Stance on Abortion?

[Tlaceceyaya]

I am willing to die gruesomely to save the lives of the unborn rather than living and have them lose their right to live.

Why do you occasionally stop debating to restate that?

[Katganistan]

Perhaps you should instead have asked your geology teacher, who would have then explained plate tectonics.

He was explaining the formation of the American Continent and how people got here in the first place as the book required.

And he was ignorant of plate tectonics? It's in the 9th grade science curriculum. http://geology.com/teacher/plate-tectonics.shtml I'm sure it's also touched on in elementary and middle schools.

[Individualist Constructivism]

I am willing to die gruesomely to save the lives of the unborn rather than living and have them lose their right to live.

"I believe this very strongly" isn't an argument.

With respects, if the point of the debate was about belief, it is quite relevant.

[Nordengrund]

I am willing to die gruesomely to save the lives of the unborn rather than living and have them lose their right to live.

Then you are a fool -_-; A devoted fool, I'll give you that, but a fool, nevertheless.

I may be a fool (at least in the eyes of the leftists) but I would rather be a fool and stand up for what is right than be an intelligent person and do nothing.

Wouldn't a smart person stand up for what he/she believes in?

[Des-Bal]

And he was ignorant of plate tectonics? It's in the 9th grade science curriculum.

I know, I tried to explain that to him right up until he asked if I'd like to leave the room.

[Of the Free Socialist Territories]

Yeah, and us religious folk and pro- life people do not get as much representation in the government, so should they not be taxed?

Which United States of America do you live in? The real one is decidedly the opposite of that.

I may be a fool (at least in the eyes of the leftists) but I would rather be a fool and stand up for what is right than be an intelligent person and do nothing.

Wouldn't a smart person stand up for what he/she believes in?

Yes, but with facts instead of opinion, grandstanding statements about your willingness to die for foetuses and appeals to emotion.

[Galloism]

Nope, but is illegal to kill anything with a soul, and humans have souls.

Where in the law does it refer to souls? I'll wait.

FAA regulations refer to souls. That's sort of like law.

[Mavorpen]

Wouldn't a smart person stand up for what he/she believes in?

Not if it takes away the rights of others.

[Des-Bal]

I may be a fool (at least in the eyes of the leftists) but I would rather be a fool and stand up for what is right than be an intelligent person and do nothing.

Wouldn't a smart person stand up for what he/she believes in?

Right winger, right here. I have a semen soaked copy of Atlas Shrugged to prove it.

A smart person would think about their position a little bit harder and repeat it a little bit less.

[Nordengrund]

Wouldn't a smart person stand up for what he/she believes in?

Not if it takes away the rights of others.

Yes, but abortion takes away the rights of the fetus deserving a chance to live.

[The Orson Empire]

Wouldn't a smart person stand up for what he/she believes in?

Not if it takes away the rights of others.

I kind of agree with this statement. People do have the right to choose what they want to do.

[Mavorpen]

Not if it takes away the rights of others.

Yes, but abortion takes away the rights of the fetus deserving a chance to live.

No, it doesn't. The fetus has no such rights in the first place.

[Des-Bal]

With respects, if the point of the debate was about belief, it is quite relevant.

No it's not? Stating your position isn't an argument.

[Katganistan]

I am willing to die gruesomely to save the lives of the unborn rather than living and have them lose their right to live.

That sounds suspiciously like the attitude of a suicide bomber.

[The Orson Empire]

Not if it takes away the rights of others.

Yes, but abortion takes away the rights of the fetus deserving a chance to live.

But Nordengrund, I've been thinking over this. People do have the right to decide what they want to do with their body.

[Samuraikoku]

I figured it out, no worries.

The Emperor protects.

Make sure the Emperor also uses protection.

[Tlaceceyaya]

Not if it takes away the rights of others.

Yes, but abortion takes away the rights of the fetus deserving a chance to live.

Why does it get rights when someone who is fully developed doesn't?

[Of the Free Socialist Territories]

Yes, but abortion takes away the rights of the fetus deserving a chance to live.

But Nordengrund, I've been thinking over this. People do have the right to decide what they want to do with their body.

And as a foetus cannot decide for itself, it is surely the imperative of the mother to decide on its behalf.

[Saint Alexander]

Then you are a fool -_-; A devoted fool, I'll give you that, but a fool, nevertheless.

I may be a fool (at least in the eyes of the leftists) but I would rather be a fool and stand up for what is right than be an intelligent person and do nothing.

Wouldn't a smart person stand up for what he/she believes in?

No, an enlightened person looks at all sides of the argument THEN finds a way to mediate between the two sides. Unfortunately, seeing as how this little argument here has very little in the way of moral grey, then it would be best to take the side that benefits the most people and leave it at pro-choice. There are plenty of people who have children, and a truly enlightened person knows it is not in their right to say who or who should not abort a child.

[Samuraikoku]

I am willing to die gruesomely to save the lives of the unborn rather than living and have them lose their right to live.

You're a martyr.

[Mavorpen]

Make sure the Emperor also uses protection.

The only possible response.

[Katganistan]

Wouldn't a smart person stand up for what he/she believes in?

We do.

[Individualist Constructivism]

With respects, if the point of the debate was about belief, it is quite relevant.

No it's not? Stating your position isn't an argument.

It can be, but strictly if the point of the argument was position and the rightfulness thereof. It is also relevant as a correction if one debater believes they have been misrepresented, whether they have been or not.

(Not to mention with Abortion, it becomes, for better or for worse, the lead role in debate.)

[Anarchist States Of America]

Pro Life, normally, but when a woman is threatened with death, pro choice

[Samuraikoku]

Not if it takes away the rights of others.

Yes, but abortion takes away the rights of the fetus deserving a chance to live.

Fetuses have no rights.