Fertilization of the egg actually occurs in the fallopian tubes.
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by Deus Malum » Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:00 pm

by Des-Bal » Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:02 pm
Raeyh wrote:Look at the word "abortion." You are stopping what is currently going on, right?
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by Deus Malum » Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:05 pm
Raeyh wrote:Farnhamia wrote:They accept most anyone with money. Of course, their doctors will want to decide if you're capable of conceiving.
There you go, our teenager doesn't have money so we are left with him having 0% potential of having children again.Sailsia wrote:I was mocking the usage of womb vs uterus but it might be construed as trolling so I retract that. But you still haven't set a line between [sperm] [egg] and [spermegg]. They are both not human, yet contain the same potential for becoming human.
The line that separates them is sex/insemination. Without that action, there is no chance for reproduction to occur.

by Deus Malum » Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:06 pm

by Des-Bal » Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:07 pm
Raeyh wrote:
What, do you mean like forcibly separate people who are dating so they don't impregnate each other? That would be equally wrong, unless one of them is a criminal, obviously.
Cekoviu wrote:DES-BAL: Introverted, blunt, focused, utilitarian. Hard to read; not verbose online or likely in real life. Places little emphasis on interpersonal relationships, particularly with online strangers for whom the investment would outweigh the returns.
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by Raeyh » Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:08 pm
Des-Bal wrote:
No by whacking off into a sock. There's no egg therefore no baby.

by Mavorpen » Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:09 pm

by Lakabi » Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:10 pm

by Globexanter » Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:11 pm

by Deus Malum » Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:12 pm
Raeyh wrote:Deus Malum wrote:Why? Do you have some crippling inability to use Google or Wikipedia?
All I found say that the tubes allow sperm to travel to the egg, which basically contradicts what you just said, but whatever.Des-Bal wrote:
No by whacking off into a sock. There's no egg therefore no baby.
There is no egg at all in that situation. You are not removing anything.
When an ovum is developing in an ovary, it is encapsulated in a sac known as an ovarian follicle. On maturity of the ovum, the follicle and the ovary's wall rupture, allowing the ovum to escape. The egg is caught by the fimbriated end and travels to the ampulla where typically the sperm are met and fertilization occurs; the fertilized ovum, now a zygote, travels towards the uterus aided by activity of tubal cilia and activity of the tubal muscle. After about five days the new embryo enters the uterine cavity and implants about a day later.
The release of a mature egg does not alternate between the two ovaries and seems to be random. After removal of an ovary, the remaining one produces an egg every month.

by Mavorpen » Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:12 pm
Globexanter wrote:I'm surprised this thread hasn't been locked yet, have the heated arguments not erupted yet?
Personally I'm pro-choice: Her body, Her choice. Answer to me with some "omg its murder" if you want to, but doing so shall be only a waste of your time.

by Farnhamia » Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:14 pm
Mavorpen wrote:Globexanter wrote:I'm surprised this thread hasn't been locked yet, have the heated arguments not erupted yet?
Personally I'm pro-choice: Her body, Her choice. Answer to me with some "omg its murder" if you want to, but doing so shall be only a waste of your time.
Everything currently being debated was addressed earlier in the thread. Some people just refuse to be wrong.

by Globexanter » Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:14 pm
Mavorpen wrote:Globexanter wrote:I'm surprised this thread hasn't been locked yet, have the heated arguments not erupted yet?
Personally I'm pro-choice: Her body, Her choice. Answer to me with some "omg its murder" if you want to, but doing so shall be only a waste of your time.
Everything currently being debated was addressed earlier in the thread. Some people just refuse to be wrong.

by Frisivisia » Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:16 pm

by Nordengrund » Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:29 pm

by Mavorpen » Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:30 pm
Nordengrund wrote:The nucleus of a cell is the center of the cell and is like the brain of the cell. Even if it is not a brain, it is a living organism. A baby (or fetus, or whatever you want to call it) is made up of a cluster of these cells. Since these cells are living things, the fetus itself is a living thing.

by Fascist Iberia » Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:30 pm

by Samuraikoku » Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:31 pm
Fascist Iberia wrote:Of course Not .
When the women is having a Sex relationship should take protections to avoid get pregnant .
So if they don't take protection it was is fault and he should carry the baby since the kid doesn't deserve to be aborted .

by Farnhamia » Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:32 pm
Fascist Iberia wrote:Of course Not .
When the women is having a Sex relationship should take protections to avoid get pregnant .
So if they don't take protection it was is fault and he should carry the baby since the kid doesn't deserve to be aborted .

by Nordengrund » Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:32 pm
Mavorpen wrote:Nordengrund wrote:The nucleus of a cell is the center of the cell and is like the brain of the cell. Even if it is not a brain, it is a living organism. A baby (or fetus, or whatever you want to call it) is made up of a cluster of these cells. Since these cells are living things, the fetus itself is a living thing.
So cancer cells are living and killing it is murder. Got it.

by Samuraikoku » Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:33 pm
Nordengrund wrote:Mavorpen wrote:
So cancer cells are living and killing it is murder. Got it.
Yes, cells can reproduce, dispose of waste, work, have irratibility, have respiration, and even die. Therefore a cell is alive.
As you say, the unborn bay (fetus, or whatever you want to call it) is made up a cluster of these cells. Because these cells are alive, the unborn baby itself is alive.

by Farnhamia » Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:34 pm
Nordengrund wrote:Mavorpen wrote:
So cancer cells are living and killing it is murder. Got it.
Yes, cells can reproduce, dispose of waste, work, have irratibility, have respiration, and even die. Therefore a cell is alive.
As you say, the unborn bay (fetus, or whatever you want to call it) is made up a cluster of these cells. Because these cells are alive, the unborn baby itself is alive.
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