Stance on Abortion?

[Samuraikoku]

If Lenin could see me now...

Mr Samurai is the reincarnation of Che Guevara. *nods*

It has been established that I was Pierre Terrail.

[Farnhamia]

I'm pro-life because I think the unborn should have a right to live

And what gives you the right to tell me what to do?

[Des-Bal]

I would rather be dead than have syphilis, herpes or whatever.

Really? Because you can cure syphilis, really easily. And herpes doesn't effect your life in any significant way provided you get treatment. Do you contemplate suicide when you get a paper cut?

[Genivaria]

I'm pro-life because I think the unborn should have a right to live

There's a contradiction there.

[Mavorpen]

The people of Kummen are largely pro-choice, but it is considered being pro-life, this has lead to some confusion among those who are not entirely familiar with Objectivist thought. Thus when dealing with the rest of the world, we try make it quite clear which side of this debate we're on.

You've been here since June of 2011 and you don't know that NSG is OOC?

[Farnhamia]

Mr Samurai is the reincarnation of Che Guevara. *nods*

It has been established that I was Pierre Terrail.

Le Chevalier lived long ago. It is possiblle to be the reincarnation of more than one person.

[Katganistan]

Because civilized societies generally are against the idea of forcing someone into using their body against their will

One would think you would have figured that out by now.

It still deserves the right to live. A woman aborts the baby and that baby never had a chance to experience life. That is justified?

Then there's no problem since they never existed to experience life.

[Nordengrund]

Cells are living things, a fetus is made of cells, therefore fetus is alive, which means it is murder to abort it, which means it is a human being, the Constitution says everyone is guaranteed life, liberty, and a pursuit of happiness, therefore the unborn baby is a living thing, a human being, and is guaranteed life under the Constitution.

Bullshit. Your liver is made of cells, therefore your liver is alive, therefore prohibition. Stop ignoring the "due process part" everyone ignores the due process part.

You are alive, and the liver is apart of you, so it is alive. The whole you is alive. If your fingernails were not alive, they would not grow, If those microbes that clean your eyelashes at night weren't alive, they would not be moving or cleaning off that gunk.

[Phing Phong]

Cells are living things, a fetus is made of cells, therefore fetus is alive, which means it is murder to abort it, which means it is a human being, the Constitution says everyone is guaranteed life, liberty, and a pursuit of happiness, therefore the unborn baby is a living thing, a human being, and is guaranteed life under the Constitution.

Cabbages are living things, a salad is made of cabbage, therefore a salad is alive, which means it is murder to consume it, which means it is a human being, the Constitution says everyone is guaranteed life, liberty, and a pursuit of happiness, therefore cabbage is a living thing, a human being, and is guaranteed life under the Constitution.

This logic is piss-poor.

[Farnhamia]

I would rather be dead than have syphilis, herpes or whatever.

Really? Because you can cure syphilis, really easily. And herpes doesn't effect your life in any significant way provided you get treatment. Do you contemplate suicide when you get a paper cut?

A paper cut? Absolutely.

[Samuraikoku]

It has been established that I was Pierre Terrail.

Le Chevalier lived long ago. It is possible to be the reincarnation of more than one person.

Please not Guevara.

[Farnhamia]

Le Chevalier lived long ago. It is possible to be the reincarnation of more than one person.

Please not Guevara.

But ... Mandy Patinkin plays you in the musical. And Antonio Banderas, I think.

[Samuraikoku]

You are alive, and the liver is apart of you, so it is alive. The whole you is alive. If your fingernails were not alive, they would not grow, If those microbes that clean your eyelashes at night weren't alive, they would not be moving or cleaning off that gunk.

My nails don't grow by themselves. My liver doesn't grow by itself.

Your brain doesn't work outside of your body.

[Des-Bal]

You are alive, and the liver is apart of you, so it is alive. The whole you is alive. If your fingernails were not alive, they would not grow, If those microbes that clean your eyelashes at night weren't alive, they would not be moving or cleaning off that gunk.

Exactly, so alcohol is murder.

[Samuraikoku]

Please not Guevara.

But ... Mandy Patinkin plays you in the musical. And Antonio Banderas, I think.

It's the second time Antonio Banderas gets referenced next to me. I sadly don't have that Latin charm.

I would look more like Paul McCartney.

[Alaje]

Russell's Teapot is BS....

Explain.

Oops, misread the post.....sry about that.

[Samuraikoku]

Explain.

Oops, misread the post.....sry about that.

Bazinga.

[Katganistan]

The woman chooses, not the man.

What if the man wants a child but the woman doesn't? They should both have a right to choose.

When he can carry it in his body, he can have it on his own.

[Indira]

This is my comeback:

It should be forbidden because America was not intended to be a democracy, but rather a republic.

America is a Constitutional Republic . . . NOT a Democracy

By Daneen G. Peterson, Ph.D.
Speech Given September 9, 2006 in Salt Lake City, Utah

How often have you heard people refer to America as a Democracy? When was the last time that you heard America referred to as a Republic? There is a very good reason that our Pledge of Allegiance refers to our country as a Republic and there is a very good reason that our Declaration of Independence and our constitution do not even mentioned the word "democracy".

Many people are under the false impression our form of government is a democracy, or representative democracy. This is of course completely untrue. The Founders were extremely knowledgeable about the issue of democracy and feared a democracy as much as a monarchy. They understood that the only entity that can take away the people's freedom is their own government, either by being too weak to protect them from external threats or by becoming too powerful and taking over every aspect of life.

They knew very well the meaning of the word "democracy", and the history of democracies; and they were deliberately doing everything in their power to prevent having a democracy.

In a Republic, the sovereignty resides with the people themselves. In a Republic, one may act on his own or through his representatives when he chooses to solve a problem. The people have no obligation to the government; instead, the government is a servant of the people, and obliged to its owner, We the People. Many politicians have lost sight of that fact.

A Constitutional Republic has some similarities to democracy in that it uses democratic processes to elect representatives and pass new laws, etc. The critical difference lies in the fact that a Constitutional Republic has a Constitution that limits the powers of the government. It also spells out how the government is structured, creating checks on its power and balancing power between the different branches.

The goal of a Constitutional Republic was to avoid the dangerous extreme of either tyranny or mobocracy but what exists in America today is a far cry from the Constitutional Republic our forefathers brought forth.

Today we have DO have a mobocracy occurring in our streets all across America. Sadly, such mobocracy or 'mob rule' was endorsed and encouraged by Sen. John McCain who praised the recent wave of pro-illegal immigration demonstrations by saying . . . "if the protesters hang tough they will succeed in forcing Congress to liberalize immigration laws. If such demonstrations continue, I think we will have a bill for the President to sign soon . . . The more debate, the more demonstrations, the more likely we will prevail.' He was of course referring to the Senate's massive illegal-alien amnesty bill S. 2611 which did in fact, pass. Was S. 2611 passed to appease the mob? If so, it is a perfect example of rule by mobocracy!

Article IV Section 4 of the Constitution states: "The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion . . .

Not only is our Constitution being ignored, the exact OPPOSITE is being encourage by John McCain and seconded by ALL those who voted for S. 2611 in the Senate. If you want to preserve the Constitutional Republic you should vote out of office . . . every single senator that voted for S. 2611.

Repeating something over and over doesn't give it any more credibility. Furthermore, a country can be both a democracy and a republic and whether you like it or not, it fit EXACTLY with what the founding fathers were after. (What happened to 'No taxation without representation?) And as this has nothing to do with the topic at hand, take it somewhere relevant

[Katganistan]

I'm still wondering why you fucked that sheep, and thought you could get away with it.

Knock it off.

[Seperates]

Bullshit. Your liver is made of cells, therefore your liver is alive, therefore prohibition. Stop ignoring the "due process part" everyone ignores the due process part.

You are alive, and the liver is apart of you, so it is alive. The whole you is alive. If your fingernails were not alive, they would not grow, If those microbes that clean your eyelashes at night weren't alive, they would not be moving or cleaning off that gunk.

Soo... you think the liver works when it is out of your body?

[Farnhamia]

But ... Mandy Patinkin plays you in the musical. And Antonio Banderas, I think.

It's the second time Antonio Banderas gets referenced next to me. I sadly don't have that Latin charm.

I would look more like Paul McCartney.

Hey, girls screamed and fainted over him, too.

[Raeyh]

I would rather be dead than have syphilis, herpes or whatever.

Really? Because you can cure syphilis, really easily.

If I spot it before I, you know, go insane.

And herpes doesn't effect your life in any significant way provided you get treatment. Do you contemplate suicide when you get a paper cut?

If I had an incurable paper cut, maybe.

[Seperates]

Really? Because you can cure syphilis, really easily.

If I spot it before I, you know, go insane.

I think you would notice the boils...

[Samuraikoku]

It's the second time Antonio Banderas gets referenced next to me. I sadly don't have that Latin charm.

I would look more like Paul McCartney.

Hey, girls screamed and fainted over him, too.

Sadly no one has done that in my case.