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What do you think about the ''Squatch"

They exist (specify)
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21%
They don't exist (specify)
73
59%
They used to exist (specify)
18
15%
I've seen one (tell us of your encounter and get mauled by responses that your lying)
6
5%
 
Total votes : 123

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Severania
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Postby Severania » Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:32 am

Thats a good point

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Postby Kohlastan » Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:35 am

Severania wrote:The Patterson Footage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOxuRIfFs0w) is one of the most controversial pieces of film ever. Honestly, with all the testing that proves it was a living animal, I believe this thing DID exist. I'm not saying they do now, but they DID. I believe so because Roger Patterson, the man who filmed this footage, wasted the rest of his life trying to find what he knew he saw. What's your opinion on bigfoot?


the patterson footage is peetty was compelling, except when i realized that the crearure in the film walks like a peron who is flatfooted and has cerepa pasely. i have videos of my gate bfore my corrective suguries, in which I basicly replicalicate bigfoot's gate. Also some 'muslce' bulges and the creacure's suposed brests are acully distortions that have occured though the process of coping the original copy of the film over and over in orer agin. Tne orinal copy pocessed by Mrs. Patterson show none of the distortion. ( sorry guys I could'tfind a link and I know it doesn't sound very creditable but my information is off a tv show,) However the cretues porpotions are that of ape, not a human.
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Postby Severania » Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:37 am

Kohlastan wrote:
Severania wrote:The Patterson Footage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOxuRIfFs0w) is one of the most controversial pieces of film ever. Honestly, with all the testing that proves it was a living animal, I believe this thing DID exist. I'm not saying they do now, but they DID. I believe so because Roger Patterson, the man who filmed this footage, wasted the rest of his life trying to find what he knew he saw. What's your opinion on bigfoot?


the patterson footage is peetty was compelling, except when i realized that the crearure in the film walks like a peron who is flatfooted and has cerepa pasely. i have videos of my gate bfore my corrective suguries, in which I basicly replicalicate bigfoot's gate. Also some 'muslce' bulges and the creacure's suposed brests are acully distortions that have occured though the process of coping the original copy of the film over and over in orer agin. Tne orinal copy pocessed by Mrs. Patterson show none of the distortion. ( sorry guys I could'tfind a link and I know it doesn't sound very creditable but my information is off a tv show,) However the cretues porpotions are that of ape, not a human.


I forgot to bring up the argument of the breasts! Oh, I guess they could be distorations though.

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Postby Tonyar » Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:43 am

They mentioned the breasts on the show that I saw, but I guess your point makes sense
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Postby Calixs » Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:52 am

Abatael wrote:I discount the existence of "Bigfoot," as there is no evidence supporting the survival of such a large, prehistoric, ape-like creature. The evidence that does exist points more towards a hoax, or delusion than to sightings of a genuine creature. In addition to the lack of evidence, the fact that "Bigfoot" is alleged to live in regions unusual for a large, nonhuman primate, id est, temperate latitudes in the northern hemisphere; all recognized nonhuman apes are found in the tropics of Africa, and Asia (although some smaller primates, such as Japanese macaques, are found in Asia up to the latitude of Northern California, and can cope with air temperatures to -4°F). Thus, as with other proposed mega-fauna cryptids, climate, and food supply issues would make such a creature's survival in reported habitats unlikely. Furthermore, great apes are not found in the fossil record in the Americas, and no "Bigfoot" remains have ever been found. Indeed, scientific consensus is that the breeding population of such an animal would be so large that it would account for many more purported sightings than currently occur, making the existence of such an animal an almost certain impossibility.

couldn't have said it better myself.

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Postby AiliailiA » Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:06 pm

Bigfoot remains should be easily recognized. Fossils, frozen or dehydrated corpses, skeletons, corpses? Any of these?
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Postby Aleckandor » Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:41 pm

UPDATE! Apparently nobody gives a shit about Bigfoot, so F**K HIM!
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Postby AiliailiA » Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:57 pm

Aleckandor wrote:UPDATE! Apparently nobody gives a shit about Bigfoot, so F**K HIM!


He subsists on the resources of our National Parks. Intimidating honest bears and frightening wolves. Luring credulous humans into the wilds where they lack the skills to survive. It's all take and no give with this Bigfoot fellow.

Bigfoot should get a job.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:58 pm

Wamitoria wrote:I believe that it's an elaborate hoax perpetuated by the History Channel to justify their complete lack of historical programming.

^This.
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Postby Haydenish People » Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:59 pm

Must this question really be answered?
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Postby Aleckandor » Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:00 pm

Ailiailia wrote:
Aleckandor wrote:UPDATE! Apparently nobody gives a shit about Bigfoot, so F**K HIM!


He subsists on the resources of our National Parks. Intimidating honest bears and frightening wolves. Luring credulous humans into the wilds where they lack the skills to survive. It's all take and no give with this Bigfoot fellow.

Bigfoot should get a job.


Bathroom attendant at Burger King should suffice.
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Postby Akkaga » Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:02 pm

wether they are alive today or not they once were its been recorded around early america and then all throught history in america
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Postby Bajireyn » Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:03 pm

Wamitoria wrote:I believe that it's an elaborate hoax perpetuated by the History Channel to justify their complete lack of historical programming.

This.

On the other hand,there is like a 99.99% chance of Manbearpig existing,I'm seareal!
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Postby Nordengrund » Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:03 pm

Bigfoot exists in my opinion, but he is probably a big hairy ape or a surviving neanderthal. The Native Americans also had sightings of the Dover Demon.
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Postby Bajireyn » Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:06 pm

Nordengrund wrote:Bigfoot exists in my opinion, but he is probably a big hairy ape or a surviving neanderthal. The Native Americans also had sightings of the Dover Demon Manbearpig .

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Postby Abatael » Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:06 pm

Akkaga wrote:wether they are alive today or not they once were its been recorded around early america and then all throught history in america


Yes, because fictitious records from tribes that have a history of fabricating myths to accommodate their ignorance, and lack of knowledge about natural phenomena, and the utter lack of any fossil indicia, or vestiges supports the fact that "Bigfoot" existed, right?
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Postby Vistulange » Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:06 pm

Okay, guys. I admit it. From the start, it was me. I made up the Bigfoot hoax by going back in time. It's a hoax, and all my fault. I'm sorry, NSG. It was me.

Sorry. So, so sorry.

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Postby North-East Ohio » Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:08 pm

I believe that there is a possibility that there is a large, possibly bipedal ape like creature living in northern and northwestern North America. Why do I believe this? There have been sightings and stories about these creatures since the Native American's have lived here. There is plenty of food for the animals, and there is plenty of hiding places for them. They are probably very shy creatures and tend to keep away from humans and our every expanding civilization. And when people say "Well how come we haven't found one or a skeleton?" well that is a good argument but you must remember, for a long time the Mountain Gorilla and Okapi where considered to be like a Bigfoot, that is non-existant. So yes I believe Bigfoot may exist but we won't know for sure until one is found alive.
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Postby Seshephe » Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:10 pm

There is a stunning lack of any evidence that is not extremely crappy.
Anecdotal evidence, blurry film and photos and wild conjectures just don't do much to convince me. Sorry.


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Postby Seshephe » Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:11 pm

Vistulange wrote:Okay, guys. I admit it. From the start, it was me. I made up the Bigfoot hoax by going back in time. It's a hoax, and all my fault. I'm sorry, NSG. It was me.

Sorry. So, so sorry.


^Still a more plausible explanation than Bigfoot actually being real.


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Postby Ordo Drakul » Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:13 pm

Gigantepithecus was certainly a known North American species. So far, on the Bigfoot plus side, we've got eyewitness reports dating at least as far back as the arrival of Europeans in the North American continent, photos, film, footprints, hair, feces, and even parasites in the feces that proved unknown to science prior to their discovery. While Bob Heironemous does claim to be the creature in the Patterson footage, wearing a suit made by Philip Morris of North Carolina (Robert W. Chambers was often credited with construction of the suit, but always denied it-Philip Morris does claim he made such a suit, but kept quiet under some sort of costumer/client privilege), my only problem with the confession is neither man can produce the suit nor one as convincing, an experiment the BBC failed at most recently.
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Postby Nude East Ireland » Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:15 pm

There is an easy explanation for this "Bigfoot".

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Postby Tekania » Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:17 pm

Nordengrund wrote:Bigfoot exists in my opinion, but he is probably a big hairy ape or a surviving neanderthal. The Native Americans also had sightings of the Dover Demon.


I've said it once, and I'll say it again.... payote.
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Postby Nordengrund » Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:17 pm

Nude East Ireland wrote:There is an easy explanation for this "Bigfoot".

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Postby Abatael » Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:18 pm

North-East Ohio wrote:I believe that there is a possibility that there is a large, possibly bipedal ape like creature living in northern and northwestern North America.


There is no possibility of this creature existing, or having ever existed in the Americas.

North-East Ohio wrote:There have been sightings and stories about these creatures since the Native American's have lived here.


Native Americans have a tendency of fabricating stories about things existing, such as a spirit that turns people into cannibals, and a witch that can transform into a number of animals.

North-East Ohio wrote:There is plenty of food for the animals,


There is, in fact, not. There is, actually, so little food that they cannot exist there.

North-East Ohio wrote:and there is plenty of hiding places for them.


Such as?

North-East Ohio wrote:They are probably very shy creatures and tend to keep away from humans and our every expanding civilization.


They probably are not, because they probably do not exist.

North-East Ohio wrote:And when people say "Well how come we haven't found one or a skeleton?" well that is a good argument but you must remember, for a long time the Mountain Gorilla and Okapi where considered to be like a Bigfoot, that is non-existant.


How are the Okapi, or gorillas relevant to the lack of fossil indicia?

North-East Ohio wrote:So yes I believe Bigfoot may exist but we won't know for sure until one is found alive.


We are all ready sure it does not exist.
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