoren and virtually every else and I issue a simple challenge of

"DO you think that the hundreds of millions in campaign contributions corrupts politicians ?'

and the lefties run and hide ?


We're not running. We're right here. You're the one pretending our argument doesn't exist and adding arbitrary conditions.
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Postby Zionale » Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:59 pm

Forster Keys wrote:This thread is increasingly reminding me of an episode of Pokemon.


really? I'm actually intrigued by this. Can you explain please?

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Postby Natair » Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:00 pm

AuSable River wrote:to the leftist zombie mob, kindly withhold comments until I deal with malvoren -- as I stated in a previous post it is impossible to deal with myriad zombies all at once, it would be easier and more informative to deal with one at a time.

I am calling mavoren out -- I challenged your BS in an earlier post -- please respond if you have the wherewithal.

If not then I will pick another big govenment type to debunk.

I will give you 5 minutes dude.

Dude, you're not "debunking" shit. You're FAILING at defending your own beliefs, accusing your opponent of twisting the truth. Typical right-wing tactics. Instead of making a legitimate argument, they try to make themselves look more credible than their opponent, no matter how wrong they are.

And for the love of all that is unholy, liberal/left-wing does NOT equal someone who wants 'big government'
Your argument is void.
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Postby Avenio » Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:00 pm

AuSable River wrote:"DO you think that the hundreds of millions in campaign contributions corrupts politicians ?'


Can it corrupt? Sure. Does it necessarily corrupt? No.

This has been Simple Answers to Simple Questions.

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Postby AuSable River » Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:00 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
AuSable River wrote:come on malvoren, I will make it easier for you.

forget about my challenges -- i dont want your mouse or your head to explode trying to find leftwing bs on the web.

The only reason my head would explode would be due to your horrible spelling, grammar, and inability to even take one second to look at my name.
AuSable River wrote:Answer this simple question --- obama (and romney) will get over $1 billion in campaign contributions ---

My assertion is that this corrupts politicians ? hence, those lobbyists that contribute millions to candidates like romney and obama are really buying favors ?

what say you leftwing big government type that believes only republicans are corrupt ???

I never said that.
AuSable River wrote:it aint a hard question.


It sure is a stupid one though.



you didnt answer my question --- i will issue it for the 3rd time -- do you think that the hundreds of millions of dollars that obama has gotten in campaign contributions since 2008 corrupts the process ?????


and yes, I understand and I believe that the campaign largesse corrupts republican candidates.

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Postby Death Metal » Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:01 pm

Forster Keys wrote:
Death Metal wrote:
Eh, Team Rocket are better at debate.


I wonder what side they'd take.


Well, they're clearly AnCaps, they only respond to the authority of a tyrannical businessman.
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(Trump is Reagan 2.0: A nationalistic bimbo who will ruin America.)
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Alts: Ronpaulatia, Bisonopolis, Iga, Gygaxia, The Children of Skyrim, Tinfoil Fedoras

Pro: Civil Equality, Scaled Income Taxes, Centralized Govtt, Moderate Business Regulations, Heavy Metal
Con: Censorship in any medium, Sales Tax, Flat Tax, Small Govt, Overly Large Govt, Laissez Faire, AutoTuner.

I support Obama. And so would FA Hayek.

34 arguments Libertarians (and sometimes AnCaps) make, and why they are wrong.

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Postby United Marxist Nations » Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:01 pm

Forster Keys wrote:This thread is increasingly reminding me of an episode of Pokemon.

Huffington Post, I choose YOU!
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