Have I no right?

[Grave_n_idle]

We unlike filthy muck-wallowing animals are self-conscious rational beings with limitless potential to survive thrive and expand, even leave this planet if ew so chose, or alter it. Unlike animals, humans are infinitely gifted with potential as a whole.

Let me help you with that.

[UnhealthyTruthseeker]

We unlike filthy muck-wallowing animals are self-conscious rational beings with limitless potential to survive thrive and expand, even leave this planet if ew so chose, or alter it. Unlike animals, humans are infinitely gifted with potential as a whole.

Let me help you with that.

It's still wrong. Humans don't have limitless potential.

[Buffett and Colbert]

It's people like you that make human intelligence more valuable.

Oh snap! (as North Suran would say)

We unlike filthy muck-wallowing animals are self-conscious rational beings with limitless potential
Unlike animals, humans are infinitely gifted with potential as a whole.

Actually, in retrospect, this is bullshit.

[Treznor]

It's people like you that make eagle eggs more valuable.

It's people like you that make human intelligence more valuable. We unlike filthy muck-wallowing animals are self-conscious rational beings with limitless potential to survive thrive and expand, even leave this planet if ew so chose, or alter it. Unlike animals, humans are infinitely gifted with potential as a whole.

It's people like you that make self-righteousness so thick with irony. We, unlike filthy muck-wallowing animals, are prone to fouling our own nests through the agency of limitless greed and shortsightedness. Unlike animals, humans are prone to self-destruction instead of seeking balance with their environment.

But aside from all that, what's that got to do with abortion after rape?

[Justice for Mankind]

We unlike filthy muck-wallowing animals are self-conscious rational beings with limitless potential to survive thrive and expand, even leave this planet if ew so chose, or alter it. Unlike animals, humans are infinitely gifted with potential as a whole.

Let me help you with that.

Why'd you do that?

[Grave_n_idle]

We unlike filthy muck-wallowing animals are self-conscious rational beings with limitless potential to survive thrive and expand, even leave this planet if ew so chose, or alter it. Unlike animals, humans are infinitely gifted with potential as a whole.

Let me help you with that.

It's still wrong. Humans don't have limitless potential.

To expand? Sure they do. The potential is limitless. The expansion is limited only by resources and intent.

[The Tofu Islands]

It's people like you that make human intelligence more valuable. We unlike filthy muck-wallowing animals are self-conscious rational beings with limitless potential to survive thrive and expand, even leave this planet if ew so chose, or alter it. Unlike animals, humans are infinitely gifted with potential as a whole.

You speciesist!

[Grave_n_idle]

We unlike filthy muck-wallowing animals are self-conscious rational beings with limitless potential to survive thrive and expand, even leave this planet if ew so chose, or alter it. Unlike animals, humans are infinitely gifted with potential as a whole.

Let me help you with that.

Why'd you do that?

Because most of it was not only nonsensical horseshit... but worse, it was off-topic.

The human capacity for expansion.. that MIGHT be relevent.

[UnhealthyTruthseeker]

The expansion is limited only by resources and intent.

Hence, it's limited. Potential is based not upon just internal properties but the properties of all of space and time.

[Justice for Mankind]

It's people like you that make eagle eggs more valuable.

It's people like you that make human intelligence more valuable. We unlike filthy muck-wallowing animals are self-conscious rational beings with limitless potential to survive thrive and expand, even leave this planet if ew so chose, or alter it. Unlike animals, humans are infinitely gifted with potential as a whole.

It's people like you that make self-righteousness so thick with irony. We, unlike filthy muck-wallowing animals, are prone to fouling our own nests through the agency of limitless greed and shortsightedness. Unlike animals, humans are prone to self-destruction instead of seeking balance with their environment.

CCENSORSHIP! takin' a page from Bush's book

I'll get together with my fellow mankind and make a new one, or repair our current. You really think the climate change issue is too great for mankind to reverse or endure? What little faith you must have in yourself.

[Grave_n_idle]

The expansion is limited only by resources and intent.

Hence, it's limited. Potential is based not upon just internal properties but the properties of all of space and time.

Sure.

And when the human capacity to expand is governed by how much time and space is left in the universe, rather than by the requirement for resources, then we'll finally be approaching a point where that quibble matters.

[Justice for Mankind]

We unlike filthy muck-wallowing animals are self-conscious rational beings with limitless potential to survive thrive and expand, even leave this planet if ew so chose, or alter it. Unlike animals, humans are infinitely gifted with potential as a whole.

Let me help you with that.

Why'd you do that?

Because most of it was not only nonsensical horseshit... but worse, it was off-topic.

The human capacity for expansion.. that MIGHT be relevant.

No, it was emotional manipulation, mostly involving pride and hubris. Manipulation of emotion is a necessary skill for success.

[Grave_n_idle]

It's people like you that make eagle eggs more valuable.

It's people like you that make human intelligence more valuable. We unlike filthy muck-wallowing animals are self-conscious rational beings with limitless potential to survive thrive and expand, even leave this planet if ew so chose, or alter it. Unlike animals, humans are infinitely gifted with potential as a whole.

It's people like you that make self-righteousness so thick with irony. We, unlike filthy muck-wallowing animals, are prone to fouling our own nests through the agency of limitless greed and shortsightedness. Unlike animals, humans are prone to self-destruction instead of seeking balance with their environment.

CCENSORSHIP! takin' a page from Bush's book

I'll get together with my fellow mankind and make a new one, or repair our current. You really think the climate change issue is too great for mankind to reverse or endure? What little faith you must have in yourself.

The topic is abortion.

[UnhealthyTruthseeker]

It's people like you that make self-righteousness so thick with irony. We, unlike filthy muck-wallowing animals, are prone to fouling our own nests through the agency of limitless greed and shortsightedness. Unlike animals, humans are prone to self-destruction instead of seeking balance with their environment.

But aside from all that, what's that got to do with abortion after rape?

Animals and evolution are not really interested in long term balance. Evolution can be just as short-sighted and destructive as we are.

[Justice for Mankind]

It's people like you that make eagle eggs more valuable.

It's people like you that make human intelligence more valuable. We unlike filthy muck-wallowing animals are self-conscious rational beings with limitless potential to survive thrive and expand, even leave this planet if ew so chose, or alter it. Unlike animals, humans are infinitely gifted with potential as a whole.

It's people like you that make self-righteousness so thick with irony. We, unlike filthy muck-wallowing animals, are prone to fouling our own nests through the agency of limitless greed and shortsightedness. Unlike animals, humans are prone to self-destruction instead of seeking balance with their environment.

CCENSORSHIP! takin' a page from Bush's book

I'll get together with my fellow mankind and make a new one, or repair our current. You really think the climate change issue is too great for mankind to reverse or endure? What little faith you must have in yourself.

The topic is HUMANITY.

CENSORSHIP!

[Grave_n_idle]

No, it was emotional manipulation, mostly involving pride and hubris. Manipulation of emotion is a necessary skill for success.

No, it was off topic, and nonsensical.

The fact that it was also riddled with logical fallacies isn't a bonus - it just means it fails as a logical argument.

[I-Quarence]

My mom had the right at the time, but didn't go through.

But I'd still like to know how people can think that they can kill babies and experiment with human embryos all willy-nilly! These are people, not objects, diseases, disorders or experiments!

I, as well as other children, have a right to live my life and enjoy it! Why is it that you can deny others that right?

Because at the time at which you would have been aborted, you were not yet a baby and would not have been able to articulate this wish nor even known that you existed.
How can people expect a woman to have and raise a baby she doesn't want, can't afford, and may hate as a visible symbol of the violence perpetrated against her?

This is not just an issue of 'comfort'. I child is an economical responsiblity. I do not entirely agree with this, but it's well said.

[Grave_n_idle]

The topic is abortion.

CENSORSHIP!

Read the OP. If you're not interested in debating that topic, there are plenty of others, or you can start one of your own.

[UnhealthyTruthseeker]

Sure.

And when the human capacity to expand is governed by how much time and space is left in the universe, rather than by the requirement for resources, then we'll finally be approaching a point where that quibble matters.

That's not what I meant. What I meant is that potential is not something intrinsic to a point. It depends on the distribution of charges (the kind of charge depends on the kind of potential in question) throughout all space at a given point in time.

Analogously, human potential is not intrinsic to humans alone, but also depends upon local geography, resources, etc. This is one of the reasons that Jared Diamond concludes in "Guns, Germs, and Steel" that different cultures progressed at different rates.

[Justice for Mankind]

No, it was emotional manipulation, mostly involving pride and hubris. Manipulation of emotion is a necessary skill for success.

No, it was off topic, and nonsensical.

The fact that it was also riddled with logical fallacies isn't a bonus - it just means it fails as a logical argument.

No, Nope, definitely a bonus. Look how many people, Bush, Hitler, Stalin, and other people riddled with logical fallacies convinced.

[Muravyets]

Good thing your mother didn't have an abortion. It should only be allowed if the mothers life is in danger.

Thank you. That's the right thing to do. Anyways, I feel sorry for you Quotation Marks. I know you're not trying to have a pity party or anything, but life must've been tough.

And really people, why aren't they considered people? And why do we protect Eagle eggs better than HUMANS?

Because there are fewer of them. The world needs more eagles a shitload more than it needs more people.

Traitor to your race, you disgust me.

You think the world needs MORE people?

What's funnier is that he thinks eagles and humans are races.

[The Tofu Islands]

No, Nope, definitely a bonus. Look how many people, Bush, Hitler, Stalin, and other people riddled with logical fallacies convinced.

All that proves is that a lot of people don't care about logic.

Also, does it count as a Godwin if you compare yourself to Hitler?

[Grave_n_idle]

No, Nope, definitely a bonus. Look how many people, Bush, Hitler, Stalin, and other people riddled with logical fallacies convinced.

Bush, Hitler, and Stalin weren't frequenting a debate forum.

And, unless you're about to argue that logical fallacies somehow condone or condemn abortion, you're still way off-topic.

[Justice for Mankind]

Good thing your mother didn't have an abortion. It should only be allowed if the mothers life is in danger.

Thank you. That's the right thing to do. Anyways, I feel sorry for you Quotation Marks. I know you're not trying to have a pity party or anything, but life must've been tough.

And really people, why aren't they considered people? And why do we protect Eagle eggs better than HUMANS?

Because there are fewer of them. The world needs more eagles a shitload more than it needs more people.

Traitor to your race, you disgust me.

You think the world needs MORE people?

What's funnier is that he thinks eagles and humans are races.

I mean race in the sense of the word human race you retard. Ever heard that turn of phrase? I know what species are: 4.4GPA woot woot

[Ryadn]

It's people like you that make human intelligence more valuable. We unlike filthy muck-wallowing animals are self-conscious rational beings with limitless potential to survive thrive and expand, even leave this planet if ew so chose, or alter it. Unlike animals, humans are infinitely gifted with potential as a whole.

1) How many animals actually "wallow" in "muck"? Besides LG, I mean.

2) Why do you keep using "animal" like we aren't one?

3) You know that homo sapiens sapiens is not the only living species that is self-aware, right?

4) We are not infinitely "gifted", and our potential is not limitless. We're a lucky bounce in a cosmic dice game. There have been other lucky bounces---T-Rex comes to mind---and there will be others after us.