Stance on Abortion?

[Ceannairceach]

Sure it is necassary for survival, gene survival.

Way to totally miss the point.

Way to totally ignore his.

[Samuraikoku]

I just said I have never engaged in sexual intercourse that could possibly produce a child. I didn't need to.

Makes me wonder what class of intercourse you've engaged in - if you've ever engaged in any -, but it's probably against PG-rules.

[Mavorpen]

This is highly debatable.

Last time my Uncle tried to parallel park.

Damn. Well, my Dad is like a magnet for random things that he can hit. Why just last week, this happened.

[Bokcha]

It isn't necessary for survival. And clearly it isn't helpful, because it creates children you want to get rid of. Moot point.

Neither is using the computer to be on NSG. Yet here you are.

But sex can improve your health.

The difference is that taxpayers aren't paying for my internet. I am. Also, my internet use is not killing unborn children.

[Raeyh]

Pro Tip: Not having sex won't rupture your internal organs. It isn't necessary for survival.

So we can give into our "savageness" if it helps us? You do know that sex is important, right?

You know what's important to me? Eating food that doesn't make me want to vomit. You know what I did after I found that I have high blood sugar? Only eat food that makes me want to vomit from then on.

Not getting your way is just a part of life.

[Mavorpen]

The difference is that taxpayers aren't paying for my internet. I am. Also, my internet use is not killing unborn children.

LOL! So it's about money. You don't care about the fetus, you just don't want to pay for it.

[Bokcha]

The difference is that taxpayers aren't paying for my internet. I am. Also, my internet use is not killing unborn children.

LOL! So it's about money. You don't care about the fetus, you just don't want to pay for it.

It's both. I feel uncomfortable being forced to kill children with my own money.

[Mavorpen]

You know what's important to me? Eating food that doesn't make me want to vomit. You know what I did after I found that I have high blood sugar? Only eat food that makes me want to vomit from then on.

Not getting your way is just a part of life.

So can I steal your oven?

[Desperate Measures]

Neither is using the computer to be on NSG. Yet here you are.

The difference is that taxpayers aren't paying for my internet. I am. Also, my internet use is not killing unborn children.

If your tax dollars were not going toward paying for abortion, what say would you say have over what a woman wants to do with her own reproductive system?

[Mavorpen]

LOL! So it's about money. You don't care about the fetus, you just don't want to pay for it.

It's both. I feel uncomfortable being forced to kill children with my own money.

Protip: They aren't children. Stop pretending like they are in any biological sense of the word.

[Bokcha]

It's both. I feel uncomfortable being forced to kill children with my own money.

Protip: They aren't children. Stop pretending like they are in any biological sense of the word.

The word "child" is applicable here. I have posted the definition twice. Not wanting to call if a child is your prerogative, but it is not incorrect. Get over it.

[Raeyh]

You know what's important to me? Eating food that doesn't make me want to vomit. You know what I did after I found that I have high blood sugar? Only eat food that makes me want to vomit from then on.

Not getting your way is just a part of life.

So can I steal your oven?

Feel free to. I don't own it, I just get access to it as part of my rent.

[Bokcha]

The difference is that taxpayers aren't paying for my internet. I am. Also, my internet use is not killing unborn children.

If your tax dollars were not going toward paying for abortion, what say would you say have over what a woman wants to do with her own reproductive system?

I would still think it was morally abominable and not want them to do it (unless they were raped or the birth would significantly harm them).

[Samuraikoku]

The word "child" is applicable here. I have posted the definition twice. Not wanting to call if a child is your prerogative, but it is not incorrect. Get over it.

Hypocrisy.

[Ifreann]

LOL! So it's about money. You don't care about the fetus, you just don't want to pay for it.

It's both. I feel uncomfortable being forced to kill children with my own money.

In that case, you'll have to stop spending money on anything ever. After all, if you go and buy a bar of chocolate, some of the money you pay could go to someone's wages which could be spent on an abortion.

[Bokcha]

The word "child" is applicable here. I have posted the definition twice. Not wanting to call if a child is your prerogative, but it is not incorrect. Get over it.

Hypocrisy.

How so? I already admitted fetuses were "technically" parasites, if that's what you're referring to.

[Bokcha]

It's both. I feel uncomfortable being forced to kill children with my own money.

In that case, you'll have to stop spending money on anything ever. After all, if you go and buy a bar of chocolate, some of the money you pay could go to someone's wages which could be spent on an abortion.

It's the direct payment, without my consent, that I have a problem with.

[Mavorpen]

Protip: They aren't children. Stop pretending like they are in any biological sense of the word.

The word "child" is applicable here. I have posted the definition twice. Not wanting to call if a child is your prerogative, but it is not incorrect. Get over it.

Biologically, a child (plural: children) is generally a human between the stages of birth and puberty. Some vernacular definitions of a child include the fetus, as being an unborn child.[1]

You're wrong. But then it says in some vernacular definitions, a fetus can be considered an unborn child. Let's see what the definition of that is.

A vernacular is the native language or native dialect of a specific population, as opposed to a language of wider communication that is a second language or foreign language to the population, such as a national language, standard language, or lingua franca.

So, vernacular definitions mean jack shit in this case.

[Ceannairceach]

In that case, you'll have to stop spending money on anything ever. After all, if you go and buy a bar of chocolate, some of the money you pay could go to someone's wages which could be spent on an abortion.

It's the direct payment, without my consent, that I have a problem with.

It isn't direct payment.

[Desperate Measures]

If your tax dollars were not going toward paying for abortion, what say would you say have over what a woman wants to do with her own reproductive system?

I would still think it was morally abominable and not want them to do it (unless they were raped or the birth would significantly harm them).

That's fine for you to feel that way but you are basically saying you'd have no real reason, besides how your tax dollars are spent, to force a woman to not have an abortion. Because that's all I really want to know.

[Bokcha]

The word "child" is applicable here. I have posted the definition twice. Not wanting to call if a child is your prerogative, but it is not incorrect. Get over it.

Biologically, a child (plural: children) is generally a human between the stages of birth and puberty. Some vernacular definitions of a child include the fetus, as being an unborn child.[1]

You're wrong. But then it says in some vernacular definitions, a fetus can be considered an unborn child. Let's see what the definition of that is.

A vernacular is the native language or native dialect of a specific population, as opposed to a language of wider communication that is a second language or foreign language to the population, such as a national language, standard language, or lingua franca.

So, vernacular definitions mean jack shit.

child
   [chahyld]
noun, plural chil·dren.
1.
a person between birth and full growth; a boy or girl: books for children.
2.
a son or daughter: All my children are married.
3.
a baby or infant.
4.
a human fetus.
5.
a childish person: He's such a child about money.

I can call it whatever I damn well please as long as it is proper English. As someone stated earlier, dictionaries are not philosophical authorities.

[Bokcha]

It's the direct payment, without my consent, that I have a problem with.

It isn't direct payment.

Paying to a government program that funds abortions sounds pretty direct to me.
Even if it wasn't it is still against my consent.

[Samuraikoku]

How so? I already admitted fetuses were "technically" parasites, if that's what you're referring to.

Thus your argument is hypocritical.

[Bokcha]

I would still think it was morally abominable and not want them to do it (unless they were raped or the birth would significantly harm them).

That's fine for you to feel that way but you are basically saying you'd have no real reason, besides how your tax dollars are spent, to force a woman to not have an abortion. Because that's all I really want to know.

I guess if you don't consider moral grounds a "real reason". Again, though, that's what all laws are founded on (see: the abolition of slavery).

[Mavorpen]

child
   [chahyld]
noun, plural chil·dren.
1.
a person between birth and full growth; a boy or girl: books for children.
2.
a son or daughter: All my children are married.
3.
a baby or infant.
4.
a human fetus.
5.
a childish person: He's such a child about money.

I can call it whatever I damn well please as long as it is proper English. As someone stated earlier, dictionaries are not philosophical authorities.

Of course you can call it a child. you'd be wrong. Also, massive facepalm at the dictionaries aren't philosophical authorities. The biological definition remedies that. It provides an objective definition that is factual and scientific, rather than based on a silly dictionary. And biologically, a child is a human between birth and puberty. That is a fact. So no, the fetus is not a child.