Stance on Abortion?

[Monlyth]

I am talking about emotionality in law and that we should take emotions into consideration when we are talking about the law and morality.

Who said we shouldn't take emotion into consideration?

You previously posted to what's-his-name about making an argument driven by his emotions.

[The Darwinian People]

I am talking about emotionality in law and that we should take emotions into consideration when we are talking about the law and morality.

So if 67% of the population says abortion is ok and find it morally ok then abortion should be legal

Depends. If you're living in a democracy then; yes.

[Mavorpen]

Who said we shouldn't take emotion into consideration?

You previously posted to what's-his-name about making an argument driven by his emotions.

Exactly. Driven by emotions. It should be driven by logic and reasoning, and if there is an emotional side, present it. But basing and driving your argument mainly on emotion is silly and doesn't deserve to be taken seriously.

[Raeyh]

Terrible analogies. And there are precautions one can take to prevent pregnancy.

The only one that works is not having sex.

You pull over, stop the car, and turn the key the other way. You don't have to continue driving for nine months every time you turn the ignition.

But you do have to work for nine months to buy more gas.

OK, maybe gas isn't that expensive.

[Monlyth]

You previously posted to what's-his-name about making an argument driven by his emotions.

Exactly. Driven by emotions. It should be driven by logic and reasoning, and if there is an emotional side, present it. But basing and driving your argument mainly on emotion is silly and doesn't deserve to be taken seriously.

Didn't look at it that way before.

[Desperate Measures]

Is the fetus fearful of getting aborted? I missed the entire reason why this assault point is brought up. I tried to get it but I don't.

I think it's something to do with emotions having a bearing on the law or something something dark side.

Isn't it a question of who's (wait... is this where I use the word "whose"... "whoms?" I don't think I can use whoms...) emotions have a bearing, though? I don't think the fetus is afraid and I'm prepared to stand behind that position. So prepared.

[Hamste]

So if 67% of the population says abortion is ok and find it morally ok then abortion should be legal

Welcome to democracy.

I love democracy, except when it tells me I can't eat dead people. I mean come on they are dead, why let them be eaten by other creatures when family members can eat them. Anyways why do people keep whining about a thing that doesn't feel, has never felt, doesn't think and has never thought gets aborted?

[The Darwinian People]

You previously posted to what's-his-name about making an argument driven by his emotions.

Exactly. Driven by emotions. It should be driven by logic and reasoning, and if there is an emotional side, present it. But basing and driving your argument mainly on emotion is silly and doesn't deserve to be taken seriously.

Okay, I've got to be going (I'm off to see The Dark Knight rises, if I don't log back on then you know I've killed myself). I'll concede rather than leave the argument unresolved. You can decide which argument I am conceding to because I am not sure which ones are dead and which ones are still going.

[Altorum]

If you want to deny a woman her rights, congrats. All I'm saying is that you have no right to interfere with her choice.

[Goodclark]

pro-life

[Bokcha]

Welcome to democracy.

I love democracy, except when it tells me I can't eat dead people. I mean come on they are dead, why let them be eaten by other creatures when family members can eat them. Anyways why do people keep whining about a thing that doesn't feel, has never felt, doesn't think and has never thought gets aborted?

I am no longer going to argue, but I will answer questions and comment randomly.
They care (or at least I do, and I believe it is the reason many pro-lifers also care) is because the thing is a human being with the capacity to reason. The example I used earlier was a man in a coma.

[Desperate Measures]

Terrible analogies. And there are precautions one can take to prevent pregnancy.

The only one that works is not having sex.

Nothing has failed harder than abstinence programs. Got any other ideas for making people not do the mattress mambo?

[Hamste]

I love democracy, except when it tells me I can't eat dead people. I mean come on they are dead, why let them be eaten by other creatures when family members can eat them. Anyways why do people keep whining about a thing that doesn't feel, has never felt, doesn't think and has never thought gets aborted?

I am no longer going to argue, but I will answer questions and comment randomly.
They care (or at least I do, and I believe it is the reason many pro-lifers also care) is because the thing is a human being with the capacity to reason. The example I used earlier was a man in a coma.

That's just it, it doesn't have the capacity to reason and never has. If you wait long enough it will but until that point it isnot murder to kill it.

[Bokcha]

I am no longer going to argue, but I will answer questions and comment randomly.
They care (or at least I do, and I believe it is the reason many pro-lifers also care) is because the thing is a human being with the capacity to reason. The example I used earlier was a man in a coma.

That's just it, it doesn't have the capacity to reason and never has. If you wait long enough it will but until that point it isnot murder to kill it.

The argument I raised earlier, then, was "is it okay to kill unconscious people".

[Raeyh]

The only one that works is not having sex.

Nothing has failed harder than abstinence programs. Got any other ideas for making people not do the mattress mambo?

Abstinence programs have failed but that doesn't mean abstinence has failed. It's just a hard idea to sell.

[Bokcha]

The only one that works is not having sex.

Nothing has failed harder than abstinence programs. Got any other ideas for making people not do the mattress mambo?

Abstinence is foolproof. People are just too swayed by their impulse to actually do it.

[TheSurvived]

Pro-choice.
It's personal decision.

[Desperate Measures]

Nothing has failed harder than abstinence programs. Got any other ideas for making people not do the mattress mambo?

Abstinence programs have failed but that doesn't mean abstinence has failed. It's just a hard idea to sell.

Well, the best chance you have for making abortions non-existent is to get people to stop fucking.

[Mavorpen]

The argument I raised earlier, then, was "is it okay to kill unconscious people".

That's just it, it doesn't have the capacity to reason and never has. If you wait long enough it will but until that point it isnot murder to kill it.

Reading goes a long way.

[Natair]

That's rich. I'm not even gonna bother elaborating on that red herring.

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_induc ... tion.html/ You're saying that only people who can afford to keep the children should have sex. Sounds like discrimination to me.

Only people who can afford to provide for the kid or are willing to sacrifice their own comfort to provide enough for the kid to live should be parents. Otherwise EVERYONE is miserable.

[Hamste]

That's just it, it doesn't have the capacity to reason and never has. If you wait long enough it will but until that point it isnot murder to kill it.

The argument I raised earlier, then, was "is it okay to kill unconscious people".

But a person in a coma once has the capacity to reason, where as a fetus never had the capacity to reason. What is more the choice to pull the plug on the life support system is a person in a coma is the next of kin, the same thing should apply with fetuses the next of kin (the mother or father) should be able to choose to stop the life support system (the mother) from supporting the baby.

[Ifreann]

Nothing has failed harder than abstinence programs. Got any other ideas for making people not do the mattress mambo?

Abstinence programs have failed but that doesn't mean abstinence has failed. It's just a hard idea to sell.

Abstinence doesn't work either. Because, you know. Rape.

[Bokcha]

The argument I raised earlier, then, was "is it okay to kill unconscious people".

That's just it, it doesn't have the capacity to reason and never has. If you wait long enough it will but until that point it isnot murder to kill it.

Reading goes a long way.

I already said I'm done arguing with you, dear. Reading goes a long way.

[Desperate Measures]

Nothing has failed harder than abstinence programs. Got any other ideas for making people not do the mattress mambo?

Abstinence is foolproof. People are just too swayed by their impulse to actually do it.

I feel like you argued against abstinence for me.

[Mavorpen]

Nothing has failed harder than abstinence programs. Got any other ideas for making people not do the mattress mambo?

Abstinence is foolproof. People are just too swayed by their impulse to actually do it.

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