Stance on Abortion?

[Bokcha]

I didn't assume shit. The cum is still inside of you, even if it's wrapped up in a plastic bag.
If you consent to having cum in your vagina, you consent to the possibility of getting pregnant. End of story.

No, it's inside of the condom which is inside of you. You consent to the sperm being inside of the condom, nothing more.

Even you don't believe that there is no responsibility on the couple fucking. You're lying to yourself.

[The Darwinian People]

If you allowed the male to cum inside you (ie, "not pull out"), you invited it in. You try again.

Nice straw man. I never said anything about not using contraception or not in that post. You assumed I meant they weren't using contraception. Despite this, the woman still doesn't consent to the fetus.

And? If you willingly do something that could result in pregnancy what does it matter? It's like mating your two dogs and then killing the puppies because you 'didn't consent to having puppies in your house'.

[Raeyh]

I didn't assume shit. The cum is still inside of you, even if it's wrapped up in a plastic bag.
If you consent to having cum in your vagina, you consent to the possibility of getting pregnant. End of story.

People in submarines are technically drowning in your opinion?

Certainly. I would never get on one of those death traps.

[Mavorpen]

Even you don't believe that there is no responsibility on the couple fucking. You're lying to yourself.

No I'm not. That's why I think they should get an abortion. They're taking responsibility for an accident.

[Bokcha]

Even you don't believe that there is no responsibility on the couple fucking. You're lying to yourself.

No I'm not. That's why I think they should get an abortion. They're taking responsibility for an accident.

Taking responsibility would be raising it or giving it to someone else to raise, not murdering it.

[Mavorpen]

And? If you willingly do something that could result in pregnancy what does it matter? It's like mating your two dogs and then killing the puppies because you 'didn't consent to having puppies in your house'.

When did I say we should force mothers to have abortions? Go ahead, quote me.

[Desperate Measures]

Even you don't believe that there is no responsibility on the couple fucking. You're lying to yourself.

No I'm not. That's why I think they should get an abortion. They're taking responsibility for an accident.

And that should end the argument. But it won't.

[Bokcha]

No I'm not. That's why I think they should get an abortion. They're taking responsibility for an accident.

And that should end the argument. But it won't.

Because fucking and then killing your offspring is the pinnacle of responsibility, right?

[Farnhamia]

No I'm not. That's why I think they should get an abortion. They're taking responsibility for an accident.

And that should end the argument. But it won't.

It's Chinatown.

[Mavorpen]

Taking responsibility would be raising it or giving it to someone else to raise, not murdering it.

responsibility Pronunciation: /rɪˌspɒnsɪˈbɪlɪti/

Definition of responsibility
noun (plural responsibilities)
[mass noun]
1the state or fact of having a duty to deal with something or of having control over someone:
women bear children and take responsibility for childcare
2the state or fact of being accountable or to blame for something:
the group has claimed responsibility for a string of murders
[in singular] (responsibility to/towards) a moral obligation to behave correctly towards or in respect of:
individuals have a responsibility to control their behaviour
3the opportunity or ability to act independently and take decisions without authorization:
we expect individuals to take on more responsibility
[count noun] (often responsibilities) a thing which one is required to do as part of a job, role, or legal obligation:
he will take over the responsibilities of Overseas Director

According to Oxford dictionary, they are definitely taking responsibility.

[Divair]

No I'm not. That's why I think they should get an abortion. They're taking responsibility for an accident.

And that should end the argument. But it won't.

Because we're "killing the poor, poor embryos".

[Mavorpen]

And that should end the argument. But it won't.

Because fucking and then killing your offspring is the pinnacle of responsibility, right?

If you don't want it, and it's in your body without consent, then yes.

[Desperate Measures]

And that should end the argument. But it won't.

It's Chinatown.

You know I like it in Chinatown. I get all the cheap thrills here.

[Bokcha]

Taking responsibility would be raising it or giving it to someone else to raise, not murdering it.

responsibility Pronunciation: /rɪˌspɒnsɪˈbɪlɪti/

Definition of responsibility
noun (plural responsibilities)
[mass noun]
1the state or fact of having a duty to deal with something or of having control over someone:
women bear children and take responsibility for childcare
2the state or fact of being accountable or to blame for something:
the group has claimed responsibility for a string of murders
[in singular] (responsibility to/towards) a moral obligation to behave correctly towards or in respect of:
individuals have a responsibility to control their behaviour
3the opportunity or ability to act independently and take decisions without authorization:
we expect individuals to take on more responsibility
[count noun] (often responsibilities) a thing which one is required to do as part of a job, role, or legal obligation:
he will take over the responsibilities of Overseas Director

According to Oxford dictionary, they are definitely taking responsibility.

Ah. So using a dictionary is only okay if it supports your argument. Gotcha.

[Raeyh]

And that should end the argument. But it won't.

Because fucking and then killing your offspring is the pinnacle of responsibility, right?

That's going too far, I don't think anyone is considering having sex with the aborted fetuses. Plus that would probably kill them before the act occured.

[The Darwinian People]

And? If you willingly do something that could result in pregnancy what does it matter? It's like mating your two dogs and then killing the puppies because you 'didn't consent to having puppies in your house'.

When did I say we should force mothers to have abortions? Go ahead, quote me.

When did I imply that you said that? Your argument was that it's okay for a women to have an abortion because she 'didn't consent to having the foetus'. All I am saying is that it doesn't matter whether or not she consented, she did something knowing that pregnancy was a likely consequence.

[Farnhamia]

And that should end the argument. But it won't.

Because we're "killing the poor, poor embryos".

No, you're "killing the poor, poor children." That's the emotional appeal every anti-choice person makes.

[Bokcha]

Because fucking and then killing your offspring is the pinnacle of responsibility, right?

That's going too far, I don't think anyone is considering having sex with the aborted fetuses. Plus that would probably kill them before the act occured.

Wow. You read that wrong.

[Mavorpen]

Ah. So using a dictionary is only okay if it supports your argument. Gotcha.

Is there a biological definition for responsibility? Please, tell me what it is. It doesn't matter what you say, they are taking responsibility. Get over it.

[Bokcha]

Because fucking and then killing your offspring is the pinnacle of responsibility, right?

If you don't want it, and it's in your body without consent, then yes.

You are willingly putting sperm in your body. How is that without your consent? You can't pick and choose.

[The Darwinian People]

That's going too far, I don't think anyone is considering having sex with the aborted fetuses. Plus that would probably kill them before the act occured.

Wow. You read that wrong.

I think he was making a funny.

[Mavorpen]

When did I imply that you said that? Your argument was that it's okay for a women to have an abortion because she 'didn't consent to having the foetus'. All I am saying is that it doesn't matter whether or not she consented, she did something knowing that pregnancy was a likely consequence.

You made an analogy implying I believe that other people should make the choice for the mother, when I never hinted that.

[Desperate Measures]

No I'm not. That's why I think they should get an abortion. They're taking responsibility for an accident.

Taking responsibility would be raising it or giving it to someone else to raise, not murdering it.

And that is how you view your responsibility. I didn't ask you to define my sense of responsibility and I'd prefer you didn't. Killing does not equal murder.

[Mavorpen]

If you don't want it, and it's in your body without consent, then yes.

You are willingly putting sperm in your body. How is that without your consent? You can't pick and choose.

You are willingly driving. How is that without your consent? You can't pick and choose.

[Mavorpen]

No I'm not. That's why I think they should get an abortion. They're taking responsibility for an accident.

And that should end the argument. But it won't.

No, what should have ended it was Vlad's post proving that making abortion illegal does not work. But no, they always move the goal post and shift the topic.