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New Kereptica
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Postby New Kereptica » Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:36 pm

Kormanthor wrote:
New Kereptica wrote:
Kormanthor wrote:Is this not what this discussion is about?


Nope. It's turned into a general abortion debate.


Thats not how I read it


I'm not surprised, considering the deplorable writing skills you've exhibited thus far.
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McCullen Hegemony
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Postby McCullen Hegemony » Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:36 pm

I was actually referring to the millions of unborn babies contained in said nut... but the thought of going through life with only one nut may cause some people to die.

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Bavin
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Postby Bavin » Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:36 pm

Tunizcha wrote:
McCullen Hegemony wrote:I hope your all happy I've finally busted a nut laughing, making you all murder's.


Murder's? Who the hell is Murder, and why are we all his?

A common euphemism for the FSM.
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Postby Katganistan » Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:36 pm

Kormanthor wrote:
Bavin wrote:
Zoharland wrote:

Should organ donation be compulsory too?

Yes, it should.


Thats not your choice Bavin

Correct. As forcing a pregnancy to be carried to term is not yours.

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Kormanthor
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Postby Kormanthor » Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:36 pm

Katganistan wrote:
Kormanthor wrote:
Grave_n_idle wrote:
Kormanthor wrote:I don't understand how anyone can come in this thread and try to tell QM that he has no right to be alive.... Shame on you all.


I don't understand how you can come into this thread and make unsupported claims. Shame on you.



Here we have a living human being that survived the possibility of abortion and all you can talk about is the same old excuses. Don't you feel any compassion for anyone?

Appeal to emotion.



What rule have I broken Katganistan? Why do you always side with them? I am expressing my opinion just like them.
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UnhealthyTruthseeker
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Postby UnhealthyTruthseeker » Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:37 pm

Grave_n_idle wrote:Death by... busted nut?

*images I didn't need*


Images you didn't need? Why, my friend, you can find plenty of those on Encyclopedia Dramatica.org!
A little homework for you!

What part of L(f(t)) = Int(exp(-s*t)*f(t),t,0,inf) don't you understand?

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Tunizcha
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Postby Tunizcha » Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:37 pm

Kormanthor wrote:
Thats not your choice


Thanks for answering your own arguments.
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Takaram
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Postby Takaram » Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:37 pm

The Rifle Brigade wrote:
Neo Art wrote:
Kormanthor wrote:
Tunizcha wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:
Kormanthor wrote:Yahweh nothing more then a False God

Fixed


Beat ya to it.



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Don't stop BELIEVING!


Just a baby fetus.
Doesn't mean to impeeede us.
It took the uterine track going aaannnyyywheeeerreeee...

Just a cluster of cells...
Scrape it and you go to hell...
It took the vacuum tube going aaaannyyywwhheeeerreeee...

Don't Stop...Conceiving....Souls you are retrieeeviyeyeennen!


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McCullen Hegemony
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Postby McCullen Hegemony » Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:37 pm

Tunizcha wrote:
McCullen Hegemony wrote:I hope your all happy I've finally busted a nut laughing, making you all murder's.


Murder's? Who the hell is Murder, and why are we all his?


Thank you grammar ranger for pointing out my mistake, clearly I'm the one who should have been aborted for my clear misuse of the English language.
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Bavin
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Postby Bavin » Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:37 pm

Kormanthor wrote:
Katganistan wrote:
Kormanthor wrote:
Grave_n_idle wrote:
Kormanthor wrote:I don't understand how anyone can come in this thread and try to tell QM that he has no right to be alive.... Shame on you all.


I don't understand how you can come into this thread and make unsupported claims. Shame on you.



Here we have a living human being that survived the possibility of abortion and all you can talk about is the same old excuses. Don't you feel any compassion for anyone?

Appeal to emotion.



What rule have I broken Katganistan? Why do you always side with them?

Its not a NS rule, just a common trick used by politicos and radio hosts and the like to convince the masses to agree with them.
The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that, in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this pixel on the scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner, how frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds.- Carl Sagan

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New Kereptica
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Postby New Kereptica » Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:38 pm

Kormanthor wrote:
Katganistan wrote:
Kormanthor wrote:
Grave_n_idle wrote:
Kormanthor wrote:I don't understand how anyone can come in this thread and try to tell QM that he has no right to be alive.... Shame on you all.


I don't understand how you can come into this thread and make unsupported claims. Shame on you.



Here we have a living human being that survived the possibility of abortion and all you can talk about is the same old excuses. Don't you feel any compassion for anyone?

Appeal to emotion.



What rule have I broken Katganistan? Why do you always side with them?


Rule? None, other than the rules of logic. And I believe she sides with us because her opinions are similar to ours.
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:38 pm

Kormanthor wrote: What rule have I broken Katganistan? Why do you always side with them?


Pointing out that your post was an appeal to emotion is not a moderation action.
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Kormanthor
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Postby Kormanthor » Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:38 pm

New Kereptica wrote:
Kormanthor wrote:
New Kereptica wrote:
Kormanthor wrote:Is this not what this discussion is about?


Nope. It's turned into a general abortion debate.


Thats not how I read it


I'm not surprised, considering the deplorable writing skills you've exhibited thus far.



Well thats one opinion that really doesn't bother me
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Milks Empire
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Postby Milks Empire » Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:38 pm

No human at any stage of development (one cell to old person) has the right to leech off another. Full stop.
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Araraukar
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Postby Araraukar » Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:39 pm

Bavin wrote:
Kormanthor wrote:You can be religious about anything if you you do it enough.

I'm not going to make a masturbation joke here. That would be uncool.

But if you don't, I'll have to... and he/it/she already hates my humour... :rofl:
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:39 pm

Bavin wrote:
Kormanthor wrote:
Katganistan wrote:
Kormanthor wrote:
Grave_n_idle wrote:
Kormanthor wrote:I don't understand how anyone can come in this thread and try to tell QM that he has no right to be alive.... Shame on you all.


I don't understand how you can come into this thread and make unsupported claims. Shame on you.



Here we have a living human being that survived the possibility of abortion and all you can talk about is the same old excuses. Don't you feel any compassion for anyone?

Appeal to emotion.



What rule have I broken Katganistan? Why do you always side with them?

Its not a NS rule, just a common trick used by politicos and radio hosts and the like to convince the masses to agree with them.


Logic... is a trick?
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UnhealthyTruthseeker
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Postby UnhealthyTruthseeker » Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:39 pm

Kormanthor wrote:What rule have I broken Katganistan? Why do you always side with them? I am expressing my opinion just like them.


Because it's a well-known fact that mods aren't allowed to have opinions and participate in debates.
A little homework for you!

What part of L(f(t)) = Int(exp(-s*t)*f(t),t,0,inf) don't you understand?

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Takaram
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Postby Takaram » Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:39 pm

Milks Empire wrote:No human at any stage of development has the right to leech off another. Full stop.


This is true.

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Hiddenrun
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Postby Hiddenrun » Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:39 pm

Katganistan wrote:It could not be "legal" and "murder" at the same time.
If wishes were horses, would you go afoot?
Are you deliberately making this difficult or did you really not understand?

If the law defined a fetus as a person, abortion would be murder. You can argue that wouldn't be true, make some sort of legal argument about how the legislature might, for policy reasons, create an exception here. But let's just assume that the big boogeyman facing us is that if we go and call the fetus a person, we'd run into sticky legal problems (like abortion being murder) that would require messy exceptions etc. It is legally and legislatively easier to say a fetus is not a person. Can we agree on that?

Okay. So let's say the law defines a fetus as a person. Abortion is murder. Would you support abortion?

I ask for two reasons:

1) If you say you would support abortion, then it seems clear that your argument in support of abortion is moral, and not purely legal. I would then have some idea of what thread to follow in discussing that moral argument.

2) If you say you wouldn't support abortion, then it would seem that your argument for abortion is based on its current legality. This would also allow me to follow THAT thread.

All of this assumes that the person I'm asking (don't want to get too personal!) supports abortion right now.

I hope that clarified things. If not, please feel free to ask me questions.
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UnhealthyTruthseeker
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Postby UnhealthyTruthseeker » Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:39 pm

Grave_n_idle wrote:Logic... is a trick?


No, appeal to emotion is.
A little homework for you!

What part of L(f(t)) = Int(exp(-s*t)*f(t),t,0,inf) don't you understand?

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Hydesland
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Postby Hydesland » Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:39 pm

McCullen Hegemony wrote:Thank you grammar ranger for pointing out my mistake, clearly I'm the one who should have been aborted for my clear misuse of the English language.


Grammar ranger? That's a hell of a step up from grammar nazi.

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Araraukar
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Postby Araraukar » Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:40 pm

UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:BTW, has anyone linked to the "Every Sperm is Sacred" sketch yet, because that is absofuckinlutely necessary.

Way ahead of you. ;)
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Kormanthor
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Postby Kormanthor » Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:40 pm

Grave_n_idle wrote:
Kormanthor wrote: What rule have I broken Katganistan? Why do you always side with them?


Pointing out that your post was an appeal to emotion is not a moderation action.


Regardless when a mod makes a post it makes a person wonder just because they are a mod.
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Takaram
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Postby Takaram » Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:40 pm

Kormanthor wrote:
Grave_n_idle wrote:
Kormanthor wrote: What rule have I broken Katganistan? Why do you always side with them?


Pointing out that your post was an appeal to emotion is not a moderation action.


Regardless when a mod makes a post it makes a person wonder just because they are a mod.


Mods are allowed to enjoy NS, and not just by banning n00bs

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Postby The Rifle Brigade » Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:40 pm

Kormanthor wrote:
I don't believe in religion


Great, that means that you don't believe in the following:

Religion, noun:
1.
a.Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.
b.A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.
2.The life or condition of a person in a religious order.
3.A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader.
4.A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.

So, you don't believe in a creator of the universe, you don't believe in a set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader (like, say, Jesus), and you don't believe in a cause, principle, or activity pursued with conscientious devotion.

Good, you're making progress.
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