Have I no right?

[New Kereptica]

I know what viable is UT, and its a word that should never be used to justify killing another human being.

Kid, once you've had children, you'll have any idea of what a woman has to go through during pregnancy. I hope you'll get a more pragmatic point of view from the process. If you choose to reproduce, that is. I nearly hope you didn't.

I know you aren't talking to me, I am well past being a kid and am very well versed with children.

Have you ever pushed one through your vagina?

[Dempublicents1]

gee im the 7th child of a couple that would have stopped after the 3rd if there had been reliable birth control and/or safe legal abortion in 1957.

do *I* have the right to live? yes i do because i was born.

does it bother me that if it had been safe, legal and reliable i never would have existed? not one little bit.

It's amazing to me how many people care for their own mothers so little that they would advocate having her used as an unwilling incubator. Am I the only one bothered by that?

[The Rifle Brigade]

BBBeeeeepppppppp .... Wrong Answer

If you're going to claim that you're "well past being a kid", you might want to refrain from puerile "debating" tactics like that.

If you are older, that's really sad. The only reasonable excuse I could see for your lack of understanding of natal biology (and basic rhetoric skills) was that you were very young.

[Grave_n_idle]

I'm pretty sure that spooning it onto the counter would make the ten-day-ultimatum a moot point.

Solution: Fish bowl. You can even warm the water if you want.

Sprinkle some kool-aid... fruity flavour AND all the protein of a full meal.

[Araraukar]

What isn't civilized about defending unborn children?

1. Child. They're fetuses until they're born. After birth they're babies. Don't call then children until they've been born.

2. You're defending the rights of nonviable parasitical humans against the rights of fully viable, biologically adult women who for so many reasons do not or can not be burdened with a child.

3. If you pull adoption out again, I'll have to smack you for ignoring the same answers for the fifth time.

[Hydesland]

Oh, sorry guys. I didn't see you all circle-jerking there. Carry on.

[Muravyets]

I've pretty much had it with playing badminton with Kormanthor as the


I'm going to bed. And I'm taking my uterus with me. Good night, all.

[Katganistan]

The Question was, " Should organ donation be compulsory " ? I say thats not his right to say. That is the choice of each individual.

Then so should be abortion. It's the woman whose organs (especially the womb, but her whole body is involved) are in question, so she should get to call the shots.

Then she should have made that decision before she allowed it to happen.

Right. Women should decide to be raped before they allow it to happen.

[The Rifle Brigade]

I've pretty much had it with playing badminton with Kormanthor as the


I'm going to bed. And I'm taking my uterus with me. Good night, all.

Bad comparison. A shuttlecock almost comes to a point.

[Grave_n_idle]

I know what viable is UT, and its a word that should never be used to justify killing another human being.

Kid, once you've had children, you'll have any idea of what a woman has to go through during pregnancy. I hope you'll get a more pragmatic point of view from the process. If you choose to reproduce, that is. I nearly hope you didn't.

I know you aren't talking to me, I am well past being a kid and am very well versed with children.

Have you ever pushed one through your vagina?

Especially outwards.

[Tunizcha]

I've pretty much had it with playing badminton with Kormanthor as the


I'm going to bed. And I'm taking my uterus with me. Good night, all.

That's right, you're female. I almost forgot for a second. Nighty night.

[Katganistan]

*sigh* do I have to trot out Bob, the Janitor again?

Apparently.

[Araraukar]

There's a strawwwwwwman
waiting in the sky!
He'd like to come and meet us,
but he thinks he'd blow our minds!
There's a strawwwwwwman
waiting in the sky!
He's told us not to blow it
'Cause he knows its all worthwhile!

Banned for parodying one of my favourite songs!

...oh, wait, this wasn't Forum 7...

[The Rifle Brigade]

The Question was, " Should organ donation be compulsory " ? I say thats not his right to say. That is the choice of each individual.

Then so should be abortion. It's the woman whose organs (especially the womb, but her whole body is involved) are in question, so she should get to call the shots.

Then she should have made that decision before she allowed it to happen.

Right. Women should decide to be raped before they allow it to happen.

Well, like Kormanthor said, "Don't do the deed if you don't want the chance".

See, its her own fault for being raped.

[Hellond]

Ok, so far, I've seen Kormanthor completely ignore all the arguements, while his is backed up by little more then emotional response.

Then again, that should be expected, right?

Anyway,s I'm all for choice. If you don't like abortion, don't abort.

[Kormanthor]

I know what viable is UT, and its a word that should never be used to justify killing another human being.

Kid, once you've had children, you'll have any idea of what a woman has to go through during pregnancy. I hope you'll get a more pragmatic point of view from the process. If you choose to reproduce, that is. I nearly hope you didn't.

I know you aren't talking to me, I am well past being a kid and am very well versed with children.

Have you ever pushed one through your vagina?

You made the decision honey, so be woman enough to do the right thing.

[Ryadn]

If you don't want to take a chance then don't do the deed.

Considering the entire premise of this thread was about rape, that's pretty unhelpful.

"If you don't want a kid, don't get raped!"

[The Rifle Brigade]

Ok, so far, I've seen Kormanthor completely ignore all the arguements, while his is backed up by little more then emotional response.

Then again, that should be expected, right?

Anyway,s I'm all for choice. If you don't like abortion, don't abort.

Kormanthor is female. And she pretty much just always makes poorly crafted, simplistic, misinformed arguments and then makes no response whatsoever when saliently refuted. Check the "Word to the Wise" thread, its pretty much the same thing.

[New Kereptica]

You made the decision honey, so be woman enough to do the right thing.

What? That is an entirely nonsensical response to my question.

I'll ask again: have you ever pushed a child through your vagina? (Especially outwards, as Grave_n_idle was so kind to add)

[Katganistan]

They are conceived by two human beings, that makes the child human by default.

I never said fetuses weren't human. They're parasitical lifeforms of the human species. It's up to the woman to decide if they want to foster the parasite or not. That's the point of being pro-choice; they can decide not to have an abortion if they want to, but they should also have the right to choose to be rid of it.

As I said, she should make that choice before having sex ... not after.

As we have said repeatedly, READ THE ORIGINAL POST.

[Grave_n_idle]

You made the decision honey, so be woman enough to do the right thing.

So... that's a no?

[The Rifle Brigade]

You made the decision honey, so be woman enough to do the right thing.

Again, read the OP. This is a situation of rape. The woman DIDN'T MAKE THE DECISION.

[Ryadn]

You're telling other people what they should and shouldn't be allowed to do with their bodies... and you're mad because someone thinks you shouldn't make crappy arguments. Ironical, much?

Why do a lot of people like to conflate criticism with the belief that they shouldn't have the right to speak? How are the two even remotely connected?

I don't know, but the same people seem to conflate disagreement with lack of understanding.

[Araraukar]

No matter how you try to justify it .... doesn't change the fact that it is murder plain and simple.

So is not giving your liver to the 10-year-old girl born with a defective liver. What are you still hanging around here? Go donate!

And for it to be murder, you'd need to have someone to kill in the first place.

Oh, an interesting offshoot here that came up during lunch today... Did you know that the preferred method of aborting in the modern Russia is in fact for the gravid woman to ingest a poison that causes the fetus to die, and thus the woman's body dumps it automatically. I heard they also abort viable fetuses this way, that is, up to 8 months of pregnancy. I'm sure Kormanthor will proclaim jihad against Russia, but I think it's worth pointing out that at least we're talking about aborting nonviable fetuses, not what we'd term as "babies".

[UnhealthyTruthseeker]

And she pretty much just always makes poorly crafted, simplistic, misinformed arguments and then makes no response whatsoever when saliently refuted.

Redundant. You already said she's female, right?

*Awaits death by flames*